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Telling dudes not to blatantly stare at boobs is basically castration, if you think about it

Take a picture; it’ll last longer

By David Futrelle

FADE IN

INT.     DEPARTMENT OF MOTOR VEHICLES

WOMAN WAITING IN LINE TO RENEW DRIVERS LICENSE:

 Dude, could you maybe stop blatantly staring at my boobs?

GUY WHO JUST WROTE A 1000-WORD POST FOR RETURN OF KINGS TITLED “THERE’S NOTHING WRONG WITH STARING AT A WOMAN’S BREASTS”

This boils down to slandering healthy male sexuality as if there’s something abnormal in a man who feels sexual desire towards a beautiful woman and likes boobs and firm butts. The reality, of course, is that nothing could be more normal than this …

But even this mere feeling of desire and sexual interest towards women is slandered and labeled as something questionable these days. …

Why do people propagate this message so eagerly these days? I can only guess, but it seems quite clear to me that these people feel some kind of fear towards male sexuality. The male sexual desire itself is somehow scary or dangerous and should be denigrated and slandered so that men would begin to feel shame about their completely healthy desires.

In a certain way, these people want to castrate men: make men into sheepish “gentlemen” who no longer look women with “greedy eyes” and feel sexual desire towards them, or who at least are ashamed of it and keep it to themselves. This is a form of psychological castration and I can only feel a strong sense of contempt towards people who propagate this bullshit. …

The message is a malicious attempt to slander and denigrate normal male sexuality. “Gentleman” here seems to be a man who doesn’t even feel sexual desire towards women anymore and never looks at women with “greedy eyes.” In other words, an abnormal castrate instead of a healthy man. What a truly despicable agenda!

GUY turns to look at woman. She is gone. Everyone else is gone. He is locked inside the now-closed DMV.

FADE OUT

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Amazonia the Pink Dragon, Eater of Alpha Males
Amazonia the Pink Dragon, Eater of Alpha Males
3 years ago

I find it satisfying while a random guy obviously is gawking at my breasts to say something akin to “they won’t do any special you know” or “you know the longer you stare isn’t going to convince me to show you their awesome glory”.
Yes they are larger than average but it’s not a spectacle. It’s not like they’ll shoot fireworks or grant 3 wishes to you

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

I’m pretty sure anyone who names himself after this guy

http://mrwgifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Respect-My-Authoritah-On-South-Park-Episode-When-Cartman-Becomes-a-Cop.gif

will never contribute anything useful to the conversation.

Gaebolga
Gaebolga
3 years ago

Apropos of nothing, “Retractable Breasts” ought to be a King Missile song, like “Detachable Penis”…

Scildfreja Unnyðnes wrote:

…Their positions feel like they’re just about declaring how tough and strong and independent they are, how they don’t need help, and how chosen they are. How entitled. Something-something-virtue-signal.

[Bolding mine]

A lot of people seem quick to see in others what they themselves are most guilty of, so the whole right-wing conviction that feminist men must be “virture signaling” or trying to get laid rather than, y’know, actually giving a shit about equality could be a supporting data point here.

Scildfreja Unnyðnes
Scildfreja Unnyðnes
3 years ago

Yeah, that, @Gaebolga. I try to avoid talking about projection, because it’s a human universal and not something that’s unique to them. It’s just an availability thing – if it’s something you do, it comes up as a possible reason for why others might behave the same way. The concept is more available, neurologically. But you’re entirely right that it’s real and it’s happening to them.

I doubt it’s a conscious thing, though. I think that they worry that they feel fake. They worry that they’re just posturing, that their positions are empty. So they shout their slogans louder, and claim that their opponents are empty. I imagine it’s an expression of insecurity.

Gaebolga
Gaebolga
3 years ago

Scildfreja Unnyðnes wrote:

The concept is more available, neurologically.

Exactly so.

Scildfreja Unnyðnes wrote:

I doubt it’s a conscious thing, though. I think that they worry that they feel fake. They worry that they’re just posturing, that their positions are empty. So they shout their slogans louder, and claim that their opponents are empty. I imagine it’s an expression of insecurity.

Agreed, especially since I suspect that people who are aware of their own failings might be a bit more precise in identifying those similarities in others.

Or at least I hope they are. For personal reasons, of course.

