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Merry Christmas, if you’re into that sort of thing!

Hope you all are having a lovely day today, whatever this day means to you (or doesn’t). Consider this an open thread, to discuss whatever, from presents to politics to cats to whatever holiday stress you might be feeling.

And here’s some stuff I found on the Twitter.

— David, who is hanging in there

https://twitter.com/awwcuteness/status/945193410662682624

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Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
6 years ago

I’m feeling a little more optimistic about treatment

Sounds good! All best wishes for a healthier you in the near future.

Mish of the Catlady Ascendancy
Mish of the Catlady Ascendancy
6 years ago

@David,

I’ve been trying to post something that has the right balance of:
1. we miss you – come back soon
with
2. we also don’t wish to pressure you – come back when you’re ready
????????
Good job, me. Much articulate.

Skiriki
Skiriki
6 years ago

*puts Big Boi on David’s head and tests if cute-o-therapy works*

Kitten has opened his teensyweensy eyes! Not completely, but he is definitely cracking them open and taking peeks at his surroundings!

opposablethumbs
opposablethumbs
6 years ago

the right balance of:
1. we miss you – come back soon
with
2. we also don’t wish to pressure you – come back when you’re ready

What Mish said.

Moggie
Moggie
6 years ago

I think that, subconsciously, I expected Ursula Le Guin to be around forever. Sometimes I’ll see the name of an old-timey SF/F writer, such as Harlan Ellison, and think “wow, they’re still around?” But never Le Guin, because the world needed her.

opposablethumbs
opposablethumbs
6 years ago

The One Who Wrote the Roads from Omelas :’-(

Sheila Crosby
6 years ago

Re Ursula LeGuin.

Damn. Damn. Damn. Damn. Damn. Damn. Damn. Damn. Damn.

I feel the way some Mammotheers felt about losing Bowie. She was 89, so it’s sort of to be expected. Still Damn. Damn. Damn.

My favourite of hers was “The Word for World is Forest”.

Damn.

Weird (and tired of trumplings) Eddie
Weird (and tired of trumplings) Eddie
6 years ago

Hugh Maskela died yesterday

Katamount (formerly Gussie Jives)
Katamount (formerly Gussie Jives)
6 years ago

Speaking of movies, there was a great quote I found on GamerGhazi about Iraq/Afghanistan movies like 12 Strong, apparently by Scottish comedian Frankie Boyle:

“Because not only will America go into your country and kill all your people, but what’s worse I think is they’ll come back twenty years later and make a movie about how killing your people made their soldiers feel sad.”

The Ghazi thread was about this Noah Berlatsky article on 12 Strong that I think sums up one of the major problems of war films in general: https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/12-strong-proves-hollywood-still-believes-only-american-lives-matter-ncna839081

It’s one thing if you’re doing a piece on WWI or WWII where war was openly declared, the US was a liberator (more WWII on that one) in a broader coalition and vast segments of the civilian population had fled (those who could at least). Contrast that with the slew of Vietnam era films, and they’re all about alienation and PTSD from the perspective of the American GI. The Vietnamese populace are little more than plot devices. Ditto Bush-era war films in Afghanistan and Iraq.

There’s an odd almost… cowardice for lack of a better word, a fear of confronting the complicity of the government and by extension the American people for their participation in the wars that left their own soldiers so damaged and hundreds of thousands of non-combatants dead in their wake. To an extent I can understand that the average movie-goer doesn’t want a character pointing at them and saying “You did this!” and yet that remains the subtext of any film that doesn’t glorify the soldier.

It’s just so telling that Hollywood (and the games industry) is still trying to wring nobility out of WWII when all their past colonial conflicts have fallen down the memory hole. I mean, you’d think Teddy Roosevelt and the Rough Riders would be ripe for an historical epic, but it’d go over about as well if Paul Gross followed up Passchendaele with a movie about the Boer War.

Moggie
Moggie
6 years ago

All American war movies are redundant after Starship Troopers, anyway.

Shadowplay
Shadowplay
6 years ago

@Mish

Good job, me. Much articulate.

Articulate or no, the sentiments expressed are perfect.

Moggie
Moggie
6 years ago

Katamount, thanks for linking to that Noah Berlatsky article: it was pretty good.

Dalillama: Irate Social Engineer

There’s an odd almost… cowardice for lack of a better word, a fear of confronting the complicity of the government and by extension the American people for their participation in the wars that left their own soldiers so damaged and hundreds of thousands of non-combatants dead in their wake. To an extent I can understand that the average movie-goer doesn’t want a character pointing at them and saying “You did this!” and yet that remains the subtext of any film that doesn’t glorify the soldier.

Possibly that’s because, even in spaces like this one, supposedly built entirely on progressive ideas, suggesting that an American soldier is less than a hero gets the same reaction as spitting on a crucifix in the Vatican.

