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15 tweets about “weaponized vaginas” that may cause yours to sew itself shut

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By David Futrelle

A couple of years ago, some terrible person came up with the phrase “weaponized vagina” to refer to the alleged power of women to quickly and easily take down powerful men and make a ton of money in the process by falsely accusing them of rape or sexual harassment.

For some reason the phrase got into my head last night, and so I decided to see if anyone was still using it. The answer, of course, was yes.

So here are 15 tweets about “weaponized vaginas” that might cause yours, if you have one, to sew itself shut.

https://twitter.com/LoveToLead1/status/953980456558645248

https://twitter.com/RobertAlenGreen/status/944764529912795136

https://twitter.com/hazenoff/status/952881542875041792

https://twitter.com/RobertAlenGreen/status/943274294418735105

https://twitter.com/hazenoff/status/941999931673411584

https://twitter.com/PlebofKekistan/status/918284786174701568

https://twitter.com/MaestroAmedeo/status/979555631131693056

https://twitter.com/MAGA2020too/status/941122334743609345

https://twitter.com/LoveToLead1/status/925437438046212096

https://twitter.com/David__Kaino/status/954802581112532998

https://twitter.com/MAGA2020too/status/935861269231308806

Here’s a BONUS TWEET that’s more baffling than anything else:

https://twitter.com/corlearjbre/status/887732498935013377

As it turns out, those devious females can weaponize things other than vaginas:

From now on, I would like to propose that we ban all usage of the term “weaponized vagina” (including synonyms) except to refer to:

That Pokemon that looks like one

Liz Phair cover bands

Dolphin vaginas 

Duck vaginas

This gal’s vagina:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcYv3SkBlc4

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Z&T
Z&T
6 years ago

Katie Kitten,

My friends and I have some thoughts for you too. We’re having one of our business meetings, we do talk business, seriously, it’s not all drinking 😀 One idea is real estate and construction, I’m leery of this for safety!

Let alone freelance pharma sales.

We all at one point worked as engineers also, of course in regards to mfg. that’s gone. So we have to find or create new work. We got put out of work and have obscure skills.

Our Other Z here went into business, created a business, involved other people, her partners, one of these guys recently had a stroke. They’re liquidating that because it’s the best choice, so this man will have money, they decided this route, best all around, and best for the man who was sick. So she’s casting about for new things too.

Our Miss T here went into “the arts” and I’m thinking she might have some good ideas for you. But she’s a visual artist rather than music or clubs, is also at loose ends since her agent died 🙁

That’s more introverted work also, creating visual art, painting and drawing. You actually can make a great deal of money at this, I am intrigued. She knows all sorts of practical visual things, all types drawing, construction, mechanical, cartography.
And same as the rest of us, started with mechanical engineering.

Why can’t any of these people (including me) fix my car?
HA

Back to the serious, T here also was into the local music scene, was involved with a fairly well known musician, says it was “exhausting”. This was when she was mid 30s. “Felt Old”.

But there are work ideas here, that you may be interested in.

Booking agent. For musicians, actors, models. You might like this work. And you can get started right away, or start learning about it.

Think of all the lecherous men out there too. A PRO who is not a lecher – these really are the people who do well. Everyone knows they can trust them to be businesslike, talent and clients flock to them.

From what you say about your interests, KK, this might be interesting work for you to pursue.

Our Miss T here knows of these things, from being involved with these people in the past.

We here are working on our various business plans, much involves real estate and construction.

Some things that may translate for anything…..

I have enough (inherited) money to survive on. For now. It’s not a lot and I can’t be ripping through that. I have to try to think things through.

I do hope to do more investing and buying more real estate. I only have my own home and one other thing so far. We all are trying to work on this, I’m trying to get a part time job in a real estate office.

What may work for you too, or anyone, all types biz –
Learn the software they’re looking for. Look at jobs you may want, look at what they want – learn it on your own.

Quickbooks? What is this now? Is it like a Pillsbury quick bread?
This is on the list for all of us here to learn.

Spreadsheet what now?

But I’m going to learn!

