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Doug Jones Victory Dog Dance Party! Open Thread for laughing at Roy Moore

What a huge fucking relief. Thank you, black voters of Alabama, for sending Roy Moore packing.

Screw you, Roy Moore, but not that poor horse you rode in on.

Why would you ride to the polls on a horse if you CAN’T FUCKING RIDE A HORSE PROPERLY TO SAVE YOUR LIFE YOU FAKE COWBOY ASSHOLE PREDATOR?

Here are some more Tweets and an open thread. CELEBRATE GOOD TIMES COME ON.

https://twitter.com/owillis/status/940798680214458370

https://twitter.com/pattymo/status/940787884285718528

https://twitter.com/DIorioNathaniel/status/940797919833329666

https://twitter.com/notwokieleaks/status/940797646846988295

One more dancing dog because why not?

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Buttercup Q. Skullpants

Besides ā€“ how often do King novels get made into good movies?

Stand By Me and Shawshank Redemption were pretty good.

Manecki Neckbeard
Manecki Neckbeard
6 years ago

Shadowplayā€” Regarding the King booksā€”> movies thing, it’s kind of a stages-of-grief truism for me at this point that the films will stink. I generally adore him as an author, despite some recurring problematic elements. But hot damn! I can pretty much count on the majority of movie adaptations of his books to stink to high heaven! (IMHO, at least.)

Adaptations of his work seem to consistently rank amongst the worst w/r/t issues like changing endings; radically reworking character & plot elements; leaving out important story development details or adding in entirely novel, superfluous & awkwardly tacked-on attempts at story development.
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The Palins just confuse and sadden me, simultaneously. I pinball between which emotion I feel more at any given time. I just know it must be horrid to have one’s personal family…everything…be national media fodder. Even if Sarah Pā€™s one of those unique drama-magnet individuals who see all PR as good PR, her family is getting dragged along for the ride. And it has to be a hell of a rough ride.

Manecki Neckbeard
Manecki Neckbeard
6 years ago

Buttercup Q. Skullpants ā€”

Of course! Shawshank Redemption was incredible! And I can’t recall Stand By Me, (I was too tiny when I saw it) but I do remember that I played the LP of the soundtrack endlessly, heh!

opposablethumbs
opposablethumbs
6 years ago

@ Fishy Goat :-)))

Shadowplay
6 years ago

OK – I’m holding my hands up here. I forgot about Shawshank. And the Green Mile. I’ll accept the judgement that Misery was a good movie (never saw it, didn’t like the book all that much). That makes 4.

They still don’t make up for the abomination that was Christine. HOW DO YOU FUCK UP A MOVIE ABOUT A DEMON POSSESSED CAR? IT’S A SOLID FUCKING GOLD PREMISE!

The other thing about King movies is the dreaded “Well, it has the same title. Everything else is completely different,” AKA the Lawnmower Man effect. šŸ˜›

Diptych
Diptych
6 years ago

Oh, yeah, David Morse was in Green Mile and Langoliers.

Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
6 years ago

Shawshank is just plain excellent. I’m usually not a fan of dramas, much less prison dramas, but Shawshank’s high up on my personal list of the best films ever made. Fucking marvelous.

</somebody mentioned Shawshank, let me gush for a moment>

Manecki Neckbeard
Manecki Neckbeard
6 years ago

GAAAAHHHH okay “The Green Mile,” as well! How did I forget that one?!

The worst part for me, whenever a new one is announced, is the Hope Springs Eternal bit, because King adaptations so frequently have such compelling actors. I was stoked for “Storm of the Century” because Colm Feore does spooky so well. But SotS was just, meh. Ditto for “The Stand” miniseries with Gary Sinese, “Needful Things” with Max Von Sydow & Amanda Plummer, etc.

Manecki Neckbeard
Manecki Neckbeard
6 years ago

Dang it! Borked the edit function again! Phooey!

Mishā€” thanks so much for the potato gifs! I’ll be sure to pass them on to the potato-philosopher-in-training; I’m sure they’ll earn a wise, all-knowing nod & smile…

Shadowplay
6 years ago

In wildly unrelated – but rather neat and thought provoking – news:

There’s a month old baby who is also 24 years old out there.

The Doctor was not involved. šŸ˜›

Cheerful Warthog
Cheerful Warthog
6 years ago

…So the majority accepted “Good Stephen King Films”, leaving out New It for now because a) recent, b) unfinished, c) not universally accepted, d) devastating to my case, are Stand By Me, The Shawshank Redemption, and The Green Mile.