I’ve been saying for years that it’s the patterns we don’t know we’re following that define us…

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
3 years ago

Speaking of posturing, I had occasion to be reading up on something recently, and I was struck by how apposite this was in the Trump era…

His primary rules were: never allow the public to cool off; never admit a fault or wrong; never concede that there may be some good in your enemy; never leave room for alternatives; never accept blame; concentrate on one enemy at a time and blame him for everything that goes wrong; people will believe a big lie sooner than a little one; and if you repeat it frequently enough people will sooner or later believe it.

(From the OSS profile of Hitler)

Sheila Crosby
3 years ago

It’s not so much that I object to men noticing my breasts. It’s just that while they stare they’re ignoring my brains and sense of humour and creativity and love for my son and …

LindsayIrene
3 years ago

The day I can finally get a breast reduction will be glorious. A-holes have been gaping at them since they were inflicted on me when I was eleven. The only thing they’ve gotten me is PTSD from years of middle-school sexual harassment and assault. Oh, and back trouble. Fuck you, evolution, what the hell does anyone need boobs bigger than a B-cup for, anyway?

Female Yid
Female Yid
3 years ago

@Alan Robertshaw

I’m new, thank you for the welcome.

It’s worth noting that not everyone who voted for Trump is a Charlottesville neo-nazi. Almost all Republicans voted for Trump.

Most upper and middle class white people are, regardless of political affiliation, not overtly racist. Capitalism is international, and most of them have someone in their circle of association who’s not white. With the exception of billionaires (who usually vote Democrat because of their crony capitalist policies and their perverse aristocratic feminism (they care about their daughters and their economic prospects and therefore support the kind of neoliberal feminist nonsense we’re fed by the so-called “left-wing” media)) most of these people vote Republican.

The people I’m referring to are the people who read The Daily Stormer, who peddle anti-semitic canards and who join anti-immigrant militias. The kinds of men who join white student unions and bitch about minorities having rights. Most Republicans (at least the ones I’ve met) don’t do this, phrasing it in a kind of neoliberal “we’re all equal now” schlock. They just tolerate Trump because of their white class privilege they feel he’ll defend. This is out of self-interest, not hatred.

The people I’m talking about are the Roosh V’s, the Matt Forneys and the Andrew anglins. They are almost universally lower-middle-class white guys with ego issues who know their economic status in under threat but refuse to realize its capitalism that is the problem not immigrants. They oftentimes blame Jews like me for being more successful than them despite structural anti-semitism (we succeed because we’ve created alternate power networks to circumnavigate the troubles one has with not being an insider; anyone who believes we live in a “meritocracy” has no idea how capitalism works)

These are the kinds of assholes you meet at gun shows who sexually harass women and hate minorities. These are the kinds of people who show up to Trump rallies and scream “build the wall” and “white power”. I used to work in the arms industry. I know.

@Scildfreya

The large majority of the lower class are ethnic minorities, so much so Curtis Yarvin (of neoreactionary fame) referred to them as untouchables (a reference to the Indian caste system). When looking at economic data on voting, divide it by race. Most white trash vote right or at the very least right-leaning (Manchin, a Democrat, wins in WV by being something of a populist on economic issues and a social conservative). Most Republicans from the Midwest tend to be populist on economic issues, hence why most senators from there aren’t happy with Trump’s plan.

Female Yid
Female Yid
3 years ago

@LindsayIrene

I feel much the same way. The only difference is that my huge boobs get me a lot of very positive attention from sexual partners, so I don’t mind them.

LindsayIrene
3 years ago

Just because the upper classes are more polite than us ‘white trash’ types doesn’t mean they’re any less racist.

RubyHypatia
RubyHypatia
3 years ago

It isn’t male sexuality that’s scary, it’s creepy behavior. Staring is creepy, don’t do it.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
3 years ago

@ female yid

This is out of self-interest, not hatred.

You raise some interesting points. I suppose there could be an interesting semantic discussion as to whether wilful disregard for people, for whatever motive, amounts to hatred. Perhaps in the end it’s a distinction without a difference.

Similarly, the end result of ‘passive’ as opposed to active racism amounts to the same thing. One might not be out there with a tiki torch; but if you end up voting for someone who encourages the marching Nazis, even if all you’re bothered about is lower income tax, then you’re still facilitating that.

