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Merry Christmas, if you’re into that sort of thing!

Hope you all are having a lovely day today, whatever this day means to you (or doesn’t). Consider this an open thread, to discuss whatever, from presents to politics to cats to whatever holiday stress you might be feeling.

And here’s some stuff I found on the Twitter.

— David, who is hanging in there

https://twitter.com/awwcuteness/status/945193410662682624

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Moggie
Moggie
6 years ago

RIP, Ingvar Kamprad, founder of Ikea. My living room would be mostly empty if it weren’t for your stuff. Here’s a song by JoCo.

Moggie
Moggie
6 years ago

To any lurking incels and the like: knowing your fetish for compliant Asian women, I thought you might be interested in this girlfriend for rent:

Contrapangloss
Contrapangloss
6 years ago

Z&T; I second the β€˜check the alternator’ advice. Only, if you have any spare cash and a buddy I’d recommend investing in a voltmeter and testing it yourself. You need the buddy because one of you has to run the voltmeter and the other the gas pedal.

It’s good you have a for sure good battery, because you can’t really test the alternator with a bad one.

The only reason I recommend testing it yourself was because I had a battery that went bad and the first battery/mechanic shop I wandered in to tried to special order me an alternator, and it was seriously just the battery.

Shadowplay
Shadowplay
6 years ago

If your car has a functional cigarette lighter or lighter sized power socket in the car (I know some don’t), you can get an alternator/battery tester that plugs into it. Costs under $10, is impossible to misuse, and is reliable enough to trust.

dust bunny
dust bunny
6 years ago

@ Shadowplay

Illusions is a perfect word for it, and it really pisses me off. If you’re reduced to taking credit for other peoples actions and abilities based on shared gender, or shared skin colour, or shared beliefs – you are wasting oxygen here.
It probably happens, but I’ve never really noticed women doing that. Only men. Don’t know if it’s observer effect – I just don’t notice women doing it – or something more (and am too lazy/busy to dig into it ? ).

It doesn’t really work for women, that’s probably why. Women are the unfavorable comparison group, the pool of people men get to feel superior to by virtue of being men. And there aren’t really any female-coded achievements you could brag about, either. Everything prestigious and competitive is male-coded. By pointing out the kinds of accomplishments that have historically only been possible for men (and if a woman did them anyway, she was quietly forgotten from history), what we’re saying at best is “women can do this stuff too, despite the fact that it’s male-coded in our culture”. That’s more an admission of defeat than a good counterargument, because misogynists don’t argue based on truth. They’re all about optics.

Women still do it to groups less privileged than themselves of course. I’ve seen a lot of white women feeling WHITE PRIDE feels, parroting Nazi talking points about race and intelligence, or about the supposedly superior history of “European culture” to others.
I’m sure TERFs could rub it in trans women’s faces that some cis women give birth, regardless of whether they’ve done it or intend to do it themselves.

In fact, that probably does happen.
Ugh. I wish I hadn’t thought about that, I feel soiled now.

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

I do like pointing out that women invented beer. Typically only when someone claims men invented everything so every woman owes every individual man thanks/sandwiches/blowjob though. Or when men act like women can’t appreciate beer.

Shadowplay
Shadowplay
6 years ago

@dust bunny

Thank you. That makes sense, unfortunately.

Sort of wondering if it isn’t a failure defense mechanism. No one wants to be a failure, and accepting that failing is gonna happen isn’t easily learned and accepted. πŸ˜›

And sorry about the thought it raised in you. That does happen. Seen it with my own eyes twice (and since I only know 2 trans women well enough to talk freely with in meatspace, it’s not exactly uncommon πŸ™ )

kupo
kupo
6 years ago

Women invented so many god damn things. Men always take credit. Always.

Moggie
Moggie
6 years ago

Shadowplay:

Sort of wondering if it isn’t a failure defense mechanism. No one wants to be a failure, and accepting that failing is gonna happen isn’t easily learned and accepted.

But it doesn’t work, does it? Boasting about the achievements of others as if you can share their glory really just exposes that you probably have no noteworthy achievements of your own to feel good about. The only people convinced by this effort are others as mediocre as the one attempting it. I suspect that even the self-professed mammoth-hunters and white supremacists mostly know, privately, that they’re not all that.

Shadowplay
Shadowplay
6 years ago

@Moggie

But it doesn’t work, does it?

You know, I really don’t know.

While I totally agree with what you say following that – they must get something out of it, or why do it?

