By David Futrelle
FADE IN
INT. DEPARTMENT OF MOTOR VEHICLES
WOMAN WAITING IN LINE TO RENEW DRIVERS LICENSE:
Dude, could you maybe stop blatantly staring at my boobs?
GUY WHO JUST WROTE A 1000-WORD POST FOR RETURN OF KINGS TITLED “THERE’S NOTHING WRONG WITH STARING AT A WOMAN’S BREASTS”
This boils down to slandering healthy male sexuality as if there’s something abnormal in a man who feels sexual desire towards a beautiful woman and likes boobs and firm butts. The reality, of course, is that nothing could be more normal than this …
But even this mere feeling of desire and sexual interest towards women is slandered and labeled as something questionable these days. …
Why do people propagate this message so eagerly these days? I can only guess, but it seems quite clear to me that these people feel some kind of fear towards male sexuality. The male sexual desire itself is somehow scary or dangerous and should be denigrated and slandered so that men would begin to feel shame about their completely healthy desires.
In a certain way, these people want to castrate men: make men into sheepish “gentlemen” who no longer look women with “greedy eyes” and feel sexual desire towards them, or who at least are ashamed of it and keep it to themselves. This is a form of psychological castration and I can only feel a strong sense of contempt towards people who propagate this bullshit. …
The message is a malicious attempt to slander and denigrate normal male sexuality. “Gentleman” here seems to be a man who doesn’t even feel sexual desire towards women anymore and never looks at women with “greedy eyes.” In other words, an abnormal castrate instead of a healthy man. What a truly despicable agenda!
GUY turns to look at woman. She is gone. Everyone else is gone. He is locked inside the now-closed DMV.
FADE OUT
@Kat
Probably that white genocide we keep hearing about.
@Pie
Mmm-hmm.
*Donald Trump peers and points at solar eclipse from White House balcony*
(Sorry)
I don’t think this jerk has been shamed – I think he has a massive sense of entitlement and resents being called on it by someone he considers inferior.
And dudes, even if you’re subtle about it, we now when you’re staring!
I go by train and bus to work. Morning is fine. I travel very early, so most people are half asleep anyway.
Afternoon, however?
Oh boy. Plenty of creeps of all ages abound.
…and if he sees his shadow, we get 3 more years of fascism.
For a lot of these dudes, the staring *is* the sexuality. If they have to quietly appreciate boobs like mature adults, how will other dudes in the vicinity know he’s the alphaiest alfalfa, and how will the girl know she’s just a piece of meat for his greedy consumption? (Particularly important when she needs to be knocked down a peg, eg at work, going to school, on the street, etc) How will anyone know his boner is the most important thing in the room?
Nope, healthy male sexuality requires visible steam and horns going “Ah-OOO-ga!” It has to have an audience, otherwise it won’t get a cookie.
*sigh*
… and this is, what, bad?? drop the false equivalencies about “castration” and “ashamed”, and you’ve asked men to be decent and respectful… the horror….
Hi, Troubelle!!
Hello.
> Weirdwoodtreehugger
Is it what is called “Stare wars” ?
And when speaking about man creepily staring at woman, that always makes me think about the Tex Avery Wolf. Stare and catcalling.
http://nsa39.casimages.com/img/2018/02/19/180219034455260858.jpg
Have a nice day.
I agree with Buttercup. It’s all about the swagger and the “notice me! Notice me noticing you!” with these guys.
I don’t want to know what it’s like to be so one-sided when it comes to sex. Part of the charge for me is knowing that my attentions are desired, that my enthusiastic consent is part of the fun, and that Mr. Parasol wants me to know I’m the woman he wants to get snuggly with (to put it politely) for the rest of our lives. It’s a dialogue, and only part of it is verbal.
Dude; like what you like, feel what you feel. Just drop the entitlement and don’t be a jerk about it.
….I like boobs too but you know you could respect the people attached to them. Just a thought.
WHAT??!!!
Don’t be such a beta cuck. If you go respecting them, next thing you know you’re listening to their crap. Maybe even, Barkow forbid, feeling empathy! That’s no way to get your dick wet, boy.
*wanders off to lift.
Edit to add, since things have been a little tense: the above is sarcasm.
If a man cannot bear
Being called out for his stare
Towards someone, holding untoward intent
Then perhaps it is best
Not to claim it was in jest
Nor actually the sign of a gracious gent
Let alone claim it’s castration
Suppose this is the state of the nation
When a fellow stares about
Feel free to give a shout
Calling for the one in question to get bent
I’ve never heard of “generational dysfunction” before. Why are you asking me? Because I asked you to please not evaluate that dude’s looks in that other thread? I’m not the decider of community rules. If you have a question for the community, ask the community.
