By David Futrelle
Here, courtesy of Australian funny lady writer Bec Shaw’s Twitter, is what may well be “the most amazing ‘what about men’ of all time.”
The pic above I mean.
This dude is arguing with her in the replies.
3/4 of suicides are men, it's the leading cause of death for men under 45.
75% of homicide victims are male.
75% of homeless people are male
93% workplace deaths are men.
Men die 8 years earlier than women
Etc etc 1/
— Andy Waters (@AndyWaters1000) February 26, 2018
But we should be outraged by a phantom wage gap – ie: some millionaire Hollywood actresses and a few millionare CEO's are a paid a little less than their male colleagues.
Polar bears are important too.
Cue tedious MRA accusations…
2/
— Andy Waters (@AndyWaters1000) February 26, 2018
its a polar bear https://t.co/f77df6kcST
— Bec Shaw (@Brocklesnitch) February 26, 2018
If you’re on the twitter you should follow Bec and also her WomanAgainstFeminism parody account.
I’ve never seen people that are so outraged by the most mundane shit. Seriously, are all MRA’s super privileged white guys with too much time on their hands?
At least one of them has finally learned that there is an International Men’s Day. Will he forget over the next 10 days?
@Subtract Hominem
Sometimes I wonder whether these assholes have selective memory in order to score political points.
@ female yid you must be new here. Grab a chair whilst I make us some popcorn
I adore Bec Shaw (and the parody account) and I love that the polar bear’s name is Mishka – ’twas my nickname growing up.
Most of Arguing Guy’s figures are roughly correct, for Australia anyway (except wrt homelessness; men make up 56% of the total). And these are indeed serious problems. I hope that Arguing Guy is working to change the following:
1. indigenous Australians make up only 3% of the population, but about a quarter of the homeless population, and many of these are men.
2. most of the asylum-seekers on Manus Island (all of whom are male) have severe mental health issues, including suicidal ideation.
3. workplace deaths – this is what unions are constantly working to improve. I have no idea what Arguing Guy’s views are, but I do know that many people who yell about male deaths on the job are also anti-union and anti-regulation.
Plenty of good work being done by plenty of good people on these problems, but more help is always needed and welcomed! Just a suggestion, Arguing Guy 🙂
How pathetic do you have to be to get jealous of polar bears? And how pathetic do you have to be to think the guy who’s jealous of polar bears has a point important enough to get into an argument about it?
The polar bear population is threatened due to loss of habitat caused by global warming. The male human population? Not so much. So shut the fuck, what about the menzers.
i am jealous of polar bears, but mostly because bears are great. I’m not sure if that applies here though.
I should say jealous in the sense of being bitter that some people like them. As opposed to just wishing you could be that majestic or cute or fierce or whatever.
Not sure if its been covered here but this is hilarious: http://www.cracked.com/blog/i-read-steven-seagalE28099s-insane-novel-so-you-donE28099t-have-to/
This guy reminds me of Gregory Malchuk, the Intactivist who just tweets about anti-circumcision (which is a perfectly worthy cause) at the most innocuous of posts.
It’s just strange how strident some can be in inserting their pet cause into an otherwise innocent subject…
“My son turned 3 today!! Happy Birthday!”
*posts a graphic photo of a baby being circumcised* “Did you rape your boy at birth?!?”
(He once tweeted something to AMC theaters, who was offering a special on a movie. That sort of thing.)
What I’m saying is, timing. Timing is everything, if one wants to be taken seriously about their cause.
TreePerson:
That was brilliant. The worst fan fiction I ever read was better than some of that shit. Thanks for finding and sharing.
@PeeVee
They only care about circumcision when they can blame it on women instead of the corn flakes guys masturbation obsession,
so if anything its an anti-sex thing rather then anti-men thing (especially when you consider not all penis owners are men).
@Otrame
It sounds like its managed to be worse then 50 shades,
of course a lot right wing fiction is like this the real question is is it worse then left behind?
Michael Morrison is upset by polar bears getting all the attention. MRAs (aka sexist authoritarians) always have a problem with animals.
They call women birds, pigs, chicks, sows, cows, heifers, etc.
They’re mad that a woman might prefer her cat to an MRA.
These sexist authoritarians also have a problem with nature. They’re trying to destroy our beautiful planet, our one and only home.
Whatever they can’t control, they attempt to demean or kill.
Then they’re sad when people spot this character trait and want nothing to do with them.
I guess I’d be sad too if I were a terrible human being.
