By David Futrelle
So the Daily Stormer, everyone’s favorite “funny” neo-Nazi shit site, has weighed in on International Women’s Day. In a post (archived here) ostensibly covering the massive Women’s Day strikes in Spain, but which is actually just an excuse to talk shit, DS contributor “Roy Batty” declares that “[w]omen have been really fucking up in the West.”
“Batty” offers a nice long list of the terrible things (and allegedly terrible things) that he thinks women have foisted on Western countries.
[H]ere are some of the benefits that brave, stronk and empowered wimmins have brought to our societies:
college false rape allegations
mass migration from shithole countries
divorce rape
school shooters
fines for not wearing bicycle helmets
consumerism
wages cut in half
herpes
fat acceptance
speech codesSo thanks, ladies?
Damn these dastardly women and their herpes-infused bicycle helmets!
No, but seriously, I can’t even talk to Western women anymore. So I’m not going to be wishing them a Happy Women’s Day. Because they’ve squandered any goodwill I could have felt towards them.
Here’s to replacing this squandered holiday with White Sharia day in the West very, very soon.
“White sharia” is alt-right slang for white dudes having total patriarchal control of “their” women in a future white supremacist ethnostate.
“Batty” would also like to have a couple of other holidays added to the calendar.
If we’re going to have International Woman’s Day though, there should also be an “International Burn a Witch Day” and “International Shame a THOT Day.”
It’s only fair that we reward AND punish.
Huh. These proposed holidays sound more than a little bit like MRA deadbeat grandaddy Paul Elam’s infamous “Bash a Violent Bitch Month.” Maybe the Daily Stormer got the idea from him? Or maybe it’s just that terrible minds think alike — and that these terrible minds love to think of allegedly uppity women getting taken down a peg or two.
Hey, I can play this game, too.
Happy International MRAs and Nazis Eat Shit Day!
@EJ
Of course not; haven’t you read the Protocols of the Elders of Zion?
(in case it may not be clear, this post contains bitter sarcasm)
EJ:
You’re familiar with the insidious term “rootless cosmopolitan”, presumably.
@Mish
I’m flattered. (Visualize a winking emoji here.)
@Katamount
Yeah, it’s disturbing. And choking sounds scary.
When I was dating, I was always extremely clear with my dates. When appropriate, I informed them — when a guy could get the wrong idea — that there would be No Sex. Maybe a little making out, maybe even more — but definitely No Sex.
I think that if I were dating now I would be equally clear about what I liked. “You know that violent, disrespectful stuff you see in porn? Spitting, choking, whatever? I’m not into that. Don’t do it.”
Yeah, I know that’s no guarantee that it won’t happen. But in my experience being really super clear is a good thing. And I don’t mind being a buzz kill.
@Kat
I’m pretty sure the only people who find clearly stated boundaries to be a buzz kill are the kind of people who want plausible deniability when they purposely overstep boundaries.
Kupo, very well put. Someone who experiences the assertion of boundaries as a buzz kill is someone you don’t want to have sexytimes with.
I haven’t had much exposure to mainstream cishet porn, and from what I’ve heard I’m not really missing a lot.
Regarding the nationality of Jews, I was involved in a Quora question thread about whether Ashkenazi Jews are white or not. The rule of thumb seems to be who wants to kick them out of where: if they’re in Europe, they’re Levantine aliens, if they’re in Israel, they’re European colonists. Reading certain European writers from a century ago or more is quite revealing; G. K. Chesterton and Hilaire Belloc had no difficulty believing that Jews could *live* in Britain, but should never consider themselves British, as they would be perpetual aliens in someone else’s country. This applied by extension to all of Europe.
Regarding porn, it is a problem that the rough stuff is creeping into everything. My girlfriend is into choking, slapping, etc, but not everyone is, and sex ed being what it is in the US, seeing that stuff in every vid isn’t good. Not to mention consent issues for the actresses* involved.
*I specify actresses because I’m not aware of similar issues in gay porn, not being the audience and all.
Hello.
> EJ
A quick note if nobody as noticed it before, but “peon” is not french, it is spanish. Maybe a variation was used in France before, but it really went in french language mainly because it was used in Warcraft for Orc builders.
We say “paysan” for “peasant”, which is based on “pays” + the terminal “-an”. “Pays” is “country”, and it is in french as in english (i think) in the way it can obviously, currently, means “nation”, but it is originally the “contryside” part of land which was defined, often by opposition to the “city”.
The french “vilain” (for villain) is a category of peasant, who live and work in a rural domain, a “villa” (which has, in modern days, become the designation of individual home outside big cities by opposition to appartments in buildings and city houses). They were not serfs, as they were not the property of someone (which lead to various levels of hate from serfs and nobles). They were the rural freemen by contrast with the old french “citoien” (which give us in french “citoyen” and “citadin”) who were urban freemen.