It seems like a sizable chunk of right-wing bullshit – the supposed affront of “political correctness,” the raging misogyny, and their incredible fragility when being called out for their crap, specifically – seems to have some basis in a deep desire to deny basic courtesy and understanding to entire classes of people while requiring that those classes of people extend them extreme courtesy and understanding.
It’s all rooted in conspicuous displays of power, of course, but the courtesy angle of those displays is catching my eye of late….
…and I’m very glad you’re feeling well enough to come back, David.
@Hexum7
It’s not that he’s been shamed, it’s that he hasn’t been shamed enough and feels he has the right to assert dominance over women’s bodies because women have dared not to suck his cock.
This is a feature of many of these limerent misogynists. Women don’t date me therefore there’s something wrong with women and not me. Typical male entitlement.
@Gaebolga
It’s more about political elites wanting to play the proles against each other in the oldest way possible: make them feel superior because of their race or nationality.
Lots of these idiots are very below average in every single way and seek to regain some of their lost glory through demonizing minorities and women.
As Lenin said, fascism is capitalism in decay. This resurgence in far-right activity correlates with massive increases in economic inequality. The proles can’t revolt against their masters, so they need an outlet.
@Female Yid
Good point; thank you for bringing it up.
Fragile egos enflamed by political mercenaries in service of insatiable plutocrats – what could possibly go wrong?
Telling dudes to not stare at boobs is basically castration, says the guy angrily staring at boobs and wondering why the women they’re attached to don’t want to give him the time of day.
He just wants ownership of something he thinks he deserves. Not for a relationship, or for sex, even. He wants the status of having a woman. It’s a social hierarchy thing. Just like @Gaebolga said,
It’s hierarchical. Men-who-have-women occupy a higher social tier than men-who-are-single. He thinks he deserves to be on that higher tier, and he’s being blocked – by a woman, who he thinks is on an even lower social tier than he is. So it’s wrong, and an affront.
That’s all it is, and it’s all the right-wing bullshit is, too. Anger against political correctness? My social tier is higher than theirs, I shouldn’t have to be nice. Misogyny, racism? I occupy a higher tier. They should be nice to me, not the other way around. Where’s my mint julep.
This sort of misogyny, racism, blind anger? It’s all social positioning garbage. They were raised to believe they should hold a higher social position than they do, and they’re angry about it. And yeah, plutocrats can use that to *great* effect.
As a follow-up, and sort of digression, it’s sort of funny how much stronger social awareness right wing jerkbutts have than they care to admit. They all claim that they don’t care what other people think about, but their public perception is such a huge motivation for almost all of their positions.
Gun rights? All about being seen as strong and independent of others. Anti-choice demonstrations? Public profession of religious faith. Anti-environmentalism? See gun rights. Pro-capitalism to the point of self-destruction? See gun rights. Anti-education? Strong/independent perception, plus religious profession.
The people who believe those things have reasons for believing them, but they’re empty reasons. Any time you drill into them and start asking hard questions about efficacy and morality, they fall apart, fall back on insults and blame-shifting. Their positions feel like they’re just about declaring how tough and strong and independent they are, how they don’t need help, and how chosen they are. How entitled. Something-something-virtue-signal.
My homework will be finding out whether that’s true, and whether we lefties are as guilty of it as they are.
I’m a simple man.
If they showie, I lookie.
@ female yid
Hi, not sure if I’ve seen you around before, so welcome (if you’ve been posting for ages ‘hi again!’)
I’m not sure I’m convinced by this. I seem to recall that, generally, right wingers are better off than left wingers. Thank to Kupo for digging me out the link below.
https://ropercenter.cornell.edu/polls/us-elections/how-groups-voted/groups-voted-2016/
I would agree though that people exploit supposed ‘economic anxiety’ to promote or excuse fascism.
Did you not realize that breasts are not retractable? They are there and visible. Nothing we can do about it. Existing in public as a person who happens to have breasts is not an invitation to stare.
@Cartman, please propel your penis report directly into the sun. Thanks!
@Alan, @Yid, #EconomicInsecurity,
It’s sort of a clever phrase, that. The right-wingers (I prefer to pronounce it as ‘right-whinge’rs) are more financially secure, but they feel insecure, because their middle-class mayonnaise is starting to slip down into the same tier as the poor people and minorities.
They’re scared, ’cause they’re starting to see what life’s like for people who don’t have it as good as they do. And they don’t deserve it, see; they’re supposed to be on a higher social tier.
Interesting how descriptive the social hierarchy explanation can be. Suggests it may be too broad. Hm. More thinking is required.
EDIT: I did a peek through the archives for Cartman; he’s commented for some time here but always with glib one-liners that don’t contribute anything. Normally I wouldn’t care about that, but with a crass “i like boobies” like that I’d like to call a troll challenge. Tell us why you think it’s a good idea to show up and say “I like lookin at boobies” on this post, @Cartman! Don’t be shy!
What @WWTH said times a million