OT, but it looks like there’s another predator in show biz:
Ryan Seacrest’s Former E! Stylist Alleges Sexual Assault
https://jezebel.com/ryan-seacrests-former-e-stylist-alleges-sexual-assault-1823340064
May it be so.
The Force of Decency Awakens
Paul Krugman FEB. 26, 2018
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/26/opinion/the-force-of-decency-awakens.html
Missed the ‘on average’ part. Also, in Australia, it’s 4yrs difference and, in Murica, it’s 5
If MRAs really are eager to go head-to-head with the polar bear, I’m cool with putting them on ice-floes together to duke it out.
@EverythingIsRidiculous
Wait this is wrong! You need to give the bears tums, don’t want the bears to get a stomachache from eating such toxic material.
(Oh hello! Been a while since I last posted here! Sorry for that…)
And… now I’m writing a rock song called “What About the Men?!?”… at the moment the lyrics are more straightforward rather than satirical because I’m generally bad at satire, but… I may be able to go for satire if I can pull it off… we’ll see…
90% of the murders and almost 75% of the violent crimes are committed by men too (at least in the US), but somehow MRAs never bring that up, want to think about the possible reasons behind why that is or consider what should be done about it.
Course they do. It’s proof to them that women are slackers who’d rather sit around eating bon bons than do their part. The men are having to give it 150% to make up for the shortfall in violent women.
When random twitter MRAs complain about the supposed lack of an International Men’s Day, they kind of have a point that such a day effectively doesn’t exist.
It’s not popular or well known compared to the International Women’s Day. It’s not recognized (AFAIK) by governments or other major organizations. You might well not have heard of it if you aren’t an MRA – or if you are an MRA but too lazy to google men’s issues.
From there we get to the obvious reason why things like International Men’s Day or White History Month or Straight Pride aren’t taking off. These things just aren’t socially relevant, most people don’t care and even the people who purport to care don’t really have a vision on how it’d work in practice so they focus on blaming others’ passivity.
I didn’t look at Andy Waters further tweets, because I didn’t want to loose the sense of “not so horrible, probably still sane, at last not impolite” (the last one makes for easier discusion).
The first one is for me the more interesting one.
Homeless people and work placesafty are topics that if you want to increase the situation nobody will say anythink against it.
Interesting question is for me of course why there are more homeless men than women since women are more in danger of getting poor.
About worksafty:
One reason is that men seem to do more manual work, aka more dangerous work, historical. This is chanching in western society, so this number would be very interesting to see how it veries from country to country.
Another reason is that men try to be overconfident, or not paying attention more often than women. (from my experience)
About life expectancy:
In my homecoutry the difference from the last UNStudie its 4.7 years.
What I heared (sorry have no source) that the difference is shrinking.
For Germany one of the mainreasons for males dying earlier was war that is no longer a reason for dying today.
One of the other reasons for the gab getting closer is that women are taking all kind of jobs today and a dangerous life/ having unhealthy habbits is more common among femals than it was one centuary ago.
Making it longer, everythink is good, as long as we stay healthy, but I found a country were the difference is only about 1 year.
Unfortunatly I think most men would take that women live longer 4-5 years and live in everance 30 years longer than women living only a year longer and both sexes die around 50 in avarange.
Edit: Happy PolarBearday even if I am a bit late.
@Arctic Ape,
This is all true. And meanwhile, there are actual things that actually try to improve things for men; e.g. Men’s Health Week. I’ve never seen an MRA promoting that.
Men’s Day, White History Month, etc. etc. are all premised on the warped notion of equality these people have – one which ignores:
1. the lack of a level playing field
2. the sheer weight of history
3. other things that I’m too tired to properly articulate…
A few months back, people got angry about Far Cry 5 b/c it featured whites as the antagonists. There were literally takes like “imagine if there was a game where black people were the bad guys!!! The SJWs would be furious!”
More recently, my favourite hot take on Black Panther was: “imagine if there was a movie about a white superhero from a mythical land?!!!” to which many replied: you mean, like, Thor? or Superman?
(I lied: my favourite hot take on Black Panther was the Breitbart dude who argued that T’Challa was basically Trump; Wakanda the US).
@Mish
Do they even know Far Cry 3/4 exist or do they think that Far Cry 5 just came into existence with that number for no reason?
I’m imagining these people saw wolfenstein II and went “gasp A game where you kill nazis!? Imagine if it was about killing Muslims the snowflakes would be in a tizzy!”