To note, “vilain” is also an adjective in french to mean something bad or displeasant, but it is based on the “vil” root (from latin vilis, low cost). You find it also in the old designation of the lead, the “vil métal”, by opposition to gold, silver, and other “nobles métaux”.
Have a nice day.
In USSR papers will say nationality (ethnicity) on them. this will say Russian for example, but also if you are Jewish it will say Jew, it doesnt matter where you born. Jewish is separate “nationality” (ethnicity). I am sure Putin’s attidue is because of this.
AFAIK, Russian language makes a clear distinction between ethnic Russian vs. Russian national. Valentin can spell out the correct words.
IDK how much ethnic minorities in Russia are generally singled out for discrimination, but their presence has always been strong.
AFAIK, Russian language makes a clear distinction between ethnic Russian vs. Russian citizen. Valentin can spell out the correct words.
IDK how much ethnic minorities in Russia are generally singled out for discrimination, but their presence has always been strong.
EDIT, Valentin is here right now, so he can continue on this vein.
Continuing in the vein of putin I’m arguing with the old man about the Skripal nerve gas case. He watches a little RT and has developed a mocking tone whenever it comes on the BBC that it was probably Russia. As a rationalist I just cant help but point out that it was probably Russia. Just as a matter of probability.
arctic ape I believe you tall about ethnic russians and Russian cidizens. however this is different from what I mean. because Jewish Russian born in Russia or even jew who came to Russia and become cidizen will both called Russian cidizen. someone like me, born in other country but with Russian parents is ethnic Russian. before in USSR times personal papers will say Jew specifically, if you are Jewish. this no longer on personally papers. but in that time, it is used for discrimination, even if laws say everyone is equal. for example it is more difficult for jews to enter university. they make exams too hard with questions with no correct answer. called coffin questions. I believe this is why putin has attidue that jews are separate from Russian.
@occasional reader:
Thank you for the correction, that’s very interesting.
Free peasants, like French vilains, are an interesting class; as you point out they were often hated by both landowners and serfs. The best example of this is probably in the old Russian Empire, where the kulak class became such a byword for loathing amongst the populace that very bad things happened.
In medieval England there were some elongated power struggles between the kings and the major landowners, which meant that there are incidents where the free peasant class and the kings made common cause. Troops recruited from amongst them were sometimes considered more reliable than noble-born soldiers. This may be why the English term for a free peasant, yeoman, is often used as a military term.
Now for an abrupt mood shift between this and the next response.
@Valentin:
@Arctic Ape:
That’s monstrous. That’s some Old South Africa level of fucked up.
I mean, I know that Russia has been going through a rise in nationalism, but that sort of legally-ingrained exclusion is just disgusting.
Sigh. Thank you for enlightening me; I hadn’t realised that the world contained such shittiness.
EJ
jews excluded and persecuted since they came to eastern Europe. no country is innocent. Jews are most viticms of Great Revolt of the Cossacks in Ukraine. 40, 000 jews killed. it is part of history. in history there is also something called Pale of Settlement which meant jews are not allowed to live in certain areas in Ukraine, and this is why plenty of Jews live in Odesa for example, because this area is not in Pale of Settlement.
like i said, there are no laws before in USSR to stop jews or to discriminate, only secret behaviours, like these questions, and that personal papers say ‘jew”. of course this is design because Jews seen like different, but at least government can say – everyone is equal, even if they secretly are not.
> EJ
Well, in France, there have been famous vilain revolts known as “Jacqueries”. There also have been Tuchin riots, but it was more specific revolts and they are less taught in schools.
Thanks for your other informations, it is really interesting !
> Out of topic
If you are tired of hearing that video games cause violence, tired of Super Seducer, why not try to… replay the late presidential elections with… cats ! (I just read the main review, so maybe the game is bad, but as i know you love cats…)
EJ (The Other One):
Does yeoman include both land-owning commoner farmers, tenant farmers and free farm workers? I guess in Finland all historical peasantry would’ve then been “yeomen”.
In Finnish historical usage, peasant classes tend to be lumped under talonpoika, which properly meant land-owning commoner farmers. These were a large part of the population, they formed the rural “middle class” and had a significant amount of political influence. They also liked to frame themselves as “downtrodden common people” against the nobility, while sitting clearly above tenants and farm workers. Unlike Russian kulaks, they successfully sold themselves as role models for the emerging national romanticism.
Finnish doesn’t really have a word for “peasant” – when talonpoika is used for that, it can be quite misleading when compared to countries where peasants were mostly serfs. Another word is rahvas, which meant all “common people” outside nobility (farmers, workers, burghers and clergy).