My cousin had a good idea, since I’m so “school geared” I mentioned that maybe I should “take some classes” to brush up on the above, and have gotten used to using a Mac, do also need a new laptop –

Cousin said: Just get a new laptop and some of those “Windows For Dummies” books.

Good idea! Refresh on your own, which also means – learn on your own, new things too.

All of these basic skills apply to many jobs and it’s something anyone can get to work on right away.

We hear you, in any case, and are working at new things too.

Dormousing_it
Dormousing_it
6 years ago

@KatieKitten420:

First of all, be kind to yourself. Don’t “beat yourself up”. Please.

I have to say I can appreciate you position on certain kinds of recreational drugs. If something as pointless and corrosive as alcohol is perfectly legal almost everywhere, then why not weed?

Have you tried temp agencies? I eventually got my current permanent position as a result of a temp assignment.

Have you considered starting a legitimate business of your own? I don’t know what your aptitudes are, so I have no suggestions for you. I mean, in a sense, you ARE self-employed right now, just not legitimately. If your parents have been willing to support you and pretty much give you what you ask for, then maybe they could help you with start-up costs.

I know you’ve probably heard this before, but it’s easier to find a job when you HAVE a job. So, maybe take a McJob just to get yourself employed.

Also, I’ve read that there’s a shortage of certain types of skilled labor, such as heating/air conditioning techs, plumbers, machinists, etc. Apparently, young people just aren’t interested in this kind of work anymore. You would need to go to trade school, but it just might be worth your while.

Also, 34 is still young.

Dormousing_it
Dormousing_it
6 years ago

RE: My above post to KatieKitten. Sorry to anyone who finds the word ‘McJob’ patronizing. I’ve had many a McJob☺

Mish of the Catlady Ascendancy

@Gaebolga

The only cogent argument I’ve heard against legalizing all drugs is that users of harder drugs may end up becoming permanently incapacitated and therefore a drain on society, which falls under the category of “harming others” (financially, at least).

As you said, it’s a bit unconvincing – not least because it assumes that legality will lead to more people using the drugs in question, and then continuing to use them.
In any case, many users of harder drugs are already a drain on society, if we look at it from a purely functionalist perspective. But (speaking as a one-time heavy user of heroin), a lot of that drain stems from the illegality of the drug, the high cost of the drug, and the stigma surrounding it. Legalisation (or even decriminalisation) would not solve everything, but it would reduce some of the problems.

(everyone: I know there are multiple issues and questions in this debate. I’ve only focused on one of them)

epitome of incomprehensibility

@Horrorfan510 – Thanks for the recommendation!

@KatieKitten420 – I just want to add (I don’t think anyone’s said this yet) that your dealing network could be a source of possible job contacts. Use due caution, of course, but I wouldn’t dismiss it either.

…My cousin’s boyfriend used to be involved in illegal gang stuff and found an “legit” job in a recycling centre a similar way (also he’s a big guy, can lift heavy stuff, but his social skills and inventiveness also came in handy – he just got promoted a couple of weeks ago). Mind you, his previous circumstances are different, since some of the people he was connected to were causing real harm to others and he wanted to be out of there.

It’s all too easy to feel like a failure. I’m almost 30 and I feel like one sometimes for not being able to drive, living with my parents, and not being organized enough. (It helps me to think that individual things can be successes are failures, but the entirety of someone’s lived experience can’t be reduced to terms like that!)

amy
amy
6 years ago

@ thanks, ill watch or better yet read it.

@Jo I completely understand that its fake and i never seen one to be able to comment on its realism. you and EJ have already pointed it out but my point was the same that its messed up there is market for it and the victims are almost always female. Im not sure if other sexual orientation have this sadistic fetish but from what i read its mostly hetro male.

KatieKitten420
KatieKitten420
6 years ago

Thanks for the replies, everyone! I will be more specific when I get home in the middle of the night or morning whatever you want to call it. Everyone was informative but a few were particularly useful and I have a couple of follow-up questions to those people.

Axe, I’m definitely going to get back to you because that’s actually something I’ve been thinking about for like a decade. I honestly don’t know how much my naivete will affect my theories and conclusions about legalizing drugs but to me they feel long and well-thought-out and detailed so I’d like to know what you and others think.

