Merry Christmas, if you’re into that sort of thing!

Re: the Voter Fraud Commission being dissolved…

I can’t be the only one whose first thought on this was that it was because they had been ordered by a judge about two weeks ago that they had to share all their documentation with all members of the committee, including the Democrats like Matthew Dunlap who had to sue to see the proceedings of the committee he had been appointed to?

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/366274-judge-trump-voter-fraud-panel-must-give-dem-more-records

Harder to keep up lies like ‘millions of people are voting illegally’ when your political opponents can see the real records. I wonder they tried to dissolve it rather than hand everything over and prove that the whole thing was a sham from the start.

@Victorious Parasol At this point I’d love to see every one of the Repubs (and the Cons up here in Canada) go home permanently and never play politics again. 😛

Jenora: yep.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/01/why-trumps-voter-fraud-commission-disbanded.html

Ah, I’m in a bit of a tense mood right now, my friends have come over for drinks and pizza. I get the feeling these people are kind of watching me, out of concern. If I’m upset I can’t eat.

We were talking about jobs and sexual harassment. Yeah, another thing to put you in a bad mood. Sometimes thinking about something that makes you angry can relieve anxiety. I told myself today too, instead of worrying about everything I should “get my anger back” (or be fired up so to say) and not be worried about every freaking thing.

I’d offer to make some guests posts here too except I’m not a good writer 😀
(Or, please forgive me if I ramble on here.) (I have a hard time putting my thoughts into words, and am usually thinking about ten things at once.)

I could write more comments probably.

Sexual harassment on the job. Or elsewhere. How about all these apologists and those accusing women of lying?

I came upon something that might be a sort of a corroboration. Parents may be interested in this too. I did not save a link for it, it was on Reddit, those interested can probably find it.

So one day last week I was bored and looking for things to read. I have to renew my library card. I decided to look for “true scary stories”, probably googled “true scary stories Reddit”, there are a number of things on there, think that’s how I found whatever I was reading.

And I was pretty much looking for “ghost stories”. Just to read but was also thinking of past relatives and hope there is something to “the spirit world” (not a believer in organized religion) I do hope there is something to the spirit world and my past ancestors can help me

And there were enough of ghost stories on there, as well as regular stuff such as encountering bear and moose, some disaster and emergency situations, a few ufo or strange lights things, a mixed bag.

What there was also a lot of was: creepy men tales. So, so many. It was probably a quarter of the stories on the thread. Teachers, other adults, and a great lot of “guys in vans” or others asking if the kid needed a ride.

Well this isn’t any formal corroboration of harassed adult women in the work place, but I think it illustrates that there’s a lot of lechers out there. And regarding these people, why would they lie? And why now? And they won’t be “ruining a guy” or making money off of him either, a guy in a van from decades ago? They don’t even know who he was, or is, you can’t gain from this.

A retort from the apologists might be that they’re lying simply for attention. All of them? What about the boys? And this was just one thread I happened to stumble upon, how many other similar stories are out there?

Also if lechers are creeping on kids, there are lechers at the office and everywhere.

About parents here, it could be our generation? And I’m not that old, either. But what a lot of these posters said was that they were taught to always listen to adults. Yep. Ms’s T and The Other Z are nodding along here. We aren’t that old, either.

Is your age? Where you lived? We grew up in Typical Suburbia. Which at the time was rather conservative. 80s, 90s, not that long ago. Most of these areas still are about 50,50 left and right, some going to 80% R.

And your parents, or mom only for a lot of us because dad split, or step parents, were usually pretty strict and authoritarian. And if something bad happened it was probably your own fault.

I think parents should keep an eye on who their kids interact with more. Another thing too, and this is hard to find the right words for, my friends are not helping me out here, I did explain it to them and they agreed, also forgot how I said it.

Something like, from having honesty drilled into you, and accountability, and listen to adults, all that kind of stuff, you also indirectly got the idea that everyone else was honest too. Especially adults and authority figures.

Which is of course wrong. Kids need to know that there are a lot of dishonest people out there, from the flat out dangerous to those simply looking to use you to simply assholes.

As a woman, I could’ve used a lot more info on men, too. Anyone looking to use or manipulate you. Tara says that her “sex talk” amounted to: If you get pregnant we’ll throw you out of the house.
Oh that covers the whole spectrum of adult relationships now doesn’t it?

I have a few more thoughts on this all, I’m going to make a separate post so this isn’t too long.

One more thought about the spirit world…
I came home earlier, down a multi lane large street, which gains another right lane close to one intersection. I wasn’t going to turn there, but decided to go over anyway as I was going turn at the following light.

And as soon as I did, I noticed that lying in the lane I had been in were two large plastic containers, probably fell off of a construction truck. They were dark colored and I didn’t see them. And if I’d have hit those I probably would’ve done serious damage to the under side of my car. These containers probably would’ve got stuck up under it.
And I was still a few miles from home. And it’s dangerously cold here….

Maybe some spirits were looking out for me 🙂
I am glad for this good luck too, I need every bit I can get right now.

Will now try to compose my other thoughts.

This is going back to the Logan Paul incident mentioned a few pages ago: I was going through some pen pal letters for my students, and there was one student who wrote about loving Logan Paul (and hating Jake Paul). (I am in South Korea and had some of my students write to American students who attend a school my friend works at.) I had assumed the student was writing about a classmate because I’m not hip to current Youtube celebrities, but now I know who they are talking about. So now I know some elementary school students are fans of that douche who callously posted a video of someone who committed suicide.

Yeah Mrex. Just because you poop out a kid doesn’t make emotional and psychological abuse okay, and like it or not, denial of privacy is abuse. It doesn’t matter what conditions she “agreed” to, it’s abusive for you to look through her communications. If there was something in there she felt needed your attention, she would have told you about it.

