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Neo-Nazis charged with attempted murder after shooting following Richard Spencer speech: Today in Tweets

Colton Fears, Tyler Tenbrink and Wiliam Fears, charged with attempted murder after shooting yesterday

By David Futrelle

Three white supremacists have been charged with attempted murder after one of them fired at a group of antifascist counterprotesters after a speech by neo-Nazi celebrity Richard Spencer at the University of Florida in Gaineville yesterday.

The Miami Herald reports:

Just before 5:30 p.m., just as protesters outside Spencer’s speech at UF’s Phillips Center were wrapping up, Gainesville police said the trio started heckling some anti-Spencer protesters with Hitler chants, Nazi salutes and threats. At one point, cops said, convicted felon Tenbrink pulled out a gun and the brothers encouraged him to use it.

He fired a single shot that missed the group, police said, then sped off in a silver Jeep. An off-duty Alachua County Sheriff’s Office deputy spotted the car 20 miles out of town around 9 p.m. and arrested the group. The Fears brothers are held on million dollar bonds in the Alachua County jail. Tenbrink’s is $3 million.

Surprise, surprise: Two of the three were amongst the alleged “very fine people” marching with their fellow white supremacists in Charlottesville.

Tenbrink, 28, and William Fears, 30, were spotted at Charlottesville, the site of the largest white nationalist gathering in years that erupted in violence. Fears identifies himself on Twitter as “Charismatic leader of a White breeding cult” and tweeted “blood and soil,” the notorious Nazi slogan.

This is terrorism, plain and simple. It’s appalling the story isn’t getting more attention in the media.

Here are some tweets with more details on what happened.

https://twitter.com/efoster_eric/status/921495556790325248

And these three aren’t the only violent white supremacists who should be getting a lot more attention from the press — and the cops.

The ProPublica piece is a long one but I think a necessary read for anyone concerned with the rise of a violent fascist movement in US.

My thoughts exactly.

Meanwhile, everyone in the White House continues to lie about Trump’s shockingly callous treatment of a grieving Gold Star mother and the congresswoman who has stood up for her.

https://twitter.com/TVietor08/status/921452065338953729

Don TrumpJr. has thrown himself into the fray though he apparently has trouble telling black women apart.

https://twitter.com/kibblesmith/status/921064156610088962

Rachel Maddow has a pretty convincing theory on why Trump doesn’t want to talk about Niger: that the 4 US soldiers died in part as a result of the Trump administration alienating the government of Chad, which pulled its troops out of Niger after Trump put the country  (a longtime ally in the war on terror) on his alleged non-Muslim ban list for an extremely stupid reason.

In a whole other arena of terrible, things are even worse in Puerto Rico than official reports acknowledge:

But our country still has its heroes. Along with Rep. Wilson and all those working diligently to save lives in Puerto Rico, there is this dude:

Here are some cute animals because we all need more of them this week. And every week these days, frankly.

 

https://twitter.com/awwcuteness/status/921260735119970307

https://twitter.com/ItsMeowIRL/status/921245209526132742

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IBH Ardipithecus
IBH Ardipithecus
7 years ago

Re condoms and conditional consent.

UK CPS (Crown Prosecution Service) legal guidance specifically refers to the Assange case, and explains why if consent is conditional on condom use – AND condom is not used – then this is rape.

http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/p_to_r/rape_and_sexual_offences/consent/#a07

Imaginary Petal
Imaginary Petal
7 years ago

I don’t know how to properly quote and reference sections of law, but here’s the relevant bit from Swedish law:

Den som genom misshandel eller annars med våld eller genom hot om brottslig gärning tvingar en person till samlag eller till att företa eller tåla en annan sexuell handling som med hänsyn till kränkningens allvar är jämförlig med samlag, döms för våldtäkt till fängelse i lägst två och högst sex år.

Detsamma gäller den som med en person genomför ett samlag eller en sexuell handling som enligt första stycket är jämförlig med samlag genom att otillbörligt utnyttja att personen på grund av medvetslöshet, sömn, allvarlig rädsla, berusning eller annan drogpåverkan, sjukdom, kroppsskada eller psykisk störning eller annars med hänsyn till omständigheterna befinner sig i en särskilt utsatt situation.

Är ett brott som avses i första eller andra stycket med hänsyn till omständigheterna vid brottet att anse som mindre grovt, döms för våldtäkt till fängelse i högst fyra år.

Är brott som avses i första eller andra stycket att anse som grovt, döms för grov våldtäkt till fängelse i lägst fyra och högst tio år. Vid bedömande av om brottet är grovt ska det särskilt beaktas, om våldet eller hotet varit av särskilt allvarlig art eller om fler än en förgripit sig på offret eller på annat sätt deltagit i övergreppet eller om gärningsmannen med hänsyn till tillvägagångssättet eller annars visat särskild hänsynslöshet eller råhet.

My somewhat ham-fisted translation:

A person who, through physical violence or otherwise through force or threat to commit an illegal action, forces a person into sexual intercourse, or to engage in or suffer a sexual action which is, with respect to the gravity of the violation, comparable to sexual intercourse, shall be found guilty or rape and sentenced to a minimum of two and a maximum of six years in prison.

