By David Futrelle
So the Daily Stormer, everyone’s favorite “funny” neo-Nazi shit site, has weighed in on International Women’s Day. In a post (archived here) ostensibly covering the massive Women’s Day strikes in Spain, but which is actually just an excuse to talk shit, DS contributor “Roy Batty” declares that “[w]omen have been really fucking up in the West.”
“Batty” offers a nice long list of the terrible things (and allegedly terrible things) that he thinks women have foisted on Western countries.
[H]ere are some of the benefits that brave, stronk and empowered wimmins have brought to our societies:
college false rape allegations
mass migration from shithole countries
divorce rape
school shooters
fines for not wearing bicycle helmets
consumerism
wages cut in half
herpes
fat acceptance
speech codesSo thanks, ladies?
Damn these dastardly women and their herpes-infused bicycle helmets!
No, but seriously, I can’t even talk to Western women anymore. So I’m not going to be wishing them a Happy Women’s Day. Because they’ve squandered any goodwill I could have felt towards them.
Here’s to replacing this squandered holiday with White Sharia day in the West very, very soon.
“White sharia” is alt-right slang for white dudes having total patriarchal control of “their” women in a future white supremacist ethnostate.
“Batty” would also like to have a couple of other holidays added to the calendar.
If we’re going to have International Woman’s Day though, there should also be an “International Burn a Witch Day” and “International Shame a THOT Day.”
It’s only fair that we reward AND punish.
Huh. These proposed holidays sound more than a little bit like MRA deadbeat grandaddy Paul Elam’s infamous “Bash a Violent Bitch Month.” Maybe the Daily Stormer got the idea from him? Or maybe it’s just that terrible minds think alike — and that these terrible minds love to think of allegedly uppity women getting taken down a peg or two.
Hey, I can play this game, too.
Happy International MRAs and Nazis Eat Shit Day!
Just wondering – is this the same category of statistical analysis as that which links smoking and cancer, or ACC with extreme weather events? I mean, as in “no, in practice we can never say this specific cigarette caused this specific cancerous change, or this specific weather event is caused by ACC, but we sure as hell can say that cigarettes significantly worsen the odds of any one person getting cancer, and ACC significantly worsens the odds of any one region suffering an extreme weather event, to the point of demonstrating an effectively certain causal connection”, something like that?
The simplified version of Russian history I was taught included the detail that the Russian Empire had very few Jews until Catherine the Great’s Partition of Poland. Greater Poland had had a significant Jewish population for centuries (for various interesting historical reasons) and suddenly a lot of them were living in Russia. The Russian imperial government elite generally did not perceive this as a good thing.
Robert,
I believe this is not correct what they taught you. Jews lived in Ukraine for many years, when Russian empire controlled more of Ukraine, “russian” jews became more, very big increase in numbers, also increased how many polish people lives under Russian empire. Secondly, many “polish” jews lived in Ukrainian lands. for example in Lviv. they only called them polish because of historical polish control in those areas. Jewish history is russian and Ukrainian history, but looks like they try to hide it.
@Kupo
This. This is pretty much the entire rationale for all the pushback around consent. “I know your boundaries, but I intend to break them to get my dick wet, because that’s all that matters to me.” It’s always the subtext of any “well what about if we’re both drunk and she’s tipsy, but not blacking out and it’s a full moon on a Tuesday blah blah blah” excuse-making I’ve seen in online discussions of the topic, as if it’s some kind of transaction being bartered. And I just wish I could break into the conversation and say: Here’s a nutty idea: how about you respect your sexual partner enough to consider not only her pleasure (a stretch for these guys, I’m sure) but also the aftermath of the interaction? Because while society has conditioned men to be proud of their “conquests,” women do not get that kind of social validation, so mayyyyybe she’s well within her rights to regret the encounter if she’s had her boundaries tested.
Ah, but what’s the point of talking about that stuff? Doug Ford’s gonna do away with updated sex ed curriculum anyway and let the parents do all the teaching about sexual politics, gender identity, consent and the fantasy aspects of pornography because an overworked single parent is totally equipped to handle those topics, right?
*sigh* This province is so very screwed….
Oh and Tillerson’s out. Yayyyyy….
I *think* I’m happy about this? I mean, I’m always happy to see a Republican cry, and it hastens the collapse of the Trump administration, but if Pompeo gets the job then it puts the White House even further in the grip of the security establishment.
