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Happy Indictment Day! Open thread

Lock him up!

By David Futrelle

Three, three indictments in one! Three former Trump campaign officials are in the hot seat today. Former Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort is the big name on the list (along with his pal Rick Gates), for such fun things as conspiracy against the U.S. and money laundering. But even more intriguing is the GUILTY PLEA of relatively unknown Trump foreign policy adviser George Papadopoulos, whom Mueller has presumably flipped, who seems to have been doing some active COLLUDING WITH THE RUSSIANS.

So here’s an open thread to discuss the news and any other indictment fun that transpires today.

NOTE: Sorry to have gone missing for so long. I’m still dealing with a combo of health issues that have made it very difficult to work. Thanks again for your patience and support.

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PeeVee the (Tired of the Militant Plasticfaced) Sarcastic
PeeVee the (Tired of the Militant Plasticfaced) Sarcastic
7 years ago

Redundant.

Quoted for truth.

PeeVee the (Tired of the Militant Plasticfaced) Sarcastic
PeeVee the (Tired of the Militant Plasticfaced) Sarcastic
7 years ago

NEW: Authorities have preliminarily identified TX church shooter as white male in his mid-20s from outside San Antonio, sources tell @ABC.

Really. Go know.

Surplus to Requirements, Observer of the Vast Blight-Wing Enstupidation
Surplus to Requirements, Observer of the Vast Blight-Wing Enstupidation
7 years ago

Anyone want to lay odds on a white male in his mid-20s from rural Texas being antifa?

How about the odds of such a person being white nationalist?

Fishy Goat
Fishy Goat
7 years ago

In good news: Flynn and his son have been charged.

Mueller Has Enough Evidence to Bring Charges in Flynn Investigation

PeeVee the (Tired of the Militant Plasticfaced) Sarcastic
PeeVee the (Tired of the Militant Plasticfaced) Sarcastic
7 years ago

Devin Patrick Kelley. 26 yo. Court martialed by the USAF.

Fishy, read that this morning. I have not read that they HAVE been charged, just that they have enough TO charge them…maybe we’ll have another Mueller Monday.

tim gueguen
7 years ago

Looking for info on Andrea Hardie I found something interesting. As regulars know she’s used the pseudonym Janet Bloomfield. But a Google search for that name brings up the Wikipedia page for the late Janet Bloomfield. She was an anti-nuclear activist in the UK, including being the chair of the Campaign For Nuclear Disarmament in the ’90s. She died in 2007. Coincidence, or did Hardie choose that name deliberately to smear Bloomfield?

Brony, Social Justice Cenobite

Spooky continues to get stronger. He went to the bowl to eat before petting, and he’s getting exploratory. My vet actually did me a favor because he’s too weak to vaccinate atm. We are going to risk letting him into the rest of the house while watching.

Moggie
Moggie
7 years ago

Apparently there were kids among Kelley’s victims. I wish he were still alive, so that he could suffer more.

Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
7 years ago

@Brony
It’s good to know that Spooky is on the mend. Give him a scritch for me.

@PeeVee

I saw this yesterday…Uma’s response is absolutely the definition of “controlled fury”.

OMG, yes. Barely controlled fury.

We live in interesting times.

numerobis
numerobis
7 years ago

Surplus:

Anyone want to lay odds on a white male in his mid-20s from rural Texas being antifa?

5:1 odds he’s a lone wolf with no known political leanings.

Robert Walker-Smith
Robert Walker-Smith
7 years ago

Brony, heartfelt wishes for continued improvement. I like the image of Spooky feeling comfortable enough to be exploratory.

PeeVee the (Tired of the Militant Plasticfaced) Sarcastic
PeeVee the (Tired of the Militant Plasticfaced) Sarcastic
7 years ago

Moggie, one of the victims was the Pastor’s 14 year old daughter…

Kat, look at Uma’s nostril flare. She was furious.

Ooglyboggles
7 years ago

@Brony, Social Justice Cenobite
It’s heartening to know that Spooky is able to explore.

HiddenTurtle
HiddenTurtle
7 years ago

Looks like the shooter was discharged from the Air Force after being court martialed for assaulting his wife and child. Gee, I never would have predicted that.

Fishy Goat
Fishy Goat
7 years ago

@PeeVee You are correct. I did get a little ahead of myself. It still was good to see, though. 😀

calmdown
calmdown
7 years ago

5:1 odds he’s a lone wolf with no known political leanings.

Fox News will blame it on him being anti-christian or not having enough God in his life like they did with Las Vegas. Just like they always blame lack of values (if it’s a white male) rather than guns.

Moggie
Moggie
7 years ago

Trump says, of the shooting, “This isn’t a guns situation”, and also “Who would think a thing like this could happen?”

What, exactly, is unthinkable about this mass shooting? That it happened in a church? That’s happened before. That kids as young as five were among the victims? Happened before. And it’ll happen again, and you still won’t do a damn thing about it.

sunnysombrera
7 years ago

OH FOR FUCKS SAKE, CHEETO.

ETA: ninja’d by Moggie in split second timing, lol.

occasional reader
occasional reader
7 years ago

Hello.

Condolences.
As the shooter is a white man, DT blames “mental health problem” without knowing if the gunman really had some. Always going by the easiest argument, yes ?
And the attorney general says they should have weapons in churchs (not “cult places”, churchs). Weapons in a sanctuary. Why not a flak in the bell tower in case of air plane attack ? And an antiatomic shelter in the crypt ? If god exists, he may weep with such “believers”.

Have a nice day.

Alan Robertshaw
7 years ago

I believe we have a few Corvid fans, so here’s a pic from the Samhain celebrations here.
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(“Say ‘Nevermore'”; “F*ck off”)

Mish of the Catlady Ascendancy
Mish of the Catlady Ascendancy
7 years ago

@Alan, if you haven’t yet read American Gods, you really must – and not just for the exchange with the raven (which I love). The blending of so many different deities – which you might think could never work – is brilliant and seamless. I honestly think sometimes that Gaiman isn’t exactly human but otherworldly in his abilities 🙂
The underlying idea that gods only exist/have power to the extent that humans believe in them is also a thread throughout the Discworld series, and I find it fascinating, esp. given that I’m a grumpy atheist but a large chunk of my childhood/teen years was spent in quite a fundamentalist religion.

Moggie
Moggie
7 years ago

American Gods is very dark, though. Excellent, but not exactly an uplifting read, as far as I recall. If you’re in need of feelgood fiction, this isn’t it.

weird (just weird, today) eddie
weird (just weird, today) eddie
7 years ago

@ Moggie; all

1. The corruption of the political process by money from big donors.
2. A large number of mean-spirited and tribal voters who will vote for anything (even against their own interests) if it hurts people they hate.
3. A malignant form of Christianity which has conditioned people to believe that you can deny inconvenient reality and replace it with fantasy, provided you shout loud enough.
4. A lack of negative personal consequences. Most of these shitstains will be re-elected; those who lose will find lucrative private sector jobs thanks to their connections.

this.

THIS

THIIISSSSSSSS

re: abortion n the g.o.p….

still the best way to get white women (particularly educated white women) to vote for pols who want to make them legally second-class citizens

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
7 years ago

@ mish

I’ll stick that on my list. Must confess I haven’t read a lot of Gaiman stuff. He wrote for 2000AD back in the day, but since then the only works I’m familiar with are his Holmes/Lovecraft pastiche and a Dr Who episode. I like his ‘Librarian’ quote though, and the Raven one always makes me giggle (so thank you for introducing me to it!)

Moggie
Moggie
7 years ago

You mean you haven’t read Good Omens?

Word of advice: read Good Omens.

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