The same is true for one who engages another person in sexual intercourse, or a sexual act which according to the previous paragraph is comparable to sexual intercourse, by unduly taking advantage of that person’s state, such as unconsciousness, sleep, high degree of fear, intoxication, illness, bodily injury or mental disorder, or otherwise with respect to circumstances is in an especially vulnerable situation.

If a crime such as described in the previous two paragraphs is, with respect to the specific circumstances, considered less severe, the perpetrator shall be found guilty of rape and sentenced to a maximum of four years in prison.

If a crime such as described in the first two paragraphs in this section is considered severe, the perpetrator shall be found guilty of aggravated rape and sentenced to a minimum of four and a maximum of ten years in prison. In assessing the severity of the crime, it should be taken into consideration whether the force or threat was of especially serious nature, if more than one person has assaulted the victim or otherwise participated in the abuse, or if the perpetrator with respect to the course of action or otherwise has displayed especially reckless behavior.

The additional comments to this section specify that while “same-sex relations” aren’t under the law considered “sexual intercourse”, relevant sexual actions would fall under “comparable actions”. The same is true for “opposite-sex relations” even where PiV penetration does not happen. It is also specified that digital penetration is by law comparable to the legal definition of sexual intercourse, i.e. it would carry the same sentence according to this quoted section.

Now that I’ve translated this text, it’s occurred to me that it’s probably already available in an official English version. Oh well.

Violet the Vile, Wielder of an Ideologically Weaponized Vagina
Violet the Vile, Wielder of an Ideologically Weaponized Vagina
7 years ago

@Mish

I’ve never heard of consent “carrying over” from anyone except people who want it to be true, ie potential or actual rapists. If you have to argue a case for it, it’s not a thing. Ugh, I hate this.

I know I say this every time, but if you are paying attention and listening to your partner then consent is not hard.

Observe your partner. If you aren’t sure they are into what’s happening, then use your words and ask. If they say “No, I’m not into it,” stop.

And – if you don’t get a clear answer – then err on the side of caution and stop. They’ll soon tell you if they want you to carry on.

There you go. Consent: FIFY in less than a hundred words.

The only people who say it’s hard are people who have a vested interest in “blurred lines” ie people who want to be able to do whatever they want and then say “But blurred lines your Honour!” when it comes to the courtroom. IE the people who don’t want to stop just because someone else is uncomfortable (or terrified). And obviously people who are asleep can’t consent, what is wrong with you?

Seems like it’s time for the cup of tea video again: just because people drank a cup of tea with you one time does not mean they will drink tea whenever you make it for them :/

Scildfreja Unnyðnes
Scildfreja Unnyðnes
7 years ago

A few things missed. Sorry I’ve been away. Thank you all for kitty condolences <3 Today my sisters' kids will be over. We're going to have a kitty funeral for them, with a little cross-placing in the garden and all of his pictures and photos and their drawings of him. I'm pretty sure it'll completely destroy me, but it'll be good for them.

@Surplus, you're reacting in exactly the way that Trump and the Trumpinistas want you to. They want to horrify you so deeply with one possibility, nuclear war, so that when they actually just do some lesser-evil you breathe a sigh of relief. They'll threaten everything – prosecuting opponents, nuclear war, conventional war, setting the damn ocean on fire – so that you just want to recoil from everything to preserve your frazzled nerves.

WWTH doesn't want nuclear war, and never did. False dichotomy. She doesn't want either, and this isn't a "it has to be one or the other" situation. They want us to think of it that way, because then we get relieved when they do the least horrible thing.

Hillary doesn't deserve any of this. Hillary's been the target of misogynistic hate for 30 years now, and she deserves to be left alone. Well, heck, I mean, She deserves daily deliveries of flowers and “we’re so sorry” notes from half of America, and a permanent fully-paid retirement cruise to wherever the heck she likes, for how she’s been treated over the years. But I’m sure she’d take “left alone to do whatever she wants without being the right wing scratching post” in a heartbeat, too.

re: Mueller, wheee! I am so anxious about it. I’m very glad that they’re calling it the first stage of arrests, because if only Kushner or Manafort or Flynn gets arrested for all of this, and Trump stays safe, I’m gonna have an aneurysm. I really hope that it pick sup speed and they get him out of there soon. Ugh.

Sorry for the wordiness. My brain spins in the morning, and editing is hard on a tablet.

Imaginary Petal
Imaginary Petal
7 years ago

@Violet the Vile

I know I’m supposed to love that video, but I still love it more than I expect. Even after watching it many times.

Hambeast, disorderly she-tornado and breaker of windows
Hambeast, disorderly she-tornado and breaker of windows
7 years ago

Yuk. That ‘consent carries over during periods of sleep’ thing really gets me since one of my rapes happened that way. Waking up in the middle of the act is NOT part of consensual sex. Just no.

opposablethumbs
opposablethumbs
7 years ago

Bet many of the same people who think consent “carries over” sleep also believe the “good old days” were when it was legally deemed to “carry over” from the instant of marriage, unconditionally and permanently.