Ohlmann
Ohlmann
6 years ago

Re: Mish, Gaebolga : I believe there is another real argument against liberalizing any drugs with heavy addiction. It’s that people can sometime take bad decisions because of a temporary condition, and once addicted, it’s hard to revert them. That may be paternalizing, but I don’t trust human *that* much.

There is however a lot of catchs that I am weary of with that argument. The biggest one to me is that most of the times, people don’t get addictions for the sake of it, but as a consequence of another problem in their life (poverty, racism, among other). It’s much more fruitful to act on the cause than the consequence.

Another one is that the argument is too easily useable for bigoted mean. I have already heard people use similar argument to ask for mandatory birth control / sterilization for gypsy and other group deemed undesirable. (yes, my family reunions often have that kind of fun …)

Yet another catch is, the problem of drug classification is that it’s a spectrum, and a lot of products can be enjoyed without a true addiction (alcohol come to mind, but I do remember that WW1 veterans who were treated with morphine didn’t exactly all became addicts). And, of course, politicians are likely to categorize drugs according to popular prejudices more than any actual danger. I am not a specialist in that, but I sort of remember that LSD is an example of something not actually all that dangerous even compared to tobacco.

(since I highly dislike organized crime, and how money made off sex workers and drugs gradually serve to pay for worse acts like human trafficking, the argument to legalize them to cut off as much of financial ressources as possible from thoses cartel is the one that convince me the most)

reggie, the neighbour's cat
reggie, the neighbour's cat
6 years ago

I don’t remember if there were weaponised vaginas in Robogeisha, but there was chainsaw mouth and acid breastmilk:

opposablethumbs
opposablethumbs
6 years ago

Legalise and regulate seems to me to be the most ethically defensible and consistent standpoint, as well as the best option in terms of actually reducing harm in real life. More countries should be taking a leaf out of Portugal’s book.

Cutting off resources to organised crime (not to mention raising those same resources for the state at the same time); making it safe for those who want help to ask for it, and for those able to offer help to offer it effectively; making drugs safer (I’m not saying safe; just safer than they otherwise would be) by regulating strength and purity so people can know what they’re taking and don’t have to risk it containing bleach or whatever; enabling the relatively powerless users and small dealers to escape the vicious cycle of criminalisation. What’s not to like, you would think.

I have a close relative (we don’t talk much! I wonder why ..) who is a consultant on a fairly regular basis to the police in a country that takes a 100% criminalisation approach and is pretty gun-happy (not the USA, as it happens!). From conversations with this relative (who has become a chief-of-police-was-a-guest-at-my-party kind of person in recent years) I am increasingly convinced that – as you might expect – the kingpins of organised crime and the top echelons of law enforcement, prisons etc. are equally invested in the whole war-against-drugs setup pretty much world-wide.

Also best luck wishes to KatieKitten420, I hope you are and stay safe and well and that the things you are working on are/get good or better.

KatieKitten420
KatieKitten420
6 years ago

In response to Axe, and for other people who have mentioned it to toss around, these are the basic outline of how I would legalize and regulate drugs. Obviously it would have to be much more fleshed-out to be in the real world but I don’t have the research capacity for that at my fingertips or in a short amount of time.

First, it would have to be its own entirely separate agency. Not attached to alcohol and firearms and tobacco Bureau or anything else. It would be subject to the FDA inappropriate ways of course but it would be staffed primarily with experts on science of biology chemistry biochemistry addiction psychology and more as I think about it. Plus people with years of experience as addicts, but who are intelligent, competent and capable now.

To be clear, since drugs are legal in this scenario you could be a functional addict and work here you would just have to be truly functional. For 2 and a half years at NYU and then Hunter I kept a hair under a 3.0 GPA and occasionally slightly above. The mean GPA of those 2 and 1/2 years would be something like 2.85. I started doing truly poorly because of psychological issues and my grandmother dying nothing to do with drugs.

I’d always been frivolous and slacker partier type. I studied as little as I possibly could to get grades I considered reasonable. I was one of those test well people who was too lazy to actually live up to those scores. (Which is honestly why I think there should be more criteria for places like especially with specialized high schools like Stuyvesant where I went in NYC.