Not to go off-topic, but have you guys heard that Steve Bannon’s main financial supporter has apparently cut off his funding?

Z & T,

Have you read Algernon Blackwood? If you want to read some good atmospheric supernatural tales that don’t get too dark and don’t typically have much of a sexual component, he’s a good pick. The Willows is my all time favorite short horror story. It came before HP Lovecraft (I’m pretty sure) and IMO does the weirdness from another dimension thing much more effectively and spookily. Some of his stuff can be a bit too Christian for my personal taste, but his writing skills are on point and unlike a lot of horror, doesn’t objectify women and sexualize violence against women. There are free pdfs out there. Last I checked, the Wikipedia page for him has links to some of his stories. Including The Willows and The Wendigo which are his best.

Sorry if that’s not what you meant when you talked about ghost stories. Really, I’ll just take any opportunity to recommend The Willows.

@Mish – thank you.

My thoughts exactly – even to the also bit, that pissed me off especially since I do like Sandra a lot – but put in your own, far more elegant way.

Sexual harassment in the work place.

I am looking for a new job.

And I am at the point where I’m avoiding places that you might guess would have harassers. Like most offices I’ve worked in. Other things you might worry over might not be. But you never know what you might encounter.

I am not looking for any “career position” at this point. Just something for some basic income so I don’t drain too much of my dwindling savings. I want something different anyway, future wise I’m not sure. But, I am keeping that in the back of my head too, I might come upon some basic job that could be something more in the future.

So I am looking at all sorts of jobs.

I was looking for jobs on Craigslist. Because I saw someone say that they’d found a nice job on there. Enough of the posts are redirected to other sites too. And there’s enough of big, regular, biz’s advertising on there.

And scams. And creepers.
I’m not opposed to doing house cleaning either, which I have also done in the past. I’m leaning more toward something else, but I look at those ads too. And besides the pro services looking for people there are all these ads for “sexy cleaning women” and even nude cleaning women.

In the “domestic” or “labor” section are plenty of ads from people looking for a “personal assistant” and they’re only thinly veiled on what they’re really looking for.

I have also seen these in the bus, office, admin areas too. And they flat out say stuff like “pretty girl for a personal and office assistant”. One guy said something like, ok he starts off talking about answering the phone and paperwork and winds up with “and we can have some fun when no one else is here.”

These people are basically looking for quasi hookers. Under the guise of a job. Some are very blatant too, will pay to massage your feet or whatever. Naked housecleaning.

So here you have people looking to harass. They say so. Look at the CL in your area, or in a nearby large metro area (more and varied ads.)

Now you might say, it’s Craigslist, what do you expect?
But.
I have also seen the same kind of stuff on other job sites, I think one I saw today was on…. “snagajob”? And it said right on it NSFW, I think that’s why I looked at it thinking, here too? And at the bottom it said 18+. And this was also an office job.

People don’t believe in sexual harassment? There are multitudes of all kinds of people advertising online for workers that they CAN harass!

And have sex with. For ten bucks an hour.

I guess these type of situations ‘don’t count’ as straight up prostitution or any type of gender discrimination because they are “small business”?

Big biz is usually a grind and enough of harassers there too, but they’re more subtle about it, these places won’t tolerate it, (because lawsuits), and at least there won’t be someone chasing you around a desk. Not to that level.

Or flat out advertising for a cheap hooker. Oh and they most definitely do want all sorts of other work done too. I saw one, “personal assistant”, it amounted to maid, cook, errand runner, AND admin assistant AND certain ages and looks wanted (must send pix) AND sex things alluded to AND the guy wasn’t paying shit, either.

Tara says we should email the guy and ask him if he’s smoking the wickie (pcp) and watching reruns of Bewitched.

Ha yeah lol.

And for those who don’t believe this goes on, or the volume of it, go look at the want ads.

(I don’t remember seeing such ads, on any site, in the manufacturing, construction, or skilled trade sections though.)

Did we seriously just get “Not All Parents”?

@Mish & Shadowplay

I could have chosen a better turn of phrase, and will do so in the future.

But you did just give us “Not all parents”.

Some of us have never thought that having a child gave us absolute power over them.

/Not All Parents

Some of us try very fucking hard, day in and day out, to look after our kids (don’t be a neglectful parent) without encroaching on their boundaries (don’t be an overbearing parent).

/Not All Parents

You could maybe engage without calling people toxic and disgusting, and telling them to fuck off?

/Tone Policing

Look, I know mrex can look after herself, but shit, I don’t even know how old her daughter is – do you?

I do. She’s a teenager, as mrex stated on this page. I also know that mrex, here in this thread, has admitted that she told her daughter that at any point she could look through her phone, and does that regularly enough her daughter fears it.

Our Lovely Mrex:

Should I go and snoop around? Probably, …. My kid just may be the fastest text and history deleter east of the planet Uranus.

IE, the kid knows Mrex snoops and often without cause (In this case, it was giggling and being happy), and takes appropriate measures to try and protect her privacy.

and when I asked for her phone she absolutely flipped her shit, and then curled up in bed sobbing,

Mrex’s daughter freaking out at her mother invading her privacy and discovering information she wasn’t prepared to share.

My young teen daughter came out as gay to her friends.

Mrex outing her daughter to herself.

There is absolutely no part of this invasion and denial of privacy that is not abusive or any reasonable person wouldn’t construe as abusive. I know what emotional and psychological abuse looks like, and this is one of the forms it manifests as.

@ Weirwoodtreehugger,

I am going to look into this author and read these books, I do need some new reading ideas, thanks 🙂

People I know tell me of haunted places, there are stories online, I do hope the benevolent spirits will be with us all 🙂