And having said all that there seems to be plenty of folks who will vote against their own self interest, so long as people they hate get shafted even more.

kupo
kupo
3 years ago

@LindsayIrene
I would argue they’re not more polite, either, based on my customer support experiences.

Schnookums Von Ghostface Fancypants Killer
Schnookums Von Ghostface Fancypants Killer
3 years ago

I really don’t care that certain Trump voters aren’t the sort to be openly Neo-nazi; at this point it’s a distinction without a difference.

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

It’s worth noting that not everyone who voted for Trump is a Charlottesville neo-nazi. Almost all Republicans voted for Trump.

Is the bar for racist now so high it’s set at neo-Nazi?

Most upper and middle class white people are, regardless of political affiliation, not overtly racist.

Capitalism is international, and most of them have someone in their circle of association who’s not white. With the exception of billionaires (who usually vote Democrat because of their crony capitalist policies and their perverse aristocratic feminism (they care about their daughters and their economic prospects and therefore support the kind of neoliberal feminist nonsense we’re fed by the so-called “left-wing” media)) most of these people vote Republican.

Trump is overtly racist. Voting for Trump is a racist act. Therefore Trump voters are either racist or don’t mind racism and feel comfortable voting for a racist which is effectively the same as being a racist. It does not matter if rich people know some rich people of color that they consider one of the good ones. They can still be racist.

White supremacy has always existed in the upper classes. They’re just as LindsayIrene said more genteel about it. Trump himself is evidence of this. Strom Thurmand is an older example. In the heyday of the KKK, many of the most influential and/or affluent people in small southern towns were members. White supremacy has never been exclusively a working class thing. If anything it’s the opposite.

And can you explain what you mean perverse aristocratic feminism and neoliberal feminist nonsense?

Most white trash

No. Just… No.

Hexum7
Hexum7
3 years ago

Kupo. Inasked you because you appear to have a sensitivity to such things. I didn’t mean it as some sort of passive aggressive thing.

Generational dysfunction may be a term i made up, but I’m pretty sure I’ve read it used before.

Anyway, I was talking about dysfunctional behavior that is passed from one generation to the next- as in, say, a person with a poor diet learned to eat that way because his parents fed them those foods, and so, they think that’s the way everyone eats. Or, to bring it around to the topic. Some dude who thinks its ok to abuse women because that’s how dear old mom and dad interacted. That sort of thing.

kupo
kupo
3 years ago

I’m sensitive to which things? And what gives you the impression that I’m “sensitive”?

Female Yid
Female Yid
3 years ago

> Is the bar for racist now so high it’s set at neo-Nazi?

I was explaining to Alan that I was referring to the kind of racist idiot that reads and contributes to ROK.

> Trump is overtly racist. Voting for Trump is a racist act. Therefore Trump voters are either racist or don’t mind racism and feel comfortable voting for a racist which is effectively the same as being a racist. It does not matter if rich people know some rich people of color that they consider one of the good ones. They can still be racist.

They’re not racist in the overt sense. Self-interest makes them ignore it in others. They might not be racist in their personal lives, but they either willfully choose to ignore racism because of their privilege or engage in a kind of “if minorities fail it’s their own fault” kind of neoliberal logic.

> White supremacy has always existed in the upper classes. They’re just as LindsayIrene said more genteel about it. Trump himself is evidence of this. Strom Thurmand is an older example. In the heyday of the KKK, many of the most influential and/or affluent people in small southern towns were members. White supremacy has never been exclusively a working class thing. If anything it’s the opposite.

It doesn’t anymore. As I’ve shown, most large businesses have diversity policies. Most billionaires vote left. Your typical white trash millionaire is the exception, not the rule.

> And can you explain what you mean perverse aristocratic feminism and neoliberal feminist nonsense?

What I’m referring to is Sheryl Sandberg’s brand of Lean In style feminist activism that assumes capitalism has no inherent flaws beside maybe being sexist once in a while and completely ignores racial issues. More often than not, this brand of feminism completely sidesteps the role class structures have in creating racial oppression.

Hexum7
Hexum7
3 years ago

Hippodaemia, there’s no doubt that he has a Barnum and Bailey sized sense of entitlement.