Kids from poor education systems in poor neighborhoods(my mom works for the Board of Ed for 34 years. I saw 30 year old textbooks with no covers, teachers buying their own pencils and paper out of their pockets and even worse more ridiculous things in some of the poor districts)unsurprisingly these are also overwhelmingly the districts of mostly POC parts of Brooklyn in the Bronx, just don’t have the resources or anything remotely approaching them that I and my social peers took for granted. Sorry this turned into a rant about one of my pet peeves let’s get back on topic.

So I would be choosing from the most qualified of the people I listed the people with experience in addiction would also need other relevant skills such as Social Work licenses therapy and assorted things like that. Then we would start by doing all the studies on drugs that we’ve never been funded or allowed to do like to find out exactly how they affect people in what amount why do some people take them and get addicted and some don’t and tons more things.

I have so many more thoughts on this but I’m going to end with this. I feel like for this to be fair all drugs would have to be included. I personally have tried pretty much everything that exists once(except peyote which deeply disappoints me that’s on my bucket list but anyway) and for me meth cracked and angel dust I just don’t understand them. They are just incredibly unpleasant. They call these people tweakers for a reason. I’d watch these people because I’ve been exposed to them a lot more than the average person and they don’t even seem to be enjoying themselves the great majority of the time.

But since my premise is a grown mentally capable adult should be able to choose to do what they want with their own body, everything would be tested, have detailed dose information, information on every drug packet would tell which mixes with lead to bad interactions and which were bad for people with what diseases and what they actually did on each one.

I know this sounds cliche but as we’ve referenced I’m naive and I tried weed and I tried mushrooms and I tried ecstasy and all the PSA said that they would kill me and make me crazy and all this horrific stuff and nothing happened. So by the time I got to heroin, I was just like these people are full of shit, and that was the one that got me.

So if we were totally honest about the pleasant part and the horrible parts I think people who are well informed would make reasonable choices. Obviously drugs would be only for people over 21 and there would be a lot more rules if I actually had to research it and draw out a outline for a real world concept.

Axe I’m sorry I wrote a text wall I am really bad about that I couldn’t help myself but I hope this at least answers your questions. To everyone here I hope you have a lovely day! Sleepy time for Katie.

Surplus to Requirements, Observer of the Vast Blight-Wing Enstupidation
Surplus to Requirements, Observer of the Vast Blight-Wing Enstupidation
6 years ago

One issue with McJobs is, they don’t pay enough to get by on anymore, if they ever did. And for some people getting one would mean giving up something else (disability benefits, for example) that may actually pay better (depending on how many hours you get at the McJob).

We’re not just suffering from wage stagnation and a general labor surplus; there’s a definite shortage of entry-level career-track jobs, even for degreed graduates. By “entry-level” I mean requires zero prior experience and zero connections, just educational attainment, and by “career-track” I mean uses your skills, pays enough to get by on modestly (working class: can own and maintain a car, pay typical rents, cover food and utilities, and have some spending cash left over), and leads in a reasonable time to promotions with more responsibilities and more pay (lower middle class: enough to cover the mortgage on a starter home, at least with two breadwinners at this point in their careers).

But everything white-collar these days requires prior experience and/or being well-connected with existing industry insiders, and what’s left over has precarious hours, unpredictable pay (you might get next to nothing some months), and either inadequate pay or is hard physical work and typically dangerous to boot. Almost everything that’s still unionized is either dangerous manual labor or else public sector white collar work requiring prior experience and/or insider connections to land so much as an interview.

There’s a whole “lost generation” being left out of meaningful gainful employment because of this. And that’s going to have socio-political consequences; indeed, already is having.

Dvärghundspossen
6 years ago

Right wing politicians in Sweden always go on about how we need really really low-paid job in order for there to be more jobs so that more people could get employed at all. It’s a ridiculous argument because it’s not really better to have a job than to be unemployed if you can’t live on your salary. Also, it’s a mistake to think that everyone in a low-paid job can go on to a higher-paid one later on – society just doesn’t work like that.

