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Merry Christmas, if you’re into that sort of thing!

Hope you all are having a lovely day today, whatever this day means to you (or doesn’t). Consider this an open thread, to discuss whatever, from presents to politics to cats to whatever holiday stress you might be feeling.

And here’s some stuff I found on the Twitter.

— David, who is hanging in there

https://twitter.com/awwcuteness/status/945193410662682624

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calmdown
calmdown
6 years ago

Please do take care of yourself and get some rest! I really hope things get better for you.

Z&T
Z&T
6 years ago

@ calmdown,

Thank you for your thoughts, really does mean a lot 🙂

Was very happy to see this, thank you 🙂

Helps me to keep my grip here.

I do have somewhat of a hard time talking about such things, the way I was raised, to put it simply, was almost “militaristic”. Work work work. And you NEVER complain, you NEVER show any emotion (you shouldn’t have an emotions anyway), you will be stoic at all times, and always self sufficient. It was too harsh.
But they had hard lives too, so I try to understand.

About my recently passed mom, she was trained the same way, which I try to be understanding of. And we did have a much better relationship in later years. I think she came to understand too, that this isn’t the way to go.

Thanks again, all,
For listening to my thoughts. And your understanding. It really does mean a lot to me 🙂

Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
6 years ago

If there’s any justice in this world, Tarantino is done.

Here’s Audio of Quentin Tarantino Defending Roman Polanski: 13-Year-Old Girl ‘Wanted to Have It’

https://jezebel.com/heres-audio-of-quentin-tarantino-defending-roman-polans-1822745916

Mish of the Catlady Ascendancy
Mish of the Catlady Ascendancy
6 years ago

@Kat,
Great minds and all … I posted that here yesterday ?
I couldn’t listen to the whole thing, not yet anyway. I actually like QT (well, the early stuff). Feel sick and disappointed.

Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
6 years ago

@Z&T
Hang in there.

And take good care of yourself.

Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
6 years ago

@Mish
Oops! In my own defense, I will say that you did distract me with photos of two of your very beautiful cats.

Shadowplay
Shadowplay
6 years ago

@Z&T

Hang in there, please. Everything passes, given time. So will your streak of bad problems.

Mish of the Catlady Ascendancy
Mish of the Catlady Ascendancy
6 years ago

@Kat,

That was a very slick save ?
Seriously tho, I wasn’t complaining; this is a significant story, and I only saw it yesterday. Someone commented on Twitter that it’s odd how all these guys yell about how awful paedophilia is, but when a person they like openly defends it … that’s a different story. Indeed.

I would also like to say that @SFHC’s tweet, and the responses to it here, were fab-u-lous and I enjoyed them immensely.

Mish of the Catlady Ascendancy
Mish of the Catlady Ascendancy
6 years ago

Our old pal Carl of Swindon has gotten a tad upset with the alt-right. There’s stupid, horrible stuff (“you’re acting like white n*****s”), but what made me laugh out loud and startled the cats was this:

Do you not think we should have a level of decorum in personal interactions?

and this:

You understand I’m a person, don’t you? … I’m being treated like I’m not a person!

Valentin - Emigrantski Ragamuffin
Valentin - Emigrantski Ragamuffin
6 years ago

sargon of akkad is fucking disgraceful

Shadowplay
Shadowplay
6 years ago

I dislike twitter. 🙁

Finally signed up. Followed a couple people (David and Didi :P). Started hunting around for a nice picture for my profile and …

Account locked. Please provide phone number.

I do NOT give out my phone number to anyone. It’s for emergency contact only by a very few trusted people.

*doesn’t do 21st Century very well* 😛

Valentin - Emigrantski Ragamuffin
Valentin - Emigrantski Ragamuffin
6 years ago

Twitter is not worth it. you think arguing on mammoth is bad? just forget Twitter! it is awful! I use it for politics, plenty about Russian occupation of Ukraine. this is big long complicated issue but in every arguement they call me Ukrainian Nazi or Russian Shill. how I can be both?! ? there is no nuance! every arguement is like a dead-end road.

Shadowplay
Shadowplay
6 years ago

Was only planning on using it for news really – maybe the odd reply to someone, or tweeting out some writing from time to time ( I have a derelict site I’m thinking of restarting. Like writing and now have a little time to do so).

I’ve put in an appeal (kind of curious how they’d text message a land line anyways 😛 )

Scildfreja Unnyðnes
Scildfreja Unnyðnes
6 years ago

<3 Z&T. I know those feels. We're here for you, so don't you apologize if you have to unload a bit of mental weight. You're allowed to here. The difficulty in always having to be productive, helpful, and happy is crushing. You can be angry and depressed here, you’re allowed to show those things. No need to hide it.

Society is so messed up when it comes to expressing emotions. And you’re right, it’s both men and women who carry that particular burden. We’ve all got that in us, driven in as children. Excising it is the work of a lifetime.

