By David Futrelle
A quick question for all of you.
When you see a woman wearing artfully distressed jeans with holes in them, what’s the first thing that pops into your head?
- “Those are cute. I wonder where she got them?”
- “It’s weird how long ripped jeans have managed to stay in fashion.”
- “I hope her knees aren’t cold!”
- Something horrible about rape.
This dude posting on the Men Going Their Own way subreddit not only chose #4; he also, for some reason, felt obliged to share his reaction with his fellow MGTOWs.
![jerseymayan 11 points 1 month ago Whenever I see women wear ripped up clothes like that, I assume she has a rape fantasy. From her subconcious, it's not only about showing skin but having a Man rip her clothes off to get her "off." permalinkembedunsavereportgive goldreply [–]GemStarCN21 8 points 1 month ago Excellent analysis, I never thought of it like that.](https://i0.wp.com/www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/fant-e1521406587476.png?resize=580%2C388&ssl=1)
To be fair, it’s not clear to me if Mr. Jerseymayan thinks that ripped-clothes-wearing women actually want to be raped, for real, or if they simply fantasize about it, as many people of assorted genders do. What does seem certain to me is if your first reaction to seeing a woman with holes in her pants is to think about her being raped, there is something very wrong with you.
#3, definitely. Also #2.
Interesting. I always thought that the message being sent by distressed denim was “this is an old and worn garment, which I will continue to wear until it falls apart, either because I’m genuinely poor or because I wish to let you know that I give zero fucks about your ideas of respectable dress”. But now I see that I was wrong, and that ripped jeans mean “I have been attacked by someone who required urgent access to my knees”. Thanks, MGTOW fashion writers!
For me, it’s a #3. But then I see women as fellow human beings, not objects, and I see their clothes and imagine what it might be like to wear them, not assume that it’s a performance for my delectation and delight.
@Moggie
Thank you. That has genuinely tickled me. No clue why.
@Moggie
Same. I’ve worn distressed jeans and liked them for the worn-in look and sometimes for the artistry of the placement of the distress marks. Never once have I thought of rape. Or sex. Or anything other than clothing myself.
That’s interesting, because whenever I see a man wearing a tie, I assume he subconsciously wants to be strung up from the nearest lamppost.
3, I think 3. It might be my age 🙂
@Jo – to be fair whenever I find myself needing to wear a tie, I generally do think that being strung up from the nearest lamp post is probably preferable. 🙂
Ripped jeans are also worn by men. I wonder if he thinks that men who wear ripped jeans also secretly want to be raped? In the same vein, we could say they secretly want to be very, very poor because poor people are frequently forced to wear damaged clothing (I do so and I’m not that poor). Or maybe, making sweeping judgements on a person likes or dislike based only on one relatively popular fashion choice is extremely stupid, but that’s probably not the correct answer.
/sarcasm
But if a woman wrote something like “whenever I see a man wearing a nice suit or driving an expensive car, I assume that on a subconscious level, he wants to marry a golddigger who will divorce him and take all his money” then they would be all up in arms about how evil women are.
Time of death 5:35 PM (GTM -5)
I wonder if these guys just sit around thinking of the most absurd scenarios just to see which Goofus is going to chime in with “Excellent analysis, I never thought of it like that”?
I once saw a woman wearing jeans with neat holes over the knees which she had carefully hemmed, thus ruining the distressed look entirely.
What would jerseymayan make of that, I wonder?
If someone with the time and inclination wanted to, they could create a Wiki about the topics MGTOWs don’t know anything about. It would go to thousands of pages and basically replicate Wikipedia, so I guess we already have it. Wikipedia. It’s basically Wikipedia.
This is what passes for “analysis” in MGTOW world. “Excellent” no less…
Mexican Hot Chocolate,
It would be far easier to create a wiki of topics they are knowledgeable on.
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Put me in camp #2.
Definitely #3, because rheumatism. And I’m old enough to wonder how the distressed look is still A Thing, too.
And yeah. Do they think a dude with rips in the ass of his jeans is secretly Asking For It, too? Or do they just assume, as I do, that he got dragged by his own skateboard?
PS: My pute’s in for repairs, hence the sock.
I always just think it’s the one part of grunge fashion that never went out of style.
Probably #2. Though, to be fair, there are cases where the rips are taken to extremes, and the jeans are nothing but strategically-placed tatters of denim held together with frayed thread. This is rare, however.
Mostly 2 and a bit of 3, 3 cause, there’s no covering there, cold days and stuff.
I often wonder what ridiculous price they paid for those pants.
@EJ
She wants someone to attack her knees, but very neatly?
@weirwoodtreehugger
My initial thought was, “how could you have a wiki that’s a physical book?” Then I realised… that’s what an encyclopaedia is.
Back in the day (the 1980’s day) I tended to wear worn-out jeans and help the worn areas tear by picking at and de-threading them while sitting in class bored. I had no idea that I was actually fantasizing about being raped instead of daydreaming about meeting the members of my favorite bands and becoming their roadie, or having Scotty beam me up and going on an adventure in space and time, or the latest story I was writing. I’m glad this asshat came along and mansplained to me what I really was thinking about, or I never would have known.
3, then 2, with a splash of nostalgia for punk fashion. It wasn’t pretty, but it sure was fun.