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

If you want to pick an internet fight, please take it somewhere else.

Makroth - cowboy Jacobin from Hell
Makroth - cowboy Jacobin from Hell
6 years ago

@Katamount (formerly Gussie Jives)

May i suggest “Spec Ops: The line”? It’s a video game where you play a soldier and end up commiting a few atrocities. It does very much point a finger at you and tells you that you did this. In fact, one loading screen literally says: “This is all your fault”. I think it’s excellent despite the gameplay being a bit generic. I’m afraid i can’t think of any movies that do that.

Katamount (formerly Gussie Jives)
Katamount (formerly Gussie Jives)
6 years ago

@Dalilama

Exactly. As I was posting that, I kept hearing Buffy Ste. Marie’s “Universal Soldier” in my head.

But without him how would Hitler have condemned him at Le Val
Without him Caesar would have stood alone
He’s the one who gives his body as the weapon of the war
And without him all this killing can’t go on

He’s the universal soldier and he really is to blame
But his orders come from far away no more
They come from him and you and me
and brothers can’t you see
This is not the way we put an end to war?

…and that’s why Buffy is such a badass.

@Moggie

All American war movies are redundant after Starship Troopers, anyway.

Well, certainly most of them. The best war films I’ve seen were definitely made some time ago and by filmmakers of other nations (Das Boot, All Quiet On the Western Front, The Good, The Bad and The Ugly), but Hollywood did give us Casablanca and Dr. Strangelove. But to be honest, I’m not one for war films. Perhaps if there was a big budget dramatization of a particular battle that hadn’t been done before, I might see it just for the spectacle, but most of the battles that I would want to see dramatized have already been done for documentaries (Bannockburn, Culloden, Hastings) or in a Shakespeare adaptation (Agincourt, Bosworth Field). If there’s one untapped element for solid war films, it’s in naval battles–which I’m sure is untapped due to budget constraints. But seriously, you make a Hollywood blockbuster of Trafalgar, Salamis or Samar and I’m in that theatre so freakin’ fast! Or just remake Austerlitz or Waterloo, I’ll take either.

@Makroth

I’ve heard that Spec Ops: The Line is good… with my newly reset machine, I’m hard up for games, so perhaps ’tis time to check it out!

Valentin - Emigrantski Ragamuffin
Valentin - Emigrantski Ragamuffin
6 years ago

If you want to pick an internet fight, please take it somewhere else.

who is picking a fight? Their comment deleted already?

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

The comment right above me. It’s a passive aggressive attempt to restart an argument that happened about a year ago and I’m trying to nip it in the bud.

Fishy Goat
Fishy Goat
6 years ago

@Weird Eddie Well, that sucks. :/

Shadowplay
Shadowplay
6 years ago

Former USA Gymnastics and Michigan State University sports doctor Larry Nassar has been sentenced to 40 to 175 years in prison for the sexual assault of dozens of girls.

Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
6 years ago

Is anybody else kinda grossed out that Nassar got absolutely no media coverage whatso-fucking-ever until just this week? I follow this shit like a hawk and even I hadn’t heard about it until the Goddamn closing arguments, what the fuck.

And that’s before we get to all the brogressives on Twitter throwing tantrums because the meanie-pants judge is a woman insulted the poor innocent child rapist, how dare she, it’s not like judging criminals is her job or anything like that.

Shadowplay
Shadowplay
6 years ago

Is anybody else kinda grossed out that Nassar got absolutely no media coverage whatso-fucking-ever until just this week?

More at the pissed off end of that emotional spectrum, but know exactly what you mean.
Vaguely recalled him getting a long stretch for child porn last year, but about the multiple sexual assault thing – first I heard of it was Monday. 🙁

Katamount (formerly Gussie Jives)
Katamount (formerly Gussie Jives)
6 years ago

And in honour of the late great Ursula K. LeGuin, I’m linking this essay of hers that was just as profound when she wrote it in 1974, when I read it in 10th grade English class at the start of the Bush Presidency and in the alt-right infested America of 2018:

https://alllies.org/en/americans-afraid-dragons/

The one thing I don’t think LeGuin could have accounted for 40 years ago was the impact of the internet. The subject of this blog alone is a testament to the stunted emotional growth that renders certain man-children unable to separate fantasy from reality. But, all things being what they are, things are certainly better now than they were then, if our openness to imagination is any indication.

laserqueen
laserqueen
6 years ago

Certainly not much coverage in the US media- when he was first charged I read about it and no one I talked to had heard about it. Certainly no where near the coverage Penn State and Jerry Sandusky got. I’m really hoping for a complete leadership change for USOC, USGA, and Michigan State. The amount of looking the other way as well as full out enabling that happened in the pursuit of winning is thoroughly disgusting.

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