I have a brother-in-law who works in a warehouse, and his girlfriend is a waitress. They have a pretty nice apartment, a little kid and another one on the way. They’re not living a luxury life but they’re doing fine. And I really think that’s the way it’s gotta be; even people with simple jobs should earn enough to be able to live a normal life without adding second jobs and basically work around the clock.

eli
eli
6 years ago

The other horrible part of the work world today is ‘on demand’ scheduling, determined according to ‘business needs.’ I have experienced this recently at a job where I had to give a range of hours that I was available to work. Some weeks, I’d be scheduled every second with overtime, sometimes only a couple of 3-4 hour shifts. But the schedules didn’t come down in advance, they would update from central computers and you could think you had Thursday off and make appointments to get stuff done or think you’d finally get a chance to catch up on laundry and then find yourself on the schedule and having to cancel everything.

I had to threaten to quit to get my manager to change my availability after my mother died a couple of months ago and I had a zillion new responsibilities dumped on my lap. But then if they don’t need me during that shorter availability, I don’t work. Sigh.

I don’t know how people with children or others that need their care manage with these kinds of jobs.

Surplus to Requirements, Observer of the Vast Blight-Wing Enstupidation
Surplus to Requirements, Observer of the Vast Blight-Wing Enstupidation
6 years ago

If they want that kind of flexible employing, then they should accept the natural corollary: they can control when they get labor, but not who. That is, they just post that they want x done on y at z p.m. and will pay $w for it, and someone shows up, is very quickly checked online for being qualified to do x, and does it.

So the employee-side experience is: you’ve got an hour free, got nothing to do, could use a bit of more spending cash, so you hit up the job site to see if anyone nearby wants some odd jobs done that hour that are within their competence.

Of course, that would have to either be just a way to get supplementary income, or else paired with a robust welfare state, universal healthcare including dental, drugs, and eyewear, portable benefits/retirement savings/other stuff, a significant minimum wage hike, and maybe a UBI.

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

With the era of the self driving car replacing delivery and taxi services fast approaching, UBI is going to be essential. Unfortunately, this issue is getting hand waved away in most places. In the past, technology has created new jobs to replace the old ones that technology made obsolete. But the past was the past and the technological advances are a lot bigger than they used to be. It should actually be a good thing that drudge work is more and more automated. With a UBI in place, it could free up humans to do more art, invention, and entrepreneurship. Talent won’t be wasted by poverty or fear of poverty. Sadly, capitalism will not allow this to happen until it gets to the point where joblessness creates enough political unrest to terrify the wealthy.

Gaebolga
Gaebolga
6 years ago

weirwoodtreehugger wrote:

Sadly, capitalism will not allow this to happen until it gets to the point where joblessness creates enough political unrest to terrify the wealthy.

Too true, and deeply depressing given how many people are likely to get hurt before the 1% get their heads out of their asses. Honestly, although I certainly understand that the “I’ve got mine, fuck you” attitude permeates capitalism, at heart I’ve never really gotten why people think that attitude is useful.

I mean, I get that there will be a number of generations of folks who will be able to thrive in that environment and then die a peaceful death from old age before it comes back to bite them in the ass, but the ass-biting is inevitable in the long run, when the ass-biting occurs is very hard to predict with much certainty, and said ass-biting has great potential to get really ugly for the “fuck you” crowd.

I’ve always had the suspicion that the 1% really just don’t think it could happen to them, rather than it being a rational playing of the odds.

Surplus to Requirements, Observer of the Vast Blight-Wing Enstupidation
Surplus to Requirements, Observer of the Vast Blight-Wing Enstupidation
6 years ago

The wealthy should already be terrified. Look what’s already happened: the shitty labor market has created enough political unrest to contribute heavily to a widely-documented “anti-establishment mood” during the 2016 election, which in turn led to, first, a near miss with Sanders and then to Trump being elected, while the “establishment” candidates of both parties did unusually poorly in the primary season, and none won the Republican primary or the general election. Trump then instituted, horror of horrors, tariffs, is getting the US into a trade war with China, and is causing major stock market volatility with his tweetstorms against, for example, his target-du-jour Amazon (while his son-in-law profits by insider trading).

