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On Gab, some are blaming yesterday’s school shooting — by a possible white supremacist — on the Jews

The accused shooter in a school yearbook picture

By David Futrelle

On Gab — the “free speech” social media site that has become something of a haven for the internet’s worst people — some of the regulars have come up with a rather inventive explanation for the Parkland, Florida school shooting yesterday that left 17 dead. It’s all the fault of the Jews.

Never mind that an explicitly fascist group claims the accused shooter, 19-year-old Nikolas Cruz, as a member, and says he participated in their paramilitary training exercises. As some of the best minds on Gab see it, Cruz is actually the puppet of a vast Jewish conspiracy — and probably a Jew himself.

Their evidence? The fact that Cruz is such a well-known Jewish surname.

Wait, what?

baeumler @baeumler PRO an hour Was the Florida Shooter Jewish? That appears to be the case. As his last name--from adopted family--is Cruz, which is a Jewish surname. Add in his middle name, Jacob, which is definitely Jewish and it looks like Nicholas Jacob Cruz is a Jew and not a white boy. Jacob is a popular Jewish name, since he was a patriarch.

While Cruz isn’t probably the first surname one thinks of when one thinks about Jewish surnames, there were some Spanish Jews who adopted the name to hide their Jewishness from the authorities … during the Spanish Inquisition. 500 years ago.

That of course isn’t proof that Cruz himself was Jewish.

Also, he was adopted.

But more than a few on Gab have something of a vested interest in trying to blame yesterday’s horrific carnage on a Jew or the Jews.  See if you can figure out what the hidden agenda is as you scroll through these lightly censored comments from a fellow who calls himself DrGasChamber.

 Dindu Nuffin @DrGasChamber 3 hours · in Florida School Shooting And schlomo news says... it's a white working with us far right evil nazi racist bigots! Oy Vey! This kike fake shooter isn't white and the jews need gas!

Dindu Nuffin @DrGasChamber 4 hours · in Florida School Shooting It's most likely another false flag using a jew that looks white and a fake name cruz... it's an attack on our liberty and freedom on #2a and bring more whites to cuck shsme and turn in guns to the kike patrol

Dindu Nuffin @DrGasChamber 7 hours · in BritFam For sure... and kikeservatives will go along with jew propaganda and not research cruz is a converted jew name most likely very common and the only people kikes fear are white.. so lets put more white shame on to all and take these guns away.. but most likely this mossad agent was armed by atf fbi or cia

A Gabber called stevec, meanwhile, isn’t completely sure there even was a shooting yesterday. But whatever happened, he’s pretty sure Jews are to blame.

 stevec @steve45 18 hours · in Valentine’s Day 2018 Valentine's Day Massacre in Parkland. Shooter is a Jew, Local Sheriff is a Jew, Local FBI agent in Charge is a Jew, near Boca Ratan, aka Jew central. I smell a FBI/Mossad black op. Did people really die, or was this just another drill, hoax false flag. Kid's shrink was probably his doper and handler. Jews always get 'even' on days of Christian Celebration.

 stevec @steve45 4 hours · in Florida School Shooting If someone was killed, which I highly doubt given all the fake wounds we saw being carried out, like a drill, this autistic Jew, Nick Cruz, did not do it, but pro shooters were used. Probably contract killers. The CIA/FBI use Mossad hit men often or Mafia (Mossad in drag). Filthy dirty local Jewish FBI 'agent in charge' either as fail or active participant in ff.

stevec @steve45 2 hours · in Florida School Shooting · edited lots of jewish victims start to emerge like jewish crisis actors, jewish fbi agents, jewish, sheriff, jewish mayor. jewish hero football coach. i sense a pattern here at at last. this is another darn holohoax.

stevec @steve45 3 hours · in Florida School Shooting Gab is full of so many unread people, why bother. Cruz is a name often taken by Sephardic Jews after they converted or faked conversion to Christianity. His features are typical of a Sephardic Jew. Quit blaming Hispanics.

One commenter, the not-so-accurately named @NameTheJew, even made a little meme.

And no, there is no evidence that Elliot Rodger — that’s him on the left — was Jewish either.

Needless to say, not everyone on Gab blames the Jews for whatever they think happened in Parkland Florida yesterday. A fellow called Pho Chan, for example, had a rather different take on the Jewish Question.

Pho Chan @phochanpol 2 hours · in Florida School Shooting Seeing the names of the victims, a lot of them echoes, and look very jewy, not sure if any of them was a real white (swimmer guy probably), there were also lot of spics, also one mud & one chink. Considering kikes are only 2% in USA, and more than one of them are definite jews, and nearly half of the killed definite breeding age non-whites, this spic shooter did well.

Lovely.

For more on Nikolas Cruz, a possible incel who has been hailed by incels online as an Elliot Rodger style hero, see my post yesterday.

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Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
6 years ago

Is anyone else watching curling? I think I like curling. Though when I yell “hurry hard” at the cats they just look at me funny.

Not me. I’m proofreading — or at least, I should be. Hello to your kitties! I’ve missed hearing about them.