Dormousing_it
Dormousing_it
7 years ago

Consent is a simple, simple concept. To me, it all hinges on seeing your partner as a full human being, same as you.

OT: My cat Sassy

Awhile ago, I mentioned that I’d gotten a feral kitten, Sassy. She’s been hiding, for nearly the past month, only coming out to eat and use her litterbox, and only when no one was observing her.

She’s finally achieved a breakthrough! Last night, I sat on the floor outside “her” room, and she came up to me. I let her pet me, rather than vice-versa. She even purred!

Now, this didn’t prevent her from hissing at me this AM when I put food in her bowl, but I think she may have hissed because she was startled.

Unfortunately, I have to put flea drops on her. I don’t want to break the trust we’ve established, but she really, really, needs those drops.

She also has a vet appointment on Monday. I may reschedule it, though.

Hippodameia
Hippodameia
7 years ago

I hope they do go after Hillary. As a distraction tactic, it sure beats the alternative of starting a (possibly nuclear) war.

Trump’s entirely capable of doing both. Stopping him is a much better solution than debating what sacrifices might temporarily appease him.

Imaginary Petal
Imaginary Petal
7 years ago

Awww, Sassy! <3

kupo
kupo
7 years ago

I let her pet me, rather than vice-versa.

Ah, yes, this is super important to building trust with cautious kitties.

Shadowplay
Shadowplay
7 years ago

@Dormousing_it

Have you thought about using the heating pad trick? Turn it on when you go into “her room” to feed and clean out the litter, then sit on/by it for a bit and talk to her.Kitty will start to associate you with warm as well as food. (works for most young feral animals. 😛 )

PeeVee the (Tired of the Militant Plasticfaced) Sarcastic
PeeVee the (Tired of the Militant Plasticfaced) Sarcastic
7 years ago

I love this. The replies are pure gold.

https://twitter.com/KateHarding/status/924271290751574016

Dormousing_it
Dormousing_it
7 years ago

@Shadowplay

I hadn’t ever heard of that. I may give it a try. The thing is, I refer to her as a kitten, but she’s probably getting close to 5 months old now. Will it work for older kittens, do you know?

I loved feeling her brush against me. She also played with my hair a little bit. All I did was talk to her in a soft voice.

Shadowplay
Shadowplay
7 years ago

Aww. Poor little maligned Roger Stone is suing twitter for banning him.

There, there. We know your vile rants were in jest, even if they don’t.

Shadowplay
Shadowplay
7 years ago

@Dormousing_it

Should work even with a teenage cat, it’s worked on an adult fox (Broken leg and bad infection, so it needed more handling than a normal heal and release).
You’ve got the voice (obviously 🙂 ) and the whole respecting her space thing that cats that have been wild for a bit need already, the heat thing just gives an extra little push into trusting.

Hippodameia
Hippodameia
7 years ago

White House lawyer Ty Cobb said Sunday the president’s tweets calling an inquiry into his ties with Russia a “witch hunt” and calling for an investigation into Hillary Clinton are not a reaction to special counsel Robert Mueller’s ongoing probe.

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/357725-white-house-lawyer-trump-tweets-not-a-reaction-to-mueller-probe

Cool story, bro.

numerobis
numerobis
7 years ago

Scildfreja: I just can’t imagine. That’s just pure evil.

Will you be able to make a formal complaint to the police and SPCA? The probability of your particular complaint going anywhere is nearly nil, but a pattern of complaints sometimes gets airplay on the news, at which point they magically stop.

Mea
Mea
7 years ago

@Dormousing_it

Regarding the flea drops…

There is an oral medication that’s used for repelling fleas called Comfortis. My cat eats the pill up without me even having to mix it with anything. you might ask your vet about that. Be warned though, it may upset their stomach, especially if eaeten on an empty stomach.

numerobis
numerobis
7 years ago

The flea drops: is this the one that you add a drop on the scruff of their neck once a month?

Mistyful
Mistyful
7 years ago

Scildfreja, I’m so sorry that happened to your kitty, and for you having to go through this. I agree with numerobis that making a complaint could at least help to establish an ongoing problem.

Dormousing_it, you might want to delay your appointment, but there’s another option too. Most vets will make appointments where you just bring your pet in, to be petted and fussed over and nothing negative associated with the visit. You could see if your vet would be willing to do that, to kind of ease your kitten into the situation.

Shadowplay
Shadowplay
7 years ago

Apropos of nothing (and because it involves a badge and the honor system 😛 ) is anyone doing NaNoWriMo this year?

I’m doing it if anyone else is – account name Threpney.

Sheila Crosby
7 years ago

@shadowplay I’m not joining the official Nano. I’m planning to write the 3rd draft of the whodunnit I started during NaNoWriMo 2005.
(I did write 3 other books in between, honest!)

PeeVee the (Tired of the Militant Plasticfaced) Sarcastic
PeeVee the (Tired of the Militant Plasticfaced) Sarcastic
7 years ago

Mandatory and Rick Gates are told to surrender.

It begins.