As awful as Tillerson is, he constituted what passes for a moderating influence in the Trump WH.
I think the move to fire him and put in Pompeo is a step towards war with North Korea. He’s made some frightening saber rattling comments.
Either the talks with Kim Jong Un will get cancelled or will happen and go horribly awry. This will be held up as proof that diplomacy won’t work and we need to do a preemptive strike.
Bust out your Juicy Couture track suit and trucker hat and put Paris Hilton back on TV. It’s 2002 all over again!
http://mrwgifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Paris-Hilton-Ew-Gif.gif
Yeah, I don’t know how to feel about Tillerson’s ousting. On one hand, the “Rexxit” jokes just write themselves, but on the other hand… yeah, 2002.
@opposablethumbs
No, not the same at all. The beauty of Poisson is that it’s a very simple model based on binomial data (straight up yes/no, present/absent) where the answer is usually no/absent and only occasionally yes/present.
The thing I forgot to mention about the analysis in that paper was the bootstrap simulation. Basically, they estimated the number of bites before tasting chocolate based on past data, then bit into a thousand chocolate chip cookies to test how many times they would taste chocolate in that first bite and compare actual vs predicted tastes. Well, really the computer tasted a 1000 virtual cookies, but where’s the fun in that? How likely would it be that in tasting a 1000 chocolate chip cookies they would never encounter the taste of chocolate? Very unlikely. Hence more likely that instead it’s been a sugar cookie in the last 22 years.
The stuff you’re talking about is more complicated. Too many variables, complex systems, lots of unknowns, lots of interactions. Not a binary yes/no with a single variable. And it’ll never apply at the individual level–this person, this cigarette, or that storm, that locale on that day. All we can talk about is averages for groups of people—smokers vs nonsmokers–and regions/time periods–hundred-year storms, but not exactly what year in that century the storm will hit.
There’s a fair amount of complicated statistical modeling and analyzing a multitude of variables to try to narrow things down. But there are so many confounding factors that causation is very difficult to pin down. We do a much better job of analyzing stuff that already happened to understand overall patterns than we do predicting specific details of either past or future events.
Thank you, solecism! That does make it a bit clearer 🙂
Ran out of time to edit…sorry, misread your question at first.
You’re right, we’ll never be able to predict at an individual level.
Most medical research relies on longitudinal studies to help figure out risk factors. Lots of people studied over time and comparing those who get lung cancer or breast cancer vs those who don’t, and finding that smoking or HRT is a common denominator in one group vs the other. Followed up by other types of studies and additional similar studies. And then there are studies with patients and their survival over time to figure out what other kinds of risk factors might be involved and the effects of different treatments. Thus, people with breast cancer are now subdivided into different groups based on various molecular markers that are associated with responding better or worse to standard treatment. It requires large groups and analyzing trends and averages. And most medical studies are retrospective–stuff already happened! That also limits predictive ability, identification of causation.
At the end of the day, it helps a particular doctor predict the *likely* prognosis for a particular patient and choose a treatment strategy that is more likely to help that particular patient, but it’s never certain because we’re all unique, our contexts are all different, and it’s complicated. And there are lots of people who get lung cancer who were never smokers (or exposed to cigarette smoke as children), and plenty of smokers who don’t get lung cancer, so obviously there are other factors involved too.
All of that is something that a simple little Poisson model with a single binomial variable can’t cope with.
ITYM bust out your radiation suit and 5 year supply of canned goods for stocking the fallout shelter. 🙁
EJ (The Other One):
That’s a good question. Population density was certainly lower in the north, and I have this general impression that social stratification was always driven by population growth in agricultural societies all over the world – hence the relative equality in low-density hunter-gatherer or marginally agricultural societies. I don’t know if it depends on labor vs. capital balance, or what.
There was also significant agricultural expansion in Finland and Sweden during historical times. I think this clearing of land wasn’t so much limited by labor, but by how much of the land (generally poor soils in a cold climate) was worth cultivating with given agricultural technology. From about 18th century onward, the economic value of forest as timber source for global trade became a serious consideration.
I understand that in Russia the economic conditions were very similar to Sweden/Finland, yet serfdom was instituted for the bulk of population, and the aristocracy was distinctly more posh. May be a random cultural difference, who knows. Serfdom may have been less common in the very sparsely populated northern parts of Russia.