Back to proofreading.

Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
6 years ago

FWIW, I think that abars01 was using a common expression instead of actually questioning David’s choice of topic.

abars01
abars01
6 years ago

God, if I’d known a two sentence post would lead to all this… No more posts about this from me. Like I said, it’s turning/has already turned into a flame war.

Shadowplay
6 years ago

The republicans have finally realised that maybe the CDC should be allowed to research gun violence.

It’s complete deflection from, you know, doing anything, but it’s an admission there is a problem at least.

opposablethumbs
opposablethumbs
6 years ago

Curling is … lawn bowling except on ice and with brooms, right? ::runs away::

::sneaks back:: and isn’t Men With Brooms the greatest title for a film involving curling? ::sneaks out again::

Knitting Cat Lady
Knitting Cat Lady
6 years ago

We have a similar sport to Curling in the Alps. We need way less equipment for that…

Croquembouche, extrenely mamal omen
Croquembouche, extrenely mamal omen
6 years ago

Abars01,

I can’t help it if my choice of words isn’t 100% perfect in every instance.

No, but when someone points out a problem with your choice of words (or the apparent meaning behind them) , you can take it on board, rather than doubling down, and issuing a nonpology.
That’s another piece of feedback for you.

Shadowplay
6 years ago

In related news:

Some 14 year old dolt posts that he could beat the casualty figures from the Florida shooting on snapchat.

Instant arrest, detained, felony charge.

Moggie
Moggie
6 years ago

WWTH:

So we’ve got a guy who’s known for partner violence and for being a white supremacist. His social media postings show that he’s been premeditating this for months. Defaulting to mental illness just doesn’t even make any sense.

It makes perfect sense as a deflection tactic, though.

Nequam
Nequam
6 years ago

@David: I like curling. It’s fuckin’ METAL.

Mish of the Catlady Ascendancy
Mish of the Catlady Ascendancy
6 years ago

@PeeVee,
Please take care and hold on, sweetheart ?

If I see one more tweet about mentally ill people being violent, I’ll… go sit my mentally ill self down in a corner ?

Speaking of people rushing to lay blame, I know some Mammotheers have already mentioned Infowars, but one of their “reporters” has really gone the distance trying to pin blame on a leftie – to the extent that they visually ID’d the wrong person as the shooter (a young guy from New Hampshire, named and all. I hope he sues them).

Respectable Lawyer on Twitter has done an excellent piece-by-piece take-down.

Weird (thumper of trumpanzees) Eddie
Weird (thumper of trumpanzees) Eddie
6 years ago

@ PeeVee

yeah, that. all of it. hugs if you want them

hatred is not a mental illness
bigotry is not a mental illness
entitlement is not a mental illness

@ the people who are SUPPOSED to be governing, we know you aren’t going to do anything about the guns, because, y’know, it’s not guns, it’s “mental illness”… SO WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT MENTAL ILLNESS?????

yeah… we know, you’re not going to do anything about that, either

Nanny Oggs Bosom
Nanny Oggs Bosom
6 years ago

Before it hit international news reports I saw a tweet from a scared kid inside the school as the shooting was happening. He was terrified and locked in classroom with other students, hiding from the shooter. People were replying to his tweets to let him know what was happening outside.

How anyone can see the footage and these tweets, from people actually there, and say ‘false flag’/didn’t happen/probably not that bad etc. has the emotional development of a stone.

Actually, that’s an insult to all lithic formations, I know some very emotionally intelligent and empathic rocks.

Also adding to the irritation at the ‘mental illness’ blame. Especially since this dude clearly has a violent history. He’s an entitled brat, not mentally ill.

Also, Hi David, glad you’re back! Hope you’re feeling better.

Moon_custafer
Moon_custafer
6 years ago

Also saw someone note this morning that the student body is something like 40% Jewish, which given the shooter’s affilations, makes it far more likely to be an anti-Semitic attack (at least in part – don’t know if he targeted specific individuals once he began firing) than a “false flag.”

Moon_custafer
Moon_custafer
6 years ago

If I see one more tweet about mentally ill people being violent, I’ll… go sit my mentally ill self down in a corner

My spouse has struggled with quite severe mental health problems since before I met him, and he’s far more likely to be the one trying to protect people — years ago when he worked in daycare, he had to keep a bunch of kids and several parents calm during a lockdown (fortunately the “shooter” in that case turned out to be three kids with a marble slingshot).

Victorious Parasol
Victorious Parasol
6 years ago

Men with Brooms is a fun movie that helped me appreciate curling. Though they shouldn’t have repeated that silly claim about being able to see the Great China Wall from space.

Regarding the anti-Semitism described in this post … yeah. If he were dark-skinned, they would’ve called him a Muslim or a [slur for African-American] or whatever. Anything to deny that this person qualified for membership in their group.

PeeVee the Tired
PeeVee the Tired
6 years ago

Mish,

You follow Respectable Lawyer, too? We follow the best people. ?

Thank you.

Weird Eddie, thank you, also.

