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Another pretty interesting one in the 17th century is the Salzburg Witch Trials. Mostly male teenage victims of lower social status in this one, a pattern that it said to have spread all the way into southern Germany in the following years and influenced who was seen as suspicious when it came to witchcraft accusations.
It seems to start with one couple accusing their teenage son(?) and spread from there to more than a 100 victims. As in many late witch trials there are a lot of children accused here, too, just so you’re warned before looking this one up.

Holy crap, Bob Marshall is a vindictive sore loser, isn’t he? What a fucking baby.

Exactly. Confiscation was a factor. So was inner community conflicts and removal of economic competition which could also be seen as a “rational” motive in our modern view.

But it gets even more interesting when you consider that at least in some HRE regions witch hunting was at times something that caused the participants not inconsiderable financial losses. For example when the victims where from the poorer strata of society and thus there wasn’t even enough property confiscated to pay the executioner. Because then…you ask yourself what did the authorities gain by prosecuting these witches? What was so valuable to them that they were willing to pay extra? And so we come to all the myriad little factors that lead to starting or nor starting a witch hunt…. I love my job. 🙂

@ little lurker

The doctrine of ‘implied repeal’ used to be a bit of a nerdy legal topic, and it was only interesting for throwing up examples like the witchcraft one. But now with Brexit it’s really come into the fore. Like if the government goes down the ‘Great Repeal Bill’ route, is it suddenly 1974 again?

@ little lurker

This was quite funny too.

http://www.starobserver.com.au/news/international-news-news/ireland-almost-accidentally-bans-heterosexual-marriage/133877

As for witchcraft, this was an interesting case.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helen_Duncan

@PeeVee: Ah.

You can understand my confusion. Not only was there no quote of Shadowplay in your comment, which was way down the page from theirs, but in that comment Shadowplay hadn’t named Roem’s entirely-forgettable standard-issue-Repug-troglodyte opponent:

The guy Danica Roem defeated is proving himself gracious … by writing a letter to the editor of the WaPo.

Where’s the bang head gif?

Agreed on the sore loser part.

If only voters would realize that guys like him and Moore really are bog-standard Republicans, rather than unusually odious exceptions, maybe we’d finally see the end of the zombified, twisted-180-degrees, lurching horror show that used to be the Party of Lincoln before getting bitten by Nixon that time.

@Alan
I didn’t know about Helen Duncan.
How come that law about witchcraft was still in effect at that point? Was it on purpose and just applied to different kinds of cases now -like a fraudulent medium- or was it something that hadn’t come up in so long that people just forgot it was still there?

@Scolar Visari:

I know.
The second most likly is that he hasn’t found anythink that is interesting.
3rd: He has forgotten, when he was voted in.

But UFOs are such a strange topic that I don’t think I was the only one making fun of it.

Two “hesitate to say” things (lest they be jinxed, or don’t get your hopes up).

Usual pal here still has issues, with the bug bites that made her so sick. Still hurts. It is almost gone, looks like, but is lingering. She’s putting various topical OTC med ointments on it.

I said, try this skin cream I got. It’s like, the Aldi version of Oil of Olay?
Product is named “Lacura Night Cream”, plenty of info online for those interested.

Did put some on. And is now cautiously optimistic that – this might’ve stopped it. Continual burning and itching from, poison bug venom? I guess.

I think it helped! She says 🙂
It is nice stuff, for the skin, at an affordable price, I found it at (US) Aldi’s.

Mine hesitation….
I need a new job, I found a post online, it’s a bit beyond me or outside of what I know, people are saying (respond to it) DO IT!!! And I just did type up a general email to send, T looked it over here and said it’s “perfect! send it!” so I think I’m going to try 🙂

Why not?

@Surplus to Requirements

Okay, sharp edges. I now understand why stamp collecting could be problematic. But cotton balls? Because I see danger everywhere, I could see how he might hurt others with those. Don’t get me started.

So I’ve decided to allow Donald Trump to while away his time until Death mercifully takes him by listening to soft classical music. Nothing exciting, just some soothing music. I might also allow some space music/ambient music/chill music.

@ Oogly,

I think you can get something, depending on where you are. Urban area here and I have been looking at things, and I see a lot of jobs for tax preparers, even if just seasonal, and many that say “we will train you.”

So if you already have this training done, I’ll bet you can get something right away. And this can be something for future things too, that’s a great thing to have on your resume 🙂

Another idea, – contact HR Block about any other office jobs they may have.

I, and most people I know, have always had to hustle, we hear ya! 🙂

And sometimes just showing up is all you need to do. There are plenty of people who are uncertain and confused as to what to do. And on the other end, employers wanting people and – no one shows up for the jobs.

They need you just as much as you need a job, don’t forget 🙂
And sometimes just showing up or emailing back is most of it done.

🙂 You can do it!

More right-wing hypocrisy. The Family Research Council was founded by James Dobson and is listed as a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center for its homophobia.

Conservative Activist Perkins Reportedly Covered Up Sexual Assault Against Teenager

By Daniel Politi

The head of the Family Research Council allegedly kept quiet about claims that an Ohio Republican lawmaker assaulted a teenage boy in a hotel two years ago. Perkins was told that then-candidate for the Ohio legislature Wesley Goodman’s allegedly fondled a supporter’s son during a conference in Washington, according to the Washington Post.

“If we endorse these types of individuals, then it would seem our whole weekend together was nothing more than a charade,” the boy’s stepfather wrote to Perkins, head of the Council for National Policy, to demand action. Perkins replied that “this will not be ignored nor swept aside” but he did say the issue would be “dealt … with prudence.” The apparent actions by Goodman apparently didn’t come as a surprise to Perkins who referred to “similar incidents” in a letter. Perkins called on Goodman to step down from the race, but he continued and eventually won a seat in the legislature in November.

Goodman, now 33, resigned his seat earlier this week after state lawmakers learned about “inappropriate behavior related to his state office,” according to Ohio’s House speaker. Goodman, who is married and repeatedly touted his faith and anti-LGBT views, was reportedly seen having sex with a man in his office.* Emails and documents reviewed by the Washington Post “show a small circle of people discussed the complaints about Goodman before he went on to later misconduct at the statehouse,” notes the paper.

Perkins refused to comment but Goodman supporters expressed anger that they were kept in the dark about something that seems to have been a bit of an open secret among some conservatives. “We are so sick of people knowing and doing nothing. If someone knew, they had an obligation to say something. That’s what you do. That’s how you hold society together,” said Thomas R. Zawistowski, president of Ohio Citizens PAC, a conservative group that endorsed Goodman.

*What! the! effin’! eff!

I liked The Root’s headline for that Goodman story better: “Anti-LGBTQ Lawmaker Caught in His Office Having Extremely Pro-LGBTQ Sex With a Man”