(I know The Green Mile isn’t universally accepted, but see ‘d’ above.)

This, it would appear, makes him the horror author whose works are best adapted to movies… when they are not, in fact, horror.

Shadowplay
6 years ago

@Cheerful Warthog

You missed The Shining.

But yeah – he’s good at writing horror, but it doesn’t seem to adapt well, since his writing is too visual.

(Incidentally, my favorite SK story by far isn’t a horror story at all. Last Rung on the Ladder – it’s from Night Shift. Gut punch every time)

Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
6 years ago

@Cheerful Warthog

So, according to medieval anti-Semites, Jews have wings and horns and menstruate.

Anti-Semites of all eras talk a lot of shit, but this talk is true: Jews (at least some Jews, and at least when they’re younger than 50 or so) do menstruate.

Manecki Neckbeard
Manecki Neckbeard
6 years ago

Shadowplayā€” does “Eyes of the Dragon” count as horror? Maybe more fantasy…with a distinct horror-ish edge? I’ve loved that one for years, and I’m always happy to recommend it to those folks who discover that they actually do like King after all, once they try reading him. (He often seems to get the same recoil reaction that J. K. Rowling gets, at least in my experience: there’s an assumption that their work is crap, simply because it’s so popular.)

I think I saw on Netflix that there was a remake of “The Mist?” Has anyone seen it? I found the original TV version terribly hopeless & scary, even for King.

Croquembouche, extrenely mamal omen
Croquembouche, extrenely mamal omen
6 years ago

Re Stephen King – sooo, has anyone else read Sleeping Beauties yet?

All his failings, collected together in one handy location. Its one redeeming feature is that it makes some misogynists very angry too.

Ana Mardoll did a long long live read of it, if Mardoll is to your taste.
http://www.anamardoll.com/2017/10/index-sleeping-beauties.html?m=1

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

Oh. I knew I was forgetting some things. The Mist movie is really good IMO. I don’t want to spoil it for people who haven’t seen it yet. So I’ll just say, there’s a major change that King said he wished he thought of himself.

The TV show is decent but not great. It’s only tangentially related to the original story. Worth a watch for Frances Conroy, but rape is used as a plot device. It’s major and permeates the whole season and I wasn’t into it being there at all and didn’t love the way it was handled. So, potential deal breaker for people.

Shadowplay
6 years ago

@Manecki

It’s sort of horror, but not really, I think, as it’s no more gruesome/scary than a lot of fairy tales.
Still love it – it’s a tale, told well. šŸ˜€

There was a TV show this year based on the Mist – no idea how good it were, except it wasn’t given a second season. The 2007 movie was pretty bad though.
Been thinking – part of the problem with SK is he’s too well known as a horror writer. So you get horror directors picking up his tales for jump scares, when you really need a good director for story.

Edit – Ninja’d by wwth on the TV series šŸ™‚

Nequam
Nequam
6 years ago

But yeah ā€“ heā€™s good at writing horror, but it doesnā€™t seem to adapt well, since his writing is too visual.

Funny, I would’ve said the opposite– many of his most famous passages take place inside the head of this or that character (while not being first-person narrative as such), which is a style nearly impossible to convey on screen.

Cheerful Warthog
Cheerful Warthog
6 years ago

@Shadowplay
I DID miss “The Shining”! One of the most iconic of them, too! Devastating to my point! My only point could be that King hated the Kubrick movie, but that doesn’t change much. What with Misery also being well received and new It, my point crumbles and blows away in the howling wind.

Last Rung on the Ladder was indeed a carefully considered strike to the gut. A lot of Night Shift had a big old whack of The Real Evil Is People, but Last Rung on the Ladder was failure and negligence, the kind of “Evil” none of us can say we’re free of. I wouldn’t force a person to walk around a tiny ledge for a wager, but would I fail to be there for someone who needs me? Hell, I’ve already DONE that frequently.

@Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
True. Hell, given their fondness for…

Oh, no, wait, I see where it comes from now. In medieval thought, menstruation was a mark of the sin of Eve (Who Was The Real Bad Guy And Adam Did Nothing Wrong), for going against the will of God. So all Jews, even male Jews, have to menstruate because they’re also marked by the curse for going against the will of God vis a vis Jesus. I was going to say that it might suit their maledictions better to have female Jews not menstruating rather than male Jews also menstruating, to show how they can’t biologically reproduce (The Only Right Way) and instead have to steal and force-convert Christian babies. But that does go against the sin of Eve business.