I’m minded of the people who hold onto (and shove in your face) their family history – you know the type, you live here πŸ˜› – as something that somehow reflects on them. Nowt to do with them, really, since being born to a particular set of parents isn’t an achievement, yet it can be the entire center of their being.

dust bunny
dust bunny
6 years ago

@ Shadowplay

It’s for the best that I did think about it.
In hindsight, of course it’s really common, and it doesn’t just come from the relatively rare nulliparous TERFs but all cis women. I was just being clueless about the shittiness of cis women because I’m so comfortable in the closet that for nearly all intents and purposes, I’m one of them.

dust bunny
dust bunny
6 years ago

@ Moggie

It does work. That’s the world we live in. The only people they need to convince are those as mediocre as themselves. And don’t forget there’s some pretty talented and successful STEMlords among the people doing it.
In these people’s minds, if you look like you took the aggressive stance in a conversation, you “won” the conversation. Trying to reason with them is taking a defensive stance. Words have no content, it’s all about optics.

Moggie
Moggie
6 years ago

Yeah, I suppose my attempt to imagine myself in the position of people who behave this way is hampered by my depression. I’m used to feeling that I’m shit, so it’s hard for me to imagine unjustifiably high self esteem. But there’s plenty of the latter around, not just in the White House.

Z&T
Z&T
6 years ago

Thanks for the car thoughts all!

I was thinking sim, went into “don’t even think about that” mode of thought / denial, – because I had to.

And it does look like it was just the battery. Was fine today.
Just trying to keep the optimistic thoughts here.

I almost feel as if I’m losing it at times, am keeping the grip.
Oi.

I also had a bad flu, which seems to have resurfaced again, probably from me out walking around in the cold. oO

Things are fixed and functional right now πŸ™‚
I am trying to look at the upsides and keep a grip on myself.

Z&T
Z&T
6 years ago

DP

(my mouse is also not working right….)

VioletBeauregarde: Semi-Stable Genius of a Social Justice Necromancer
VioletBeauregarde: Semi-Stable Genius of a Social Justice Necromancer
6 years ago

@Kat: It’s good that cats know they’re cute…we all could use that kind of confidence.

numerobis
numerobis
6 years ago

Z&T: yay, we have a flat-battery club!

Today I started my car for the first time since Christmas.

It was a “simple” matter of taking the battery out, recharging it on the trickle charger (in a room the cats couldn’t get to, because I didn’t want to electrocute them), then putting the battery back in.

Simple in quotes because of course the relevant nuts were rusted. Also the battery was frozen solid (-30 C weather has a tendency to do that). Also the engine was encased in snow from all the blizzards that have blown by in the past month.

Maybe tomorrow I’ll even *move* the car. To the shop. To get a new battery and some more major fixes.

Diptych
Diptych
6 years ago

Our old car kept losing power – replacing the battery worked, but only temporarily. Turned out to be an old, worn-out belt that was too loose! Not sure if that would even apply to newer cars, but thought I’d share just in case.

(The engine was also infested with venomous spiders, but that’s another story.)

Z&T
Z&T
6 years ago

@ numerobis,

Yeah I hear you, was hoping maybe car, battery, were just cold.
Not.

@ Diptych,
Hear you on that too.

Our pal T here says: Don’t tell anyone you’re an engineer πŸ™‚

Yeah, really πŸ˜€
But so is she and did she fix my car? No.

Car electronics is beyond my scope of understanding.

Oi. At times, I wish I could go live in a cave….

I’m thinking of, once the money is straight and it’ll have to be used too – a truck. Anyone have any thoughts on a basic, smaller, but good in bad weather, pick up truck? In the $10K range? Or any kind of a “utility” vehicle? Any suggestions appreciated.

Shadowplay
Shadowplay
6 years ago

The alt Reich have noticed they have a branding problem. Now trying to call themselves the new right. All the boringly familiar faces from here (except Milo) are named.

Edit to add

@Z&T – sorry, don’t know the US market for cars, and the people I know who do know would give advice that relied on you being pretty good with the old spanners.

I will say – library. Chilton or Haynes manual for the vehicle you are interested in. For about 80% of wrenchwork needed on cars, if you can cook and follow a recipe, you can do the car work.

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

Kind of like the time Kentucky Fried Chicken changed its name to KFC and everyone forgot it was fried fast food and started thinking of it has a health food place.

Shadowplay
Shadowplay
6 years ago
Robert Walker-Smith
Robert Walker-Smith
6 years ago

Shadowplay – your observation about people who use their family history to lord it over others reminded me. I read years ago about a club for the descendants of famous people. Someone commented on the membership: “what a collection of anticlimaxes.”

If your biggest achievement was being born the child of your parents, you should follow Elan Sleazebaggano’s example and go home to reconsider your life.

Surplus to Requirements, Observer of the Vast Blight-Wing Enstupidation
Surplus to Requirements, Observer of the Vast Blight-Wing Enstupidation
6 years ago

Who is Elan Sleazebaggano? The guy in Attack of the Clones who tries to sell Obi-Wan “death sticks”?

Shadowplay
Shadowplay
6 years ago

Robert – love it! That is so accurate! πŸ™‚

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