Semi-related to the porn topic, I just learned that Ernest Cline, author of terrible wankfest Ready Player One, has some strange thoughts on porn. He even wrote a ‘poem’ on the topic, which he actually performed for an open mic night.
Looks like WaPo is backing my North Korea war theory up. Not in so many words, but the implications are clear.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2018/03/13/tillerson-vs-pompeo-two-very-different-views-of-north-korea/?utm_term=.fb129716cad7
Gulp
Related to Tillerson’s outing for speaking out against Trump’s preferred narrative, Paul Krugman wrote a whole article about the economic lies that Trump sycophant Peter Navarro tells in order to keep his job. The last two paragraphs?
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/12/opinion/trump-trade-peter-navarro.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=opinion-c-col-left-region®ion=opinion-c-col-left-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-left-region
*sigh*
Also, in other economic news, is this takedown on Alternet about the lies Republicans tell to cover up their class warfare.
https://www.alternet.org/economy/jim-hightower-lies-republicans-tell-us-about-economy
It’s amazing to me. No matter how many times tax cuts for the rich fail to deliver on the middle class prosperity that Republicans promise, a certain subset of American will still always believe that the next tax cut will finally work. It’s just bizarre to me. And nothing you can say will sway these people. Tax cuts are almost like a religion in the US. The culty fundamentalist type of religion. No evidence for it is required. No evidence against it is enough.
@WWTH
Often a small amount of tax cuts ARE used to hire more workers, invest in better equipment, and overall do positive things. But often just enough to serve as a smoke screen to hide their true objective of financial gaming and self-enrichment.
What I don’t get is why so many Reganomics lovers, poor or rich, continue to look to business as the all loving paternal god, that will automatically do what’s good for the economy and humanity for… reasons, I guess. Religious cult indeed.
@WWTH
Ayup, it’s always “This time it’ll work!” The Laffer Curve can never fail, it can only be failed.
Guarantee void in Kansas.
It’s the same shit with talking to Conservatives about Dougie’s moronic sex ed talking point. Sorry to bring it up again, but I was pushing back on the nonsense last night on Twitter and the conversations went something like this:
Now there may be one or two puritans of Christian or Muslim extraction that really are that ashamed of human sexuality, but without fail, the problem wasn’t about the timing of each module or about who wrote it, it was about teaching children about trans individuals and gender expression, with the subtext being “You’re making kids empathize with trans people too early! They haven’t had time to let popular culture and peer pressure harden their attitudes about trans people as predators or traps! Wait until they’re in their teens and have become sullen arrogant 4chan trolls before trying to teach them that trans people are human! Or never, we’ll take that.”
It’d be refreshing if they were just honest about what they want to do, but there’s always a dozen layers of sophistry and bullshit you have to dig through, just like everything the right talks about.
About Tilerson as outsider not happy. Sorry but a halfway sane and predictable voice (for a republican) in the WH exspecially in foreign policy was a plus.
Sorry I don’t want WWIII (still afraid Trump will destroy the world).
German news say it as a sign: To everyone in the WH, you have to agree with me on everythink or you are out.
Which is a terrible idea if you want to rule a country.
About the Protocols of the Elders of Zion: There is a very interesting Graphic Novel from Will Eisner, about it.
Folks, I’m getting a bit paranoid here. Been trying to access the Discord, turns out I can’t even log in, server’s apparently down, the Discord page to get info on that is also down, and every other unrelated “is x down ?” site I’ve tried I can’t access either. But everything else works fine. And the Discord twitter account doesn’t mention anything.
So I’m starting to think someone’s selectively blocking what I’m doing (and being pretty bad at it if I manage to send this). Anyone else having problems ?
shortly before Tillerson got the sack he was saying that the Skipal attack in Salisbury was a very serious attack on a major ally (ya think?). So yes, it might well be Trump wanting a yes man for talks with North Korea, but it might also be that Putin nixed him, like he apparently nixed Romney .
Or both, of course. Or a failure to lick arse on some totally unrelated matter.
Trump has announced he wants a Space Force. He needs to treat NASA with more respect if he wants a manned space program.
I guess Trump decided to Google “biggest failure of the Reagan administration” to get his next policy idea.
Valentin, thank you for the clarification. Ukraine, it seems, has had several centuries of unfortunate neighbors making life difficult.
@John
The Discord’s still working fine at my end.