By David Futrelle
Doing this blog, I’m reminded again and again that the enemy of my enemy is not necessarily my friend. Indeed, oftentimes the enemy of my enemy is just as shitty as my enemy, if not more so.
Take, for example, the ongoing not-very-civil war between certain factions of the Men Going Their Own Way movement and the Alt-Right.
You may be surprised to hear there even is such a war. After all, there are plenty of MGTOWs who are flat-out racists and anti-Semites, many with views pretty much indistinguishable from those of your typical Alt-Nazi. Meanwhile, virulent misogyny is rife in the overwhelmingly male Alt-Right.
But it turns out that there are a good number of Alt-Nazis who take a very dim view of MGTOWs, and vice versa. The Nazis attack the white-woman-hating MGTOWs for not making white babies with nice white ladies, thus lowering the white birth rate and contributing to the dreaded GENOCIDE of the WHITE RACE. They also think that MGTOWs are sort of gay, definitely betas, and probably a tool of our Jewish overlords. Actually, they seem a bit fixated on the whole Jew thing.
MGTOWs, meanwhile, think the Nazis are basically “white knight nationalist” cucks in thrall to the power of white women’s hypnotizing vaginas.
So, naturally, they’ve all started making memes about it.
In the following four memes, Alt-Nazis plead their case, such as it is, against MGTOWs. (You can click on any of the pics below to see the memes full size, which makes some of them a heck of a lot more readable; it doesn’t, however, cause them to actually start to make sense. Oh, and in case you’re wondering, the cartoon in the first meme was not actually drawn by Ben Garrison.)
Remarkably, the MGTOW response memes I’ve seen are somehow even less coherent. They’re also really, really, really anti-Semitic.
Here’s the text of that last one, in case you want to be able to actually read it.
I’m not taking sides in this battle. I can only hope that both the Nazis and the MGTOWs go down in ignominious defeat.
Spent the last half an hour on the third Nazi one – can’t work out any possible universe where saying “I’m Glenn Quagmire in real life” isn’t a desperately depressing cry for help.
@Tabby Lavalamp
That is both hilarious and sad. I guess DIY alt-righters aren’t allowed.
What, the alt-Nazis? I’m shocked, shocked to find gambling in this establishment.
Iseult The Idle
Your “Let them fight” brought this to mind.
Half minute videos of rutting bucks with locked horns – sad but it’s masculine competitive aggression pushed to a logical extreme. Animals can’t help following their instincts, humans can.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUJoOSMF0IU
We can only hope for simultaneous sword thrusts through the belly and a quick death for both sides.
Although I must say the Nazis are considerably ahead in the meme war. What are the MGTOWs hoping to achieve with those cock-eyed pieces of garbage? Low production values and impossible to read at reasonable resolution, and the incomprehensible word-vomit does not reward the bother of enlarging them. The Nazi memes are at least to the point and legible.
A plague on both their houses.
The wrong kind of misogyny being a deal breaker among the Nazi-manosphere? Color me surprised. /s
Dormousing_it:
At this point, they’ve got enough silly slang to turn into nonsensical lyrics for Christmas music.
♫Chad cucks roasties on an open fire
Beta bux nipping at MGTOWs…♪
Jack!
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Jack’s back?
@Jack
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Jack!! We’ve missed you!!
Re: Nazis and MGTOWs, it’s hard to think of two groups more perfectly suited to pushing each other’s buttons. MGTOWs hate coercion, and Nazis hate breeding refuseniks. Have at it, boys!
It feels weird to agree with any of these idiots, but I have to side with Team MGTOW on this. Nazis talking to, associating with, or reproducing with women is A Very Bad Thing.
And the glorious return of Jaaaaaaaack!
It’s been a long (but fucking excellent) day for me–won best drag king at a local show–and this probably isn’t what I should be doing to unwind. But here I am!…and I am duly disappointed, as usual, by what humanity can get up to.
Or excuse as a half-baked excuse for a meme.
No new tune here, but have what I won to:
https://youtu.be/ABS-mlep5rY
@Handsome :Punkle Stan: Jack
Jack is back!
It is so good to see you again old friend.
Yay Jack!
And as for the rest, small wonder movements whose sole focus and impetus is hatred find it so easy to rip each other to shreds.
Oh… wow. Just wow. You’d think people who spend so much time on the internet would be better at making memes.
Again, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH!
While they may not know it, this is a race to the bottom that neither side can win 😀
I’ll cheer them on as they bury each other.
I hope they drag the other racists, misogynists and assorted other bigots into this fight and they all bleed each other dry,
than Globo-Homo-Matriarchy uprising can roll in with little resistance!
Wait…MGTOW is about not giving women legal and/or financial power over my life because feminists destroyed marriage with no fault divorce. It’s about maintaining my sovereignty from a gynocentric and misandric social and legal landscape. It’s realizing men built and maintained all upon the earth – not women. It’s about realizing men’s lives were trafficked and exploited in war for women’s and the state’s safety and welfare. It’s about recognizing how women and the state brainwash men into disposability for their own benefit. It’s about recognizing feminist colonization and appropriation of masculine achievements. There are MGTOW from all races. Why is the left so bent on denying whites identity and pride? The whole world wants to live in white cishet male dominated nations. Duh.
Hello.
What is a Persion ? Especially a historical one. Is this Xerxies ?
And i do not understand the second MGTOW meme. What is a 9-5 ? Some kind of law ?
And for the third MGTOW meme, wow. Never heard a nazi say this kind of stuff. Never heard nazi and alt-right advocate feminism in any form… The gap with the reality is so huge that it cracks Earth in two…
Have a nice day.
Ha, Alan, I was planning to post that link myself. It looks like a great cause, addressing some genuine issues that seriously affect men. I’d be delighted – ecstatic – if MRAs started talking seriously about that campaign and supporting it. Do I even need to look and see if they are?
I’m not saying the MGTOW don’t have their heart in racism and anti-semitism but the response to the alt-reich here looks like an uninspired “NO U R THE PUPPET” retort.
I notice the MGTOW response sees the alt-reich as enforcers of both feminism and conservative consumerism (both of which are seen as Jewish tools to oppress men), while the original accusation from alt-reich blames the existence of MGTOW on individualistic hedonistic entitlement – but not on feminism (both of which would be normally seen as Jewish tools to oppress white people). Hence, the alt-reich seems more reasonable here (and they communicate slightly better).
@occasional reader: In Western Europe, the racist, reactionary white, sorry, Right, often try to powder up their corpse of an ideology with feminist rhetoric, but ONLY to distance themselves from the terrible, terrible Islamist Muslims. They routinely do this while fighting tooth and nail against any and all progressive lawmaking aimed at bettering the lives of women or children. In most places, they also adopt a rhetorical fondness of the elderly, unemployed or sick, while supporting policies that undermine health care and any form of economic redistribution. And still, this is where they trawl for voters.
It’s your standard divide and conquer-strategy, really, but for some reason, people seem to forgive and forget, and continue voting for them.
@ jo
I really like what they’ve done with those statues. Reminds me of the Gormley stuff. I would post a picture but obviously it might be a bit triggering for some. I would though recommend anyone with the stomach for it check it out. It’s a great use of public art to make a point.
That refers to the stereotypic office hours, as stand-in for a full time job, as opposed to life style unemployment or marginal employment.
Often white nationalists claim they support gender equality, to get moral high ground over very conservative third world cultures. They never call it feminism, though, and when confronted with modern feminism they dismiss it as distraction at best and (((cultural sabotage))) at worst.
Jaaaaack