@occasional reader,
That game looks like fun! And the Steam page was worth reading just for the last patch log:
I need to know what DJ Nibbles’s dong typo was.
On a somewhat more serious note, a study on Australian gun laws has just been released, which explicitly counters the NRA argument that the lack of mass shootings here is simply luck, or accident. It’s a peer-reviewed, reputable journal, and the article is currently open access.
I’d be interested to hear what more mathematically minded people think of it.
@ mish
Ooh, this looks interesting,
Ah, well that rules me out.
In all seriousness, that was an interesting read. I’ve no idea what all that null and poisson stuff is, but I think I can get the overall conclusion. It’s interesting though that they can mathematically test what appears to be just common sense.
@Valentin:
My Eastern European history is poorer than it should be; thank you for filling me in.
I had heard of the Pale of Settlement as being a mainly Polish thing. Is that due to Poland having ruled much of Western Ukraine for a long time?
@Arctic Ape:
It is my understanding that under most Western European systems of feudalism, peasants did not own land at all, whether serf or free. This is certainly the case in more organised kingdoms like England and Sicily (post 1160-ish).
In Germany, there were some ancient lands owned by the farmers themselves; such land was known as allodial. (Germany here includes places like Czechia and Burgundy.) This wasn’t very common though, and got less common as time went on.
The free peasant class tended, as occasional reader says, to be wealthier than the unfree peasants. This is because serfs were legally bound to give their overlords free labour and whatever else they could be bullied into parting with, whereas the free peasants couldn’t. In rich times like the early 13th century, many free peasant families used this wealth to become socially dominant in the villages, which entrenched their wealth further. In England, the yeomanry was heavily overrepresented in the attempt to establish a professional, lay civil service.
(Lay here means non-Church. The Church is a separate and very big topic on which people have written PhDs, and my PhD wasn’t on anything related to this.)
As such, it’d be better to think of free peasants as tenant farmers. The free peasantry was mostly pretty small: 5% – 10% of the populace at the most, and often significantly smaller than that.
Finland might have been different because land wasn’t that rare. Western Europe basically ran out of unused fertile land to place under cultivation during the late 12th – early 13th century. This caused a labour surplus, shifted bargaining power decisively against the landless peasantry, and probably fuelled the growth of towns even further.
Since Finland has a pretty much limitless expanse of forests and lakes and more forests and more lakes, it sounds plausible to me to say that this power shift might never have happened there. I have no idea if this was indeed the case.
Take all this with a grain of salt though: I am not a historian.
@ EJ
Technically that’s still the case here. The Crown (or in Cornwall, the Duchy) owns all the land. The highest form of land ownership here is fee simple absolute in perpetuity; although in practice we do refer to that as a ‘freehold’.
That does though affect things like compulsory purchase (’eminent domain’ as I believe it’s called in the States); and I’ll avoid banging on about Stannary Law and things like tin bounding.
I’ve had quite a few run-ins with the Duchy and their rather aggressive approach to bona vacantia (ie, claiming a right to properly ‘without an owner’) so I was particularly delighted when that came back to bite them in the arse. A harbour wall collapsed in the recent storms; nobody wants to pay the millions to repair it. So everyone’s denied owning it and pointed out to the Duchy that it’s now their problem.
it is introduced by Imperial Russia in 1700s, after they controlled more of Urkainian lands, lands which before are part of Poland-Lithuanian commonwealth, which is maybe why you think it is polish – but it isn’t. in this time Ukraine is divided already between Russian empire and habsburgs.
@Mish
Thanks for sharing the link to that study. Looks good to me. Mind you, my stats skills have been gathering dust in a corner for a good 15+ years, but I always enjoyed Poisson analyses.
It’s basically like analyzing a chocolate chip cookie. The chocolate chips are sufficiently scattered and rare that when you take a bite of cookie you don’t always get a chocolate chip. But you can estimate how many bites it’ll take to taste another chocolate chip based on past experience. The NRA argument is that the cookie is large enough and the chocolate chips rare enough that Australia’s only been hitting cookie dough with each bite for the last 22 years, but it’s still chocolate chip cookie.
This study is saying nope, it definitely tastes like sugar cookie now with no chocolate chips available. If it were still a chocolate chip cookie, Australia would have tasted one of those chocolate chips by now. Far more likely the cookie was changed out, but they can’t prove it beyond the fact that if it were a chocolate chip cookie, they should have hit a chocolate chip at least once in the last 22 bites based on previous experience. So most likely, the cookie was switched to a sugar cookie, even though they don’t have video documentation of the switcheroo, just circumstantial evidence.
@solecism
Now that I understood.
@ solecism
Thank you! If they’d explained things like that at school I’d probably be able to count.