Weird (thumper of trumpanzees) Eddie
Weird (thumper of trumpanzees) Eddie
6 years ago

re: “false flag”… hey, we need proof

Categories of proof:

1) “… somebody somewhere saw a Craig’s List ad” (from the George Soros fantasies)
2) “… how else do you explain the shadow in this picture?” (from the Sandy Hook was faked fantasy)
3) “… everybody knows buildings don’t collapse like that” (from the 9-11 was an inside job fantasy)
4) “… the reflections in the face shields don’t look right” (from the We never went to the moon fantasy)

note: “… everybody knows” can be used to prove anything, just as “… nuh-uh” can be used to disprove anything

… Right-Wing Logic: helping 5-year-olds explain how the window in the front room got broken for DECADES!!!!

bluecat
bluecat
6 years ago

Today I learned

Valentine’s Day is a “Christian festival”

Cruz is “A Jewish name”

and there is no depths to which white supremacist racists won’t sink… but that I knew.

Katamount (formerly Gussie Jives)
Katamount (formerly Gussie Jives)
6 years ago

Preach it, PeeVee. Can’t help but think of that scene in The Green Mile where Percy deliberately keeps the sponge dry and once he is sickened by the horror he’s unleashed and turns around, Tom Hanks grabs him by the neck and says “You watch, you son of a b*tch!”

I realize it might be wishful thinking, but this might actually be the event that forces a change. The six-year-olds at Sandy Hook didn’t have smartphones. Pulse was too dark. Vegas shooting was too open. But media-savvy teenagers who recorded this event sending their videos and pictures and sound to other media-savvy teenagers across the nation and inundating lawmakers just might crack that NRA money barrier.

It’s all I can hope….

Redsilkphoenix: Jetpack Vixen, Agent of the FemiNest Collective; Keeper of a Hell Toupee, and all-around Intergalactic Meanie
Redsilkphoenix: Jetpack Vixen, Agent of the FemiNest Collective; Keeper of a Hell Toupee, and all-around Intergalactic Meanie
6 years ago

@Bluecat,

Ash Wednesday, the start of the 40-day Lent period leading up to Easter, fell on Valentine Day this year. That’s what the Nazi dude was referring to.

Don’t know how many of the Protestant Christian sects follow Lent, though, if any. I was under the impression that only Roman Catholics – and maybe the various Orthodox churches – celebrated it at all. And since in this country the only True Christians(c)(tm) are Protestant, well, not sure how any of this is ‘a strike’ against them.

ETA: Or maybe the Nazi tweeter really does see Valentines Day as a primarily Christian holiday. Weirder beliefs have existed.

PeeVee the (Perpetually Ignored, Invisible but Noice) Sarcastic
PeeVee the (Perpetually Ignored, Invisible but Noice) Sarcastic
6 years ago

Thanks, all. I’m still so pissed.

When the Onion makes more sense:

https://www.theonion.com/it-s-an-honor-to-continue-being-valued-over-countless-h-1819585030

Re: St. Valentines Day:

Valentine’s Day, also called Saint Valentine’s Day or the Feast of Saint Valentine,[1] is celebrated annually on February 14. Originating as a Western Christianfeast day honoring one or two early saints named Valentinus, Valentine’s Day is recognized as a significant cultural, religious and commercial celebration of romance and romantic love in many regions around the world, although it’s not a public holiday in any country. – Wiki

Lent starts on Ash Wednesday, but that doesn’t necessarily mean Valentine’s Day. It changes yearly.

mrex
mrex
6 years ago

@WWTH @abars01

” But if you’re really this determined to attempt to gaslight me into accepting that I’m just somehow taking you as rude, I’ll dig the receipts up.”

A. Abars actually pissed me off in the other thread stating that they thought David was dead/terminally ill, (when David’s been ou and about over the past several months), so WWTH you aren’t the only one who finds abar’s statements initially offputting.

B. With that being said, “I didn’t mean it like that” (which is what I got out if abar’s response) is not gaslighting. No-one but abars knows what they meant. It is possible for two people to look at the same statement, and see two totally different things. Disagreeing obviously is not gaslighting.

C. In conclusion, you BOTH are right. Let’s sing kumbuya.

RE: Is the school shooter mentally ill, or an entitled brat?

In this case he’s BOTH. Not all school shooters are mentally ill, but this one is.
The point should be is that his mental illness is about as relevent as his brown hair. He CHOSE to be violent.

Everyone has their own crosses to bear, “mentally ill” or not. Maybe people with a mental illness may have heavier crosses to bear, but they still CHOOSE how to deal with them. Someone with a heavy cross could CHOOSE to deal with their pain with dignity, while someone with a light cross could CHOOSE to deal with it like an entitled brat. It all comes down to character.

TL;DR

Mental illness doesn’t give someone a bad character, and mental health doesn’t give someone a good one. And vice-versa.

Valentin - Emigrantski Ragamuffin
Valentin - Emigrantski Ragamuffin
6 years ago

I learned that Saint Valentine is saint of epilepsy and plague – well someone on Twitter said this, so it definately is true ?