But, he literally said guys are shamed by such a trivial request for common courtesy. Not stifled or belittled. And that that simple request for decency turned all men into victimized involuntary eunuchs Now, maybe he was just aping a typical MRA script about everything being a plot to devalue males, or maybe it’s just his way of trying to be like the “cool kids” in his clique, but he seems to think it’s a logical conclusion that all men are being mutilared by this sort of request

It’s funny how his own example doesn’t even match his unwarranted resentment- the fictional woman said don’t BLATENTLY stare at my mammeries, not don’t discreetly stare at them.

If she had hypothetically told him that he shouldn’t stare at any woman’s breast, he might have had at least some justification for feeling oppressed by her discomfort.

Of course, a woman’s discomfort is not as important as a man’s right to be a dick

But I’ll bet dollars to donuts that if some guy next to him at a urinal was BLATENTLY checking out his Virile make member, , he’d pitch a fit.

Either he is incredibly unselfish aware, or a disingenuous twit or both. But I think he sincerely feels shamed

kupo
kupo
3 years ago

@Hexum7
And you feel sorry for him…why? On a site where we discuss the way men treat women like objects, why do you feel the need to chime in with pity for the men who are treatingg women like garbage?

Hexum7
Hexum7
3 years ago

Kupo. I did not mean sensitive to mean “over-sensitive” maybe that was the wrong word. I should have written that you seem to be attuned to and empathic with the concept that certain words or ways of phrasing can be problematic…..because I hadn’t even considered that a mocking post might be used to legitimize the thing it was intended to mock, until you pointed it out.

kupo
kupo
3 years ago

@Hexum7
I’m not here to do your emotional labor for you. I’m no more attuned or empathetic than the next person (less, if you consider my ability to read emotions from facial expressions).

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

but they either willfully choose to ignore racism because of their privilege or engage in a kind of “if minorities fail it’s their own fault” kind of neoliberal logic.

These things are both overt racism. Just because someone engages in white supremacy without believing they’re engaging in white supremacy, doesn’t mean it’s not white supremacy.

It doesn’t anymore. As I’ve shown, most large businesses have diversity policies.

A lot of this is because discrimination is against the law and because they want to avoid bad publicity. That doesn’t mean that corporate executives are not personally racist.

Most billionaires vote left.

I’m not sure that this is the case, but if it is, so what? Billionaire is a very small sample. Even if the majority of billionaires in the US are Democrats, that does not mean poor white people are more racist than middle and upper class white people.

Your typical white trash millionaire is the exception, not the rule.

Just because you keep saying that, doesn’t make it true. Take a look at the entire caucus of the house and senate GOP. Full of racist millionaires. It’s just that before Trump came along, Republican politicians used the southern strategy. So that white people, many if not most of them middle and upper class could vote for racism and pretend like they weren’t.

And stop calling people white trash. It’s classist.

What I’m referring to is Sheryl Sandberg’s brand of Lean In style feminist activism that assumes capitalism has no inherent flaws beside maybe being sexist once in a while and completely ignores racial issues. More often than not, this brand of feminism completely sidesteps the role class structures have in creating racial oppression.

I’m not clear why you think Lean In feminism is bad considering your fondness for classist language and blaming white supremacy on poor people when it’s a system built and maintained by the wealthy powerful.

Hexum7
Hexum7
3 years ago

It’s not that I feel sorry for him so much as I think we should examine what causes the problem. My referring to him as “sad” was intended to mean that he, emotionally was sad, not that we should be pitiful.

But, in trying to figure out what might cause such mindsets, it’s inevitable that we become more empathic to their mental condition.

I’m not trying to do a Drumf ” there are good people in all sides” jive. He’s a bad actor, and a dangerous man, no matter what the cause

Female Yid
Female Yid
3 years ago

@Hexum7

These men are not shamed and stifled. They are precisely the opposite. Their gargantuan senses of entitlement and demand for unearned respect are the result of them not being sufficiently shamed.

Female Yid
Female Yid
3 years ago

@Weirwood

I have no shame referring to working-class anti-semites who shit on the hard won achievements of my people as being white trash. Get over yourself.

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

But I think he sincerely feels shamed

I think you’re over analyzing him. The manosphere has a long history of appropriating the language of social justice and trying to use it as a gotcha against “SJWs.”

Feminists talk about slut shaming, so they tried to make creep shaming a thing. He doesn’t feel shamed. He’s just using the word because his goal is to prevent women from having and enforcing boundaries. It’s a time honored tactic of theirs.