You’re doing just fine my duck. Keep going. It gets better. <3

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Jo
Jo
6 years ago

It’s good to see David posting comments, I’ve been genuinely concerned about him. With this post having 37 pages of comments, which is more than I have time to read, is there any discussion of the future of WHTM anyone could point me to?

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

You understand I’m a person, don’t you? … I’m being treated like I’m not a person!

Any chance he’ll make that leap and think “hey, maybe this is what those SJWs are talking about when they speak of non cishet white men being dehumanized in various ways by the culture and by individuals! Perhaps they aren’t making it up or crazy or being special snowflakes?”

Nah.

Victorious Parasol
Victorious Parasol
6 years ago

Yeah, nah. His pain is special and unique because it is his. (Barbara Hambly did a great job portraying a Big Bad with this attitude in Traveling with the Dead, which I happen to be re-reading right now.)

Surplus to Requirements, Observer of the Vast Blight-Wing Enstupidation
Surplus to Requirements, Observer of the Vast Blight-Wing Enstupidation
6 years ago

Madison Avenue Giants Press for Better Portrayals of Women on TV

http://variety.com/2018/tv/news/advertisers-women-portrayals-tv-seeher-1202690316/

Needless to say, they have some actual clout with the networks and producers, so something might actually come of this.

Katamount (formerly Gussie Jives)
Katamount (formerly Gussie Jives)
6 years ago

Hey folks! Back from a colonoscopy break! Ah, the one thing where the preparation for the procedure is worse than the procedure itself. Man, it really knocks your body for loop… still feeling out of sorts this morning.

@Mish

Our old pal Carl of Swindon has gotten a tad upset with the alt-right.

Of course, not about anything that they’ve actually done, just in being too overt with their hate and breaking their “for the lulz” aura of plausible deniability.

All you gotta do is listen to Sargon’s Elliot Rodger apologia rant (“You’ve labeled [this Elliot Rodger apologist] a terrible person! That’s fucking awful!”) back to back with his yucking it up at the death of Heather from The Skeptic Feminist to see how two-faced that worm really is. He’s just a lazy grievance monger who honed the “smug British guy” accent to perfection.

I was thinking about the Gamergate-Alt-Right to White Supremacist pipeline the other day, and it really does start with the grievances against the same people. Some kid already raised on 4chan finding a guy who tells them that it really is feminists/PoC/the LGBT community taking their toys away is going to be drawn to anybody telling them that, be it Carl Benjamin or Richard Spencer. I’ve seen people like ArmouredSkeptic–a guy I actually used to watch before he went off on feminism–balk at being lumped in with the Neo-Nazis and White Supremacists, but I can’t take away the fact that they happen to point the finger at the same group of people for society’s ills. Greg hates BLM, Spencer hates BLM. Greg detests third wave feminists (read: all feminists), Anders Breivik hates third wave feminists.

Hate to break it to you, Carl and Greg, but this is something you’ve got in common with those folks with the swastika tattoos. Now if I learned that a group of society’s worst hatemongers shared an opinion with me, it would at least give me pause for concern. These guys have convinced themselves that the alternative (read: agreeing with SJWs) is far worse than taking a step back for self-reflection.

I’m not sure how it is these guys have compartmentalized their audience, but if I was a YouTuber and I saw a lot of “White Power” folks giving me likes and approving comments, it would make me sick to my stomach. Somehow these guys have separated themselves entirely from the audience they’ve cultivated and that’s a huge problem for the people they target.

mrex
mrex
6 years ago

Completely off topic, but I just read this article in Popular Science about how Babe Ruth’s cancer treatment paved the way for today’s cancer treatments, and personally I found it really interesting.

Ooglyboggles
Ooglyboggles
6 years ago

I look forward to Karl of Swindon turn into a nothingburger.

@Z&T
Keep on going buddy. We’re here for you whenever.

Katamount (formerly Gussie Jives)
Katamount (formerly Gussie Jives)
6 years ago

Yay, Ontario-io has fresh sexual harassers: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/steve-paikin-responds-to-sexual-harassment-allegations-1.4523469

I only watched a handful of Agenda clips in my time, but Paikin always seemed to rub me the wrong way. There was something off about his faux neutrality and he had hosted some terrible people (Karen Straughan leaps to mind). So when this news came out, I wasn’t exactly shocked that he was a terrible person too.

I gotta feel for Sarah Thomson. This is not the first time she’s had to deal with men behaving inappropriately: https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2013/03/08/rob_ford_sarah_thomson_accuses_toronto_mayor_of_inappropriate_touch_suggestive_remark.html

She’s no stranger to powerful a-holes.

Moon_custafer
Moon_custafer
6 years ago

Babe Ruth’s cancer treatment paved the way for today’s cancer treatments, and personally I found it really interesting.

Looking up other articles on Ruth’s chemo, I noticed that “The Babe Ruth Story,” rushed into production as he was dying, and considered the worst sports biopic ever made, ends with him agreeing to try a new experimental drug – and it does end there (well, it fades to a ball field and an uplifting statement), because he was still alive until a few weeks after the movie’s release. So that part of the movie, at least, was actually kind of accurate.

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