At this level of inconsistency, I’ll NEVER be a good anti-Semitic propagandist!

…I’m okay with that.

Shadowplay
6 years ago

@Nequam

Funny, I wouldā€™ve said the oppositeā€“ many of his most famous passages take place inside the head of this or that character (while not being first-person narrative as such), which is a style nearly impossible to convey on screen.

My bad, I think. I meant by visual that each reader gets a very strong and clear idea of what the place looks like. What each character looks like, how they move, how they sound, etc, so no movie can ever look “right.”

But yes, he does do a lot of internals which can be translated to the screen, but again – needs a director for story and character. Whoever directed The Pianist, for example (can’t remember and too idle to look it up šŸ˜› ), would take The Mist (as it’s been discussed) and really make it work.

Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
6 years ago

Two amazing things will take place in late 2017/early 2018

#MeToo Creator Tarana Burke Will Be Dropping the Crystal Ball In Times Square
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Tarana Burke is the activist who founded the Me Too Movement over a decade ago; the power of the phrase was most recently acknowledged by Time including her for its ā€œSilence Breakersā€ Person of the Year issue, though Burke was not featured on the cover. A new year is upon us, which means we have an opportunity to kick it off right by putting Burke front and centerā€”sheā€™s dropping the ball for us. In a good way.
AM New York reports that Burke will be in Times Square on New Yearā€™s Eve, pushing the Waterford crystal button that signals the East Coast start of 2018.

https://jezebel.com/metoo-creator-tarana-burke-will-be-dropping-the-crysta-1821428870

Zora Neale Hurston study of last survivor of US slave trade to be published

Due in May, Barracoon is based on the novelistā€™s 1931 interviews with Cudjo Lewis, who had arrived in the US in 1860

Alison Flood

A previously unpublished work by Zora Neale Hurston, in which the author of Their Eyes Were Watching God recounts the true story of the last known survivor of the Atlantic slave trade, is set to be released next year, more than half a century after her death in 1960.

Barracoon is based on the three months Hurston spent in Plateau, Alabama, in 1931, interviewing Cudjo Lewis, who had been carried on the last recorded slave ship to the US. Lewis, who was then 90, spoke to Hurston about how he was captured and held by American slavers in a barracoon, an enclosure used for slaves, and then transported to the US with more than 100 other people on the Clotilde.

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2017/dec/19/zora-neale-hurston-study-of-last-survivor-of-us-slave-trade-to-be-published

Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
6 years ago

@Cheerful Warthog

In medieval thought, menstruation was a mark of the sin of Eve (Who Was The Real Bad Guy And Adam Did Nothing Wrong), for going against the will of God. So all Jews, even male Jews, have to menstruate because theyā€™re also marked by the curse for going against the will of God vis a vis Jesus.

Interesting factoid! Thanks for that.

Cheerful Warthog
Cheerful Warthog
6 years ago

@Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile

Well, I’m not sure about the second bit – that’s a guess, interpretation. I do know that a lot of people suggested women menstruate because sin of Eve blaaaaargh, but I’m not sure that’s why they apparently suggested that male Jews menstruate. I mean, it’s not a sensible suggestion, so it’s entirely possible that the origin is equally nonsensical. “Look, there’s a male Jew wearing red pants. Jews don’t wear red pants, that’s silly! …UNLESS!”

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

I’d like to remind everyone that there was a miniseries of the Shining in the 90’s. It was Stephen King approved and a more faithful adaptation than Kubrick’s version. It also sucked.

It’s actually something I sometimes bring up when people get mad about changes Game of Thrones makes adapting ASOIAF. Don’t get me wrong, I love, love, love the books but it makes sense to do things like condense some of the characters (there are about 8000 named characters in the books) or cut out some of the people wandering around Westeros learning about history and mythology. People sometimes forget that books and TV/movies are different media and different things work will work in each. This should be obvious, but I guess it isn’t. When adaptations fail, it’s not because changes were made, it’s because the wrong changes were made or the writers were inadequate or the producers meddled and dumbed things down too much or the casting was off.

Funny, I wouldā€™ve said the oppositeā€“ many of his most famous passages take place inside the head of this or that character (while not being first-person narrative as such), which is a style nearly impossible to convey on screen.

Speaking of GoT, I think one of the big reasons it’s a successful adaptation is this. They do a really good job of conveying the POV character’s motivations and thoughts.

Moggie
Moggie
6 years ago
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