The rich, by and large, wanted Clinton or Jeb Bush. When they got Trump, they said “well he wrote the Art of the Deal, we can work with this guy, at least it wasn’t Sanders” and started actually sighing with relief when they got a massive bundle of Republican tax cuts. Now they’re probably beginning to wish they could roll the clock back a couple of years and put every dollar on the Clinton campaign with no donations to Republicans.

The smarter among them will be starting to look at the bigger picture of why the electorate is increasingly disinterested in “mainstream” (read: bland, corporate, well-turned-out, weasel-wording, neoliberal warmongers who differ principally in whether they are socially progressive or socially conservative) candidates from either party and what sort of candidates might be accepted better by today’s voter, but still not too radical left (or right) for the rich’s own purposes. And that will almost certainly mean a Democrat from the Warren wing who supports things like UBI and portable benefits, though they wouldn’t want Warren herself, she’s too in favor of heavy bank regulation for their tastes.

But I think we’ll see more upheavals and breakdowns of the social situation before they eventually accept a “new new deal” compromise by supporting a latter-day FDR. It took a Great Depression for that to happen the last time, and it’s not gone quite that far yet this time.

DawnPurityseeker
DawnPurityseeker
6 years ago

Since we’re talking about the nature of drug addiction, I’m going to leave this here. It’s well worth the watch. (Actually all the In a Nutshell videos are well worth a watch.)

Gaebolga
Gaebolga
6 years ago

…perhaps it’s time to invest in pitchfork futures…

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

I’ve always agreed with the theory that the New Deal saved capitalism from itself. During the depression there was a growing communist movement. There was also a growing pro-fascism movement. The wealthy may have hated the New Deal but it stabilized the economy and improved conditions for working class (white) people and both the far left and the far right movements lost steam. People are happy to stay complacent as long as they can live in relative comfort. Every so often the wealthy forget this. That’s where we are now.

Surplus to Requirements, Observer of the Vast Blight-Wing Enstupidation
Surplus to Requirements, Observer of the Vast Blight-Wing Enstupidation
6 years ago

Yes, I do agree that it’s happening again. Trump himself isn’t precisely a fascist, it seems, though an awful lot of his followers indubitably are. Trump’s more of an opportunist, hollow of any apparent convictions or politics of his own (and thus, also, completely amoral, dangerous in his own way, and one heck of a loose cannon, particularly when you factor in his narcissism and poor impulse control — the latter is definitely not a trait you want in someone with access to the launch codes).

I worry that he, like von Hindenberg in Weimar Germany, might be paving the way for the real thing though.

The bellwether is the middle class. Things are heading toward trouble when the working class and other downtrodden races, classes, and groups become increasingly agitated and political. Trouble has arrived when a significant chunk of the middle class joins them. This is what history teaches. And the middle class is experiencing salary stagnation, skyrocketing housing costs (which hurt those with outstanding mortgage debt, as well as barring their children from affording a starter home, so they either stay with their parents or fall out of the middle class), and increasingly, climate change (it’s not the working class who own the beachfront properties that will flood first, and in Miami Beach have already begun to).

It was the middle class that by and large voted for Trump, the victorious nonestablishment candidate. That right there is the shot across the bow.

The next series of events isn’t hard to guess from available data.

First comes a new financial crisis. There’s a ton of unpayable debt strapped like dynamite to the pillars at the foundation of the economy, and only very low interest rates kept up since 2008 has kept these bombs laying dormant. Now the Fed is raising interest rates, which has lit the fuses. There will be another credit crunch and banking crisis soon.

Then the crisis gets far worse than 2008’s. The new Chinese petro-yuan initiative sounds the death knell for the dollar as world reserve currency. As long as the US could be assured of a market for treasuries abroad, they could get away with printing money (in modern parlance, “quantitative easing”) to keep liquidity in the markets during a credit crunch, as they did for a long while after ’08. That’s not going to work the next time. More QE will lead to the world dumping treasuries and snapping up yuan, and turning to China to trade for fuels. The glut of unwanted treasuries will cause hyperinflation — the same thing that clobbered Weimar Germany around the time of von Hindenberg’s rise.

Or, they can swallow in fear, forbear from QE, and permit a deflationary depression to unfold, like the one that started in 1929.

Either alternative leads to political unrest, increasingly from the middle class as well as the lower ones.

