By David Futrelle
So today I’d like to present the first post in what I hope will become a long-running series: MGTOWs Explain Sex.
Because who knows sex better than dudes who’ve loudly declared their independence from women but for some reason spend their every waking moment obsessing over them? Who better to turn to for advice on sex than straight dudes who hate women so thoroughly they center their very identity around this hatred?
As you read the first entry in this series, drawn from the Men Going Their Own Way subreddit, I think you’ll understand just how valuable their advice can be.
One commenter found that final sentence to be a little confusing. Happily, other commenters were able to explain its implications to him.
![Sumo94 9 points 2 months ago That last sentence is disheartening. So I should just be focusing on me busting a nut? permalinkembedsaveparentreportgive goldreply [â]LeykisP1 6 points 2 months ago Yes. permalinkembedsaveparentreportgive goldreply [â]UK_Garce 3 points 2 months ago Why else would you have sex? permalinkembedsaveparentreportgive goldreply [â]Sumo94 3 points 2 months ago To please her? permalinkembedsaveparentreportgive goldreply [â]wawakaka 5 points 2 months ago that's what i used to think...](https://i0.wp.com/www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/bust-e1521794676995.png?resize=580%2C612&ssl=1)
MGTOW sexmaster ZCnegan went on to urge his fellow MGTOWs to avoid eating soy foods. And ass.
![ZCnegan 2 points 2 months ago* ?? Do you remember when you are at the peak of your hormones in puberty? Or when you were at peak testosterone? You wouldnt see women as anything but sex objects. Thats your natural state of male sexuality. Similar to lions. It is modern society, estrogen foods, that makes men clingy. permalinkembedsaveparentreportgive goldreply [â]Sumo94 2 points 2 months ago Is that why eating ass is a thing now? What foods have estrogen? I feel like I have a lot of that bs permalinkembedsaveparentreportgive goldreply [â]ZCnegan 2 points 2 months ago in the sidebar of mgtow there is KETO. Google estrogen in foods. Remove soy, gluten, processed foods from your diet. Or just cut the head of the snake all together and go Keto.](https://i0.wp.com/www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/soy-e1521794963618.png?resize=580%2C725&ssl=1)
I hope all you men reading this are taking notes. Ladies, you don’t need to write anything down. All you need to do in order to do the sex properly is to lie there motionless until you are given further instructions (re screaming, talking dirty, etc) by the appropriate dude.
Mr Bad Hat blathered:
Iâma keep this for the next time my high school students ask me to explain âbegging the questionâ.
@Pretty Pink Punnani Princess
You know, thatâs always bothered me. Why are lions kings (or queens) of the jungle? IANAB, but I donât think Iâve ever seen David Attenborough crawling through dense foliage to find a lion. A tiger, maybe. Or some other big cat. But not lions. I could maybe be persuaded to call them Kings/Queens of the Savannah.
I could be wrong though.
The intersection between the sentences “sex is done by the male, the woman just takes it” and “women orgasm with rape” makes me feel ill and I sincerely hope the this dude goes his own way and never interacts with a woman again.
@Lucrece
You are not wrong. Lions are plains creatures. The king of the jungle thing came from19th century tales written by people who had never been to Africa, or were writing for people who thought Africa was all jungles.
Also, I think they like lions because the females do most of the work but the males get their choice of the kill the females made and then hang around doing nothing except running other males off.
@Ace
I can testify it does indeed require ridiculous amounts of self control (or alcohol). Interesting experience though.
@Oddly Didactic Troll Person
Weird. Never realised men can’t love men. Got a few friends I’d drop everything for. Die for – literally. Guess that’s just mild affection for the fuckwits then.
Nothing else to add – you’ve been expertly deconstructed to parts and the parts condemned as U/S – but a small observation on your nym, maybe? People who call themselves bad ass invariably … aren’t. Go increase your wrist diameter or peel a grape or something.
Okay. So…if I move or voluntarily, on my own, express pleasure with my mate, I am a slut or, at best, unnatural.
I am beginning to think that Lysistrata had the right idea, if we modify it a bit. No sex with any man who is a war mongering, sexist, violent, STUPID, woman hating, non-bathing, know-it-all, asshat. Not until they stop this idiocy, stop damaging everything and everyone around them, and come up with a better reason for their continued existence.
Please feel free to add any other qualifiers. I know that there must be many.
Doesn’t look good for sooo many of the testosterone laden darlings, does it? On the other hand, it does look good for the guys who see themselves and women as human first and whatever gender they identify as second. Kinda like the guy with whom I have shared a life and created a family for the last 46 years.
Hmmm…better get on this fast. The world is in serious trouble and doesn’t have heaps of time. And we might just change human history…weeding out the so-called alphas…having more fun with folk who see us as we really are…shouting our orgasmic pleasure to the skies together.
Since sex dolls can replace women according to these ass clowns, why don’t they just get a sex doll and shut the hell up already?
OK so as an amab (enby) person who is attracted to women (and being pan others) I really prefer (or even need) an active partner,
dominant or submissive if my partner is just laying there complete still its just not fun and something is probably very (like call an ambulance) wrong.
@MrBadAss
Is your name an homage to Roosh V by any chance?
Uh, have you read the OP? Or almost any other post on this blog since it was started? Hint: there’s not a whole lot of adoration happening.
I do remember that the idea that lion don’t hunt is an outdated idea too. The solitary one hunt (obviously …) and when in prides the males tend to serve two roles : warding off hyenas, and leading the hunt for the biggest prey. The first one being not terribly physically demanding most of the time, but rather important.
Since that was a long time ago that I did that whole biology thing, I might have mixed things.
