By David Futrelle
It’s always a little strange to see self-described “involuntary celibates” — that is, guys who by their own admission are currently (and perhaps forever) unable to locate any women who want to fuck them — discussing sex as if they actually have first-hand knowledge about it.
But here are two dudes on the Braincels subreddit earnestly discussing what to them is a major sex controversy: should you bother to give women orgasms, assuming female orgasms even exist?
![AjitPaiFan1 Corinthians 7 1 point 17 days ago I don't care whether or not a BITCH gets her cumcums. That's the reality. The thing is, however, hoes talk about getting fucked amongst each other. If you fuck a bitch so hard she starts PISSING involuntarily and squirming like a sea creature (sometimes wrongly conflated with the transcendental male experience called "orgasm"), then every single one of her friends is going to hear about it and want in on the action. Considering the size of the social circle of the average female, making one of them cum opens up the opportunity for fucking dozens of other sheepish, millennial, STD ridden, bangin babes in a casual context. permalinkembedunsavereportgive goldreply [–]derpyderpderp42069[S] 1 point 17 days ago Or you could just fuck another girl whenever you want instead of being a beta cuck trying to please women. Jesus what's wrong with you cucks. "Maybe if I jump through these hoops and give some thot a super orgasm she will tell her friends and they will like me too teeheehee" Sheesh grow some self respect.](https://i0.wp.com/www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/ry7ctuf8vyig9uohjp.png?resize=580%2C615&ssl=1)
I really can’t imagine why women aren’t lining up to bed these fellows.
In conclusion, I have no idea why it worked, then borked, then worked again.
@feartheminotaur:
Huh. That’s icky as hell. Thanks for sharing.
Re board game groups, that’s a problem a lot of them have. My board games group is managing to stay an awesome place; I credit this to our policy of being openly and loudly SJW, which scares off the actually-boys.
kupo:
You may be right. But I don’t understand that, because I’ve always just cut and pasted from the address bar. And (at least for me!), youtube always redirects to https if you visit over http, so the URL I paste will presumably always be https. And I’m sure that has worked in the past!
For example, here’s hbomb’s latest, which I’m cut-and-pasting without change, and this is an https link. Let’s see what happens this time:
These actually look like typical MGTOW comments, rather than incel. Fine distinction, I know.
Funny how AjitPaiFan notes that women delight this “cumcum” thing, while asserting, in an obvious shit-talking move, that it’s not a real orgasm, because women just can’t do anything properly.
@Moggie and kupo – That rings a faint bell, dropping the “s” from the URL.
Let me try this video of “Baker Street” being played on a cucumber (because that’s what my brain is now mentally substituting for “cumcum” as a self-preservation mechanism)
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=L8xEYKadD5M
Edit: no worky 🙁
One more try with full youtube URL and no s:
That worked! Thanks kupo!
I don’t understand why youtube shortens the URL in the address bar to “m” instead of “www”. Maybe because I’m on mobile?
Yeah, m is mobile.
I’m heartened to discover that my enjoyment of Baker Street survives it being played on a cucumber. This blog is so educational.
@Buttercup
Mobile urls never embed, so if you’re using a phone/tablet you have to request the desktop site and post the nonsecure version of that.
At least that’s what worked for me.
@Jo
Yup. I think just about *all* the squirting porn I’ve seen has actually been urination, and lesbian or straight it seems like the girls always get there by being jackhammered. I’ve resigned to the fact that men who have had no real experience with women are going to absorb porn myths when even men who have had sex with plenty of women have absorbed them.
@Moggie – Gerry Rafferty’s music can withstand not only vegetables, but the donning of a trilby. I have immense respect for him.
Good music justifies any hat.
It’s a shame Barry Andrews never achieved the same level of success as Rafferty. After all, Rossmore Road is just round the corner from Baker Street (straight http link here):
I think @Jo nailed it with this:
I’ve mentioned it before, but Doug Ford, current Ontario PC leader, as mentioned he wants to do away with the updated sex ed curriculum. This is the alternative, Doug: a generation of young people educated to think that what they see on PornHub is what sex is.
@Dvärghundspossen
And this is made worse by 20-30 years of pop culture telling men that female orgasms are somehow some kind of mystical achievement that only the great artisans of lovemaking achieve (thinking Clerks here, primarily, but other sex comedies have touched on this trope like Revenge of the Nerds and American Pie).
Our culture really has some messed up attitudes towards sex in general and these clods latch onto them and burrow in like ticks to justify their overall assholery.
