By David Futrelle
Doing this blog, I’m reminded again and again that the enemy of my enemy is not necessarily my friend. Indeed, oftentimes the enemy of my enemy is just as shitty as my enemy, if not more so.
Take, for example, the ongoing not-very-civil war between certain factions of the Men Going Their Own Way movement and the Alt-Right.
You may be surprised to hear there even is such a war. After all, there are plenty of MGTOWs who are flat-out racists and anti-Semites, many with views pretty much indistinguishable from those of your typical Alt-Nazi. Meanwhile, virulent misogyny is rife in the overwhelmingly male Alt-Right.
But it turns out that there are a good number of Alt-Nazis who take a very dim view of MGTOWs, and vice versa. The Nazis attack the white-woman-hating MGTOWs for not making white babies with nice white ladies, thus lowering the white birth rate and contributing to the dreaded GENOCIDE of the WHITE RACE. They also think that MGTOWs are sort of gay, definitely betas, and probably a tool of our Jewish overlords. Actually, they seem a bit fixated on the whole Jew thing.
MGTOWs, meanwhile, think the Nazis are basically “white knight nationalist” cucks in thrall to the power of white women’s hypnotizing vaginas.
So, naturally, they’ve all started making memes about it.
In the following four memes, Alt-Nazis plead their case, such as it is, against MGTOWs. (You can click on any of the pics below to see the memes full size, which makes some of them a heck of a lot more readable; it doesn’t, however, cause them to actually start to make sense. Oh, and in case you’re wondering, the cartoon in the first meme was not actually drawn by Ben Garrison.)
Remarkably, the MGTOW response memes I’ve seen are somehow even less coherent. They’re also really, really, really anti-Semitic.
Here’s the text of that last one, in case you want to be able to actually read it.
I’m not taking sides in this battle. I can only hope that both the Nazis and the MGTOWs go down in ignominious defeat.
But but… I love Sandman too. What does it…? Why is…? Is that Rarity? Nevermind.
The Sandman they’re talking about is a MGTOW YouTuber, FWIW, not the comics dude.
If you can’t read your meme aloud without pausing to take a breath, you need to scrap it and try again.
@David
Oh, thank goodness. Because otherwise totally out of left field. However, that is still a pony on his desk, and I would imagine that’s the LAST dude to ever enjoy anything with friendship or magic or pony ladies in it.
Lol. I thought that, too.
Then I remembered that there’s a MGTOW YouTuber who calls himself Sandman.
Neil Gaiman should sue
Did memes useda be fun? Can’t even remember anymore…
Ooh. I love it when these dudes start eating their own! This has the potential to be better than the time Jordan Owen and Davis Aurini broke up. There are fewer toy skulls, but more incomprehensible memes to make up for it.
http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/992/526/601.gif
Although, is it bad that I think the cartoon featuring the MGTOW ranting about roasties is mostly accurate? I hate to give any Nazis any credit for anything, but it did sum up MGTOW pretty well. If the woman said “nobody cares about your boner” instead of “sorry, not interested in virgin needs” and you took out the thing about the white race going extinct, it could be a feminist drawing. Although usually when feminists make cartoons lampooning the manosphere, the artwork is better. See A Voice for Pierre.
Yeah, Sandman’s an incredible feat of writing. What’s it have to do with MGTOWs?
Far from being Neil Gaiman… when these guys are creating these memes, does it never hit them that there’s better things to do with their lives? I mean, not even a little bit? I mean, our society now has a 99-100% literacy rate and this is what they do with it?
I’ve been to William Lyon Mackenzie’s House. I’ve seen the meme-makers of old. In a time when the printed word was at a premium, they had to make them count and Mackenzie made them count. These guys are no Mackenzie.
Do they not see the irony of portraying the Jews as playing both sides? Why am I even asking? Of course they don’t. They just use them as a tool to delegitimize anything or anybody they don’t agree with.
@Diego:
Remember that the original Nazis accused the Jews of running both communism and capitalism.
That second MGTOW propaganda image is so close to being laudable.
To the left, they’ve depicted a set of toxically masculine messages, to the right a set of capitalist ones. Both of these sets of messages are oppressive and harmful. They’ve depicted happiness as the rejection of both sets of harmful messages. They have correctly identified that both of these malevolent structures would collapse if men stop buying into them. So far, so good.
The problem is that they’ve identified these messages as coming from horrific caricatures of women and Jewish people respectively, rather than from toxic masculinity and capitalism.
So close.
I just love that word “Roastie”. I chuckle every time I see it. So what, if that’s what these fools think certain women’s labia resemble – IMO, roast beef is yum. I think these dudes are suffering from a classic case of sour grapes.
The 4th meme down…” Jewed-up”? How does one accomplish this? Is that what happened to Ivanka when she married Jared? I really don’t expect any answers.
They also think that MGTOWs are sort of gay, definitely betas, and probably a tool of our Jewish overlords. Actually, they seem a bit fixated on the whole Jew thing.
Shocking!
Also, seriously – is it just me, or are those images too wordy to be effective? (Yes, this is what I’m focusing on. Forgive me.)
@ Uly
Nope, it’s not just you.
But brevity is the soul of wit, so all their memes were destined to be interminable clusterfucks.
Sandman huh?[img]http://images.sequart.org/images/Corinth_collect.png[/img]
@dashapants
If I remember how toxic Bronies are, they think Spike represents them and he should be [BLEEP]ing Rarity.
*shudders*
This reminds me of one thing that stood out to me in the original Watchmen comics: one of the end-of-issue pieces is supposed to be an issue of the conspiracy rag The New Frontiersmen (which Rorschach is unsurprisingly a fan of), and it includes a rather racist and anti-Semitic political cartoon about how the good vigilante heroes are being kneecapped.
Problem was, artist Dave Gibbons couldn’t put enough Stylistic Suck into the cartoon to make it really true to life…
Manosphere and alt right memes and infographics are always way, way too wordy. Just as their YouTube videos always ramble on and on. Even if it weren’t for their terrible and hateful ideas, I wouldn’t have the patience to associate with any of these people.
Let them fight.
WWTH:
D’ya suppose it’s because they consider editing on par with wiping their butts–some sort of horrible oppression of white men by society, and they’ll show us?
But what about the memes?!?!!?
http://metro.co.uk/2017/06/12/alt-right-guy-shouts-but-what-about-the-memes-as-hes-kicked-out-of-rally-6703668/
Borderline on topic I guess; but anyway, next time some MRA is banging on about how it’s “men’s issues” and not misogyny that drives them, ask them if they’ve supported this cause for example…
https://www.projecteightyfour.com
*Warning for suicide discussion*
Migtoe Sandman probably calls himself that because his droning puts everyone to sleep.
Just like all righturd memes, migtoe OR Nazi.
Hello!? Rarity is a unicorn! Draw her (poorly) with a horn please!
Whoever loses we win! I feel no shame in seeing them tear each other apart.