The rest is predictable because it happened before already, in the 1930s. On the one hand, the working class will rally to a significant degree behind a genuine leftist figure, quite possibly very far left. On the other, the middle class will by and large gather around a fascist who promises to rescue capitalism … for white middle class folk, by throwing every other group under the bus. The working class by then will have the numbers, so it will be how many of the white working class back the fascist that determines which one wins, unless another FDR is put forth who can rescue capitalism without going to Naziesque extremes.

One could argue that FDR actually followed much of the fascist economic program, while eschewing (most of) the fascist social program and the totalitarian dictatorship aspects. He put his foot down, regulated some markets heavily, and pretty soon was instituting rationing and significant aspects of a planned-but-capitalist economy, with the state working closely with certain private industries (the beginning of the military-industrial complex). He had his reasons, of course, in the form of World War II (whereas Hitler did all those things, and more, and then started World War II).

Importantly, though, FDR did not assume dictatorial powers (partly because the Supreme Court was a strong check on his powers), nor did he go very far with domestic ethnic violence (though, he did have Japanese-Americans herded into camps for the duration of the war) — though, one must wonder what might have happened if he had outlived the war. In its wisdom (which it sorely lacks in these modern times) Congress enacted term limits afterward with the intent that FDR be America’s last “President for life”.

The US came a lot closer than most people realize to becoming a fascist state: by many metrics, for the four years of its involvement in the war, it actually was one, but it relinquished that voluntarily afterward. Again, one must wonder if that would have remained the case had FDR lived much longer, or the Supreme Court been more compliant or less powerful as an institution.

I don’t recommend going that route again, for obvious reasons. If ever there was a slippery slope, that is one. What I do recommend though is clamping down on the banking sector and increasing government involvement in setting economic incentives more generally — ending the neoliberal “Washington consensus”). Also social spending, at the expense of military spending. A massive debt jubilee is necessary; that unpayable debt has to be discharged somehow, and it is not going to happen by being paid off, so the only choice is whether it happens in a controlled and managed manner or as a series of disastrous crashes. (Not doing that was the biggest mistake made in 2008, hoping to defer that a generation, and failing.) And of course the money must be squeezed out of politics. Public election funding, a total ban on private donations to political causes (bribery is not protected by the First Amendment!), and a shift to some form of proportional representation seem to be in order.

What FDR did may have been a kind of emergency resuscitation that kept things from completely collapsing while the unpayable debt defaults cleared away the anchor dragging on the economy. And it required a major and terrible war in order to work, and had other serious negative consequences such as the Japanese internment.

Now that nuclear weapons are widespread and far more numerous and powerful than in 1945, we cannot afford for any nuclear-armed nation to have to resort to the same method again.

Fruitloopsie
Fruitloopsie
6 years ago

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee
It’s true. I used my vagina assault weapon to efficiently spray my zombifying vagina goo all over a men’s rights conference. Now they’ve all become white knight mangina slaves.

This looks like a new book Chuck Tingle would write. ?

KatieKitten
Hey we seem to be a little similiar. I too live with my mom. We live with my grandma. I feel better now that I have a job and have a couple of people wanting to help me with my books. I hope to be even more independent in the future.

I’m so sorry that’s really disgusting of what your friend has went through and hope she’s doing better.

And about drugs I do believe we should have marijuana legal. Too many people especially people of color have went to jail but then guys (usually white dudes) don’t spend one day in jail for rape even with evidence. What’s up with that?

EJ (The Other One)
6 years ago

@Surplus to Requirements:
That was very interesting, thank you.

I’m not an economist, but it’s my understanding that heavy inflation will effectively function as a debt jubilee. Inflation wipes out savings, yes, but since your savings are someone else’s debt, inflation also massively reduces the burden of debt.

As such, if the scenario you mention of the petro-yuan causing the dollar to tumble comes true, will that result in an effective debt jubilee?

Surplus to Requirements, Observer of the Vast Blight-Wing Enstupidation
Surplus to Requirements, Observer of the Vast Blight-Wing Enstupidation
6 years ago

Yes, but with the nasty side effect of killing your savings (even money literally socked under your mattress would become worthless) unlike a more planned and organized one.