@Moggie – Yes, Barry Andrews deserves more recognition too.
I wonder if Baker Street and Rossmore Road are both located in Margaritaville?
Oh, the jackhammering. Luckily, eben though my guy also got his education through porn, he’s never done that. But we also talked a lot about sex and what we like (and still do). Although – in a targeted, short burst I’ve found it to be surprisingly good.
But we weren’t teenagers when we started having sex. We were adults and I believe that makes all the difference.
@Dvärghundspossen
It took me literally years – in fact, more than five – to talk the same guy into having quickies (because “but you don’t get anything out of it”. Dude, I told you like three months in that sometimes I just want to enjoy that you don’t hold back.) and through the fact that the world doesn’t end when I don’t have an orgasm and that, if I absolutely want one, I will make sure I have it.
Five years. And that’s in a country with relatively good sex-ed. And he still often feels guilty if I don’t get off.
Porn-based sex education is yet another area where men would benefit too (perhaps not quite as much as women, but who’s keeping score?) from the dismantling of a patriarchal system. I’ve heard older gay guys complain that younger men want to fuck in positions that may look good on camera, but aren’t particularly enjoyable. They’ve been learning from porn too. So it’s not just obstructing women’s pleasure, it’s portraying sex that is visually arresting, but not as satisfying as it could be for both parties.
Those who profess to champion men should be raising their voices against porn tropes that reduce men’s pleasure as well as women’s, helping boys learn to work with a partner (of whatever gender) to explore different approaches to sex in order to find the ones that work best for everyone’s pleasure. The chances of MRAs etc. doing that are essentially zero, of course.
Its really really unhealthy for men who cant have sex (not sexually succesful) to watch porn and treat that as what happens in real life.
Every time I speak to an incel/give advise, the first thing we work on is reducing the amount of porn they watch. Because it almost becomes as if they dont just watch it to get their rocks off , they do so they can obsess and fantacise over something so distant they cant get (sex)
@Jo
Another reason to oppose the patriarchy and the manosphere, they’re literally ruining porn for everyone.
Ok, time for some sex ed.
Squirting actually does come from the urethra, as the substance is stored in the bladder. But the fluid that women “squirt” is NOT urine, despite being manufactured by the kidneys, & stored in the bladder. It’s a completely unique fluid. It does have the same basic chemicals contained in urine (what else did you think the kidneys used to manufacture it?), but in radically different proportions.
The fluid does most closely resemble extremely dilute urine, plus female ejaculate that’s expressed from the Skene glands when the squirting happens. For most women, it has no color, scent, or taste. & even if a woman who can squirt reliably pees right before sex or masturbation, the kidneys work overtime during arousal in order to fill the bladder with that unique dilute fluid.
& I don’t know about you, but *I* certainly can’t recreate the high powered firehouse effect of porn squirting when *I* pee. It seems a lot more likely to me that such “squirting” isinstead the result of the powerful autonomic muscle contractions of the pelvic floor muscles caused by the female orgasm.
& for the record, male ejaculate also comes from the urethra, & even contains urea. Does that mean semen is piss? No.
I’m sorry if I came across as rude, most of it was aimed at ignorant incels. But I hope all of you value accurate information about the female body, & female sexuality. Lord knows it hasn’t been valued for most of human history, & I’m trying to change that a tiny bit.
@Kidvelociraptor
You’re speaking science to guys who think vaginas change shape and color based on how many penises have been in them and that women don’t really have orgasms. Might as well be explaining string theory to a toaster.
Does anyone else feel like Feministguy is trying to inject incel sad boner updates wherever he can?
Yeah, that’s clearly all he’s here to do.
Porn is great! But, like, fellas… Porn is to sex as HK action movies are to martial arts. The real stuff as a bare bones foundation but with the magic of acting and cinematography and editing and lighting and sound and graphical design and wires (well, a certain kinda porn has wires anyway) slapped on top. Becoming sexually active with only porn knowledge is like entering a wushu tournament cos you saw Ip Man a buncha times
@kupo
@Kidvelociraptor
Not to quibble with your excellent education on female ejaculation, but I most certainly can urinate with pressure when I’m doing it around something. And it’s not like mainstream porn isn’t known to use some movie magic with it’s ejaculations, male AND female, anyway. 😉
@dawnPurityseeker
My favorite is when you can just about see the shadow of the guy who’s throwing the whipped cream for the money shot. It’s like the guy with a bat on a stick in Plan Nine from Out Space. I mean, seriously, the dick’s on the left side of the screen. How is the whipped cream coming from the right?