Sometimes the males drive the antelope towards the females as part of the hunt (that roar ain’t just for showing off and posing – it’s a tool that kicks off the panicked flight reflex in most animals. The spook roar is the worst – you can’t tell where it’s coming from). Seen that in action myself.
“Lions do this” presented as concrete fact bugs me – lions are no more monolithic than people. No mammalian species is. Different prides have different ways of doing things. The line between innate actions and learned actions is rather blurry.
MOST mgtows nowadays are guys who are unable to date or get laid who are just ranting. My rule is never talk and engage in a discussion if you dont know what you are talking about, you will just look stupid.
As a guy who is a 24 year old virgin, I have and wont ever talk about sex and intimacy. I know nothing about it, will never know anything about it (porn is not exactly realistic and I stopped watching porn 2 years ago) so I wont pretend that I understand sex as it will make me sound like a flippin idiot
Where the heck do women get the idea that they can be good in bed? That they have any needs other than to please some guy? That they don’t like rape?
Where do all these ideas that oppose ZCnegan’s come from? It’s just bizarre that women should think they have any value other than to prop up some guy’s ego. Clearly, these ideas cannot come from any woman’s lived experience.
And yet . . . women (and some men) have been promulgating these LIES!!! for as long as women have existed.
It’s puzzling. And it looks like poor ZCnegan is just going to have to repeat his lecture series, Women Are Bad and Worthless: Trust Me, I Know, for a long time to come. Hang in there, Z!
@Otrame
You don’t just get lions in Africa đ Asiatic lions used to have quite a wide range. Still a few left in India. Some of that range included tropical forest.
That said, have a look at the etymology of “jungle”… it come from a Hindi word that basically means “wilderness”, which would include deserty places as well as what we’d describe as jungle.
OT:
So, in case y’all haven’t seen this: Michael Avenatti, the lawyer for Stephanie Clifford aka Stormy Daniels, has announced that a very special recording will be broadcast on 60 Minutes on Sunday, 25 March.
https://mobile.twitter.com/MichaelAvenatti/status/977015170231885825
There is a very real possibility that the world will run out of reaction gifs.
Women are so confused!
Stormy Daniels said this about her first liaison with Donald J. Trump, the most alpha of all the alphas in the entire effin’ jungle!
http://www.intouchweekly.com/posts/stormy-daniels-full-interview-151788
Ugh? Ugh! Why would she say that! She’s a porn star! Her business is to cater to men’s sexual fantasies! Why does she think she gets to have a negative opinion about the sexual attractiveness of Donald J. Trump!
ZCnegan certainly has his work cut out for him.
(whilst I think of it, forest didn’t always mean woodland, either. Just meant land under “forest law”, which was about hunting and game reserves and stuff. Language is messy, especially one so full of loan words as English)
@EJ
Thanks for that. I’m on pins & needles — can’t wait to see what happens!
@Pie
Second clause superfluous! All languages are in a state of flux. Which, may I say as an English teacher, is awesome!
Cool, forest – I wondered if there was a link to Spanish fuera/afuera (out/outside), and apparently there is: Latin foris (outside). (It’s just a quick search with no research, but this would be by way of forestis silva, wood/woods/woodland outside (outside/beyond the place where we live), with the actual woods bit coming not from the forestis but from the silva, like sylvan. Presumably at some point we forgot/didn’t care which was which*, dropped the silva and kept the forestis. And foris is also where we get “foreign” from.)
Yup, it certainly is đ
* like rhyming slang (well, not in the least like rhyming slang really. This is completely irrelevant. I just like the fact that rhyming slang works by dropping the bit that actually rhymes, leaving a word with no apparent connection whatsoever with the original meaning (like merchant = merchant banker = wanker; porkies = pork pies = lies; most of the other ones I’ve ever heard of are racist. Allegedly – allegedly – although rhyming slang is generally very little used these days there are still new terms coming into the lexicon – I have no idea if this word has any actual currency, but supposedly if you answer the door wearing your Baracks, it will be readily apparent that you have only just got out of bed …).
Not heard Baracks used, but rhyming slang is alive and well, though the domain of the elderly now, and still confusing visitors to Woolwich.
The reason they havenât gotten sex dolls to take with them when they go their own way is…1.) they have yet to actually GO anywhere and 2.) sex dolls are too expensive for the economically insecure/forgotten male MGTOWs.
Of course itâs the 2nd part that they blame everyone else for, instead of…you know…updating their skills for the current and future job market. Instead they whinge – because whatâs sexier than whinging AT the ladies about having to make actual effort or putting in the work to better themselves beyond the physical âdo you even lift broâ sense?
The MGTOW who thinks women âorgasm from rapeâ…should never be allowed near a woman, indefinitely. If I could contact his mother and tell him what her son writes on the Internet, as well as tell every woman in his vicinity for their safety they should avoid being alone with him for even 1 minute…I definitely would. And it wouldnât be âhe is bad at the sexâ, it would be more like âyour son feels that raping women is an acceptable thing that women desire to have happen to themâ.
I canât even with the whole âlie there passivelyâ though. Good lord can they go their own way, finally?!
The most convoluted rhyming slang I know is ‘kettle’ for ‘watch’.
Kettle and hob > fob > fob watch
There’s also of course ‘Berk’. That’s a very innocuous epithet these days; but it’s from ‘Berkley Hunt’, and you can figure out yourselves what that rhymes with.
Or, to rephrase yon dolt from the other day:
Birds white when they jimmy.
Even male lions do not always have it their way. Lionesses have been known to gang up on the males and beat the shit out of them.