I’m sure you probably mean well and all but women are constantly asked empathize with the men who want harm us and anything that looks like a suggestion that we coddle the feelings of misogynists is not going to go over well here.

Women are shamed for being attractive, not being attractive, trusting men who wind up hurting us, not trusting men because we fear they might harm us, saying yes to sex, saying no to sex, wearing makeup, not wearing makeup and on and on and on. Yet we somehow manage not to have whole websites dedicated to learning how to abuse men well. I kind of don’t care if this guy feels shamed or not. But I’m betting he doesn’t.

kupo
kupo
3 years ago

@Female Yid
The comments policy doesn’t agree with you. Please be respectful to it and to other commenters.

Troubelle: Moonbeam Malcontent + Bard of the New Movement
Troubelle: Moonbeam Malcontent + Bard of the New Movement
3 years ago

@Hexum7

Be a dear and pipe down. We’ve all got bigger fish to fry–or at least pizza to reheat.

In an attempt to reconcile @wwth and @FemaleYid:

-While everyone who voted for Trump is racist in some sense (from not caring enough to not commit a racist act to doing it solely to oppress), there is a difference between actors (ex. Charlottesville lot) and supporters (ex. my parents). Both are shitty, both support shitty policies. But there is a meaningful difference when it comes to “who are we discussing, exactly?”.
-When it comes to the rich, it should be noted that Repubs are overt white supremacists, Dems are more covert ones. Neither of them as a bloc are going to do much good the way things are now, and flouty billionaires generally pay for who they want to win and what they’ll do from there anyway.
-I’m guessing FemaleYid means White Feminism™ in its most abysmally useless form?
-probably avoid using ‘white trash’ though. While it does assure we know who you’re talking about, it’s tremendously classist–and it’s the lower class that’s been lied to and manipulated. Yeah, there’s shitty members of it, but the roots of the issue lie upward. This isn’t your garden-variety houseplant–this is a gravity garden.

I took too long on this so things might’ve moved forward sooooooherewego.

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

It’s interesting that Female Yid showed up a day after mrex was banned.

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Hexum7
Hexum7
3 years ago

FEMALE YID, I noted that he is bigly entitled. There’s no question about that, but I think that the fact that he feels shamed is very telling of a massive perpetual focus on shaming issues. Can’t it be both?

That, or maybe he was just disingenuously playing the fake outrage card using buzzwords. Could be a combination of all three.

But if we end the conversation with how terrible this guy is, and never go further into the reasons, or try to have some empathy about whatever drives this shit, other than patriarchal memes ( I mean in the literal sense, not the Internet definition) this will remain the same, no matter how much women break the glass ceiling. You can’t fight what you don’t understand.

At Ieast, that’s my opinion

Hexum7
Hexum7
3 years ago

kupo, please chill. I just asked you a question- one which wouldn’t have required more than a one word answer, not to tutor me. Sheesh

Never mind “chilling”, must already be cold up on that high horse

Troubelle: Moonbeam Malcontent + Bard of the New Movement
Troubelle: Moonbeam Malcontent + Bard of the New Movement
3 years ago

@Hexum7, would you kindly not.

Female Yid
Female Yid
3 years ago

> ’m guessing FemaleYid means White Feminism™ in its most abysmally useless form?

Oh it’s quite useful…for female plutocrats and heiresses that is.

Class is the ultimate oppression, and women as a whole are worse off since the neoliberal reforms of the eighties.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
3 years ago

@ hexum7

or try to have some empathy about whatever drives this shit

I’m generally in favour of rehabilitation as a concept. However when it comes to the MRAlt-Right crowd I’m reminded of ‘Day of the Dead’ and that scientist guy who experiments with trying to rehabilitate zombies. It’s like “Well that’s all very interesting, but what’s the frikkin point?”

In both cases it’s just a waste of time. It may be that, with lots of effort, you can marginally get through to a few aberrant individuals, but on a global scale it’s just not worth it. You’re better off utilising your resources on anti zombie tactics.

LindsayIrene
3 years ago

Class is the ultimate oppression

And yet you love using a classist insult.

Troubelle: Moonbeam Malcontent + Bard of the New Movement
Troubelle: Moonbeam Malcontent + Bard of the New Movement
3 years ago

I’d advise aiming your punches up rather than down, @FemaleYid.

kupo
kupo
3 years ago

@Alan
Imma readying my anti-zombie defenses!

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…oh, I guess cardboard doesn’t contain them after all.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
3 years ago

Wow, that is one scary cat; cute rhinarium though.

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

Sigh. I guess we were die for a “class is the only oppression” troll. What I wouldn’t give for a troll who thinks Russian and Spanish share the same alphabet or a troll who thinks feminists are jealous of Hello Kitty instead.

I’d even settle for an MRAL sock.

kupo
kupo
3 years ago

Nah, I’m jealous of chococat. Hello kitty isn’t even the best Sanrio.

Hexum7
Hexum7
3 years ago

Troubelle- kindly not do what? Express my opinion? Try to add something that people seem not to want to consider into the conversation.

Wierwood- I wasn’t suggesting that we try to “fix” this guy, or even guys like him. But this is a systematic problem. Granted, RoK writers are not exactly in tune with the way much of society thinks- but they aren’t that far, either. It’s just a cartoony exaggerated version of how men are taught to be- not a fringe ideology

Troubelle: Moonbeam Malcontent + Bard of the New Movement
Troubelle: Moonbeam Malcontent + Bard of the New Movement
3 years ago

…Stand back.

-inhale-

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Scildfreja Unnyðnes
Scildfreja Unnyðnes
3 years ago

@Hexum7, let me try to explain the reaction you’re getting, my duck! There’s a good reason for it, and I don’t think you’re getting it.

Do hold tight, I have to be AFK awhile, but I will give you the deets on why your benign comment was not greeted as warmly as you had hoped! Will post in a little bit.

PeeVee the (Perpetually Ignored, Invisible but Noice) Sarcastic
PeeVee the (Perpetually Ignored, Invisible but Noice) Sarcastic
3 years ago

WWTH, my spidey senses are tingling, also.

I wonder what Owly is up to, these days?

Especially with the “get over yourself” comment.

Troubelle, I love it when you nyoom. It makes me giggle every time.

Pagan Reader - Misandrist Spinster

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The Adjunct
The Adjunct
3 years ago

Alex, I’ll take, “Condescending and belittling comments for $1000”:

kupo, please chill. I just asked you a question- one which wouldn’t have required more than a one word answer, not to tutor me. Sheesh

Never mind “chilling”, must already be cold up on that high horse

Oh, oh, oh, I know this one!

What is tone policing?

Did I win?

Shadowplay
3 years ago

@Hexum

Troubelle- kindly not do what?

Since no one has answered you as yet, and while waiting for Scild to give you the low down –

Don’t tell folk to chill.

It is not a good thing, for several reasons.

Scildfreja Unnyðnes
Scildfreja Unnyðnes
3 years ago

@Hexum7, I am back, and sorry for the delay. I’ll give you the explanation. It’s brief! It’s also my own, and others may have different ones, but I like mine.

(might get a little trigger’y (TW: Abuse) near the end, my ducks)

Women been told from birth that they need to consider the feelings of others before their own. It’s practically the definition of “a good woman”. This is basically the way that patriarchy begins molding girls into secondary people, subservient to men. It’s what women are told to be their entire lives.

This training from an early age creates vulnerabilities that abusers use to exploit women. It creates implicit relationships which form the core of the imbalanced sexism that’s at the core of the traditional social dynamic. In short, it’s one of the vital organs of the body of patriarchy.

So – I mean, you’re right. These MRAs and PUAs and Alt-Right Incel garbos are human, and it’s sad what happened to them. The same patriarchal structure that crushes women also twists men, and it’s a shuddering shame. That’s true, and no exaggeration.

But you won’t get much sympathy for them here, nor should you ask for or expect it. The legacy of harms done to women from literally before they can understand speech makes every woman carry some measure of trauma from the expectation of empathy-on-demand. Feeling sorry for the schoolyard bully is okay, but perhaps not what to lead with when your audience is their targets.

Don’t feel bad. Intersectionality’s hard, my duck. We all have to come to terms with the fact that we have a limited view of perceptions outside of our own. Heaven knows I’ve had a heck of a hard time with it! I hope that you can grapple with it and come out on top.

Sorry if that came off a bit preachy! Not quite long enough for fluttershy gifs, though. Sorry.