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Not a big fan of Harvey Weinstein

By David Futrelle

Today seems to be a bit of a slow news day, at least for the Trump Era, though that could change in an instant if that dude in the White House decides to do or say something monstrous.

But, hey, there are still many appalling things (and a few good ones) going on in the world. Let’s get to them!

Anthony Scaramucci has started his own lil media outlet. Things are not going well there.

https://twitter.com/ArmyStrang/status/920276930842292224

https://twitter.com/MikeIsaac/status/920303213852504066

A non-apology Holocaust denial apology!

Some depressing polls:

Exciting new videos of Trump lying and acting like a complete creeper!

https://twitter.com/VicBergerIV/status/920038542851616768

Can you say “hostile work environment?”

But, hey, there’s some good news:

https://twitter.com/lawdavisito94/status/920421563832336385

I’m going to make up for the relative lack of news tweets today with MOAR KITTIES!

https://twitter.com/lordflaconegro/status/919622676574035968

https://twitter.com/Elverojaguar/status/920158152317984768

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Bina
3 years ago

I was never in any other Miramax film.

Why no, Harvey Weinstein wasn’t at all a totally vindictive, petty sack-o-shite who took casting-couch refusals personally! Why do you ask?

Also, yay! The Scaramucci Post apologizes IF anyone was offended by its antisemitism! Give it up for the Conditional Apology, folks! (And for all the stupid fucking emojis, too!)

Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
3 years ago

… though that could change in an instant if that dude in the White House decides to do or say something monstrous.

Did you get my tweet?

Buttercup Q. Skullpants
Buttercup Q. Skullpants
3 years ago

We regret to inform you the Monty Python duck is a huge asshole.

IgnoreSandra
3 years ago

Related note: Me, too is still going on. And it’s always dozens of women being harassed by three or four men saying we’re liars or that our trauma isn’t traumatic enough for their liking.

Godzilla Roberts
Godzilla Roberts
3 years ago

Shouldn’t they note that 48% of republicans is just about 1/8th of the population? <__< Of course they're the population in power now. le sigh

Shadowplay
Shadowplay
3 years ago

though that could change in an instant if that dude in the White House decides to do or say something monstrous.

He did. You’ve already seen it though. Scumbag.

Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
3 years ago

He did. You’ve already seen it though. Scumbag.

Which makes two monstrous things in the past two hours. That’s what David gets for tempting fate like that. =P

(For the morbidly curious: This and this. Massive TW for the second one.)

Shadowplay
Shadowplay
3 years ago

Oh good god. I hadn’t seen the second one you linked, only the first 🙁

Bina
3 years ago

@Sandra:

Related note: Me, too is still going on. And it’s always dozens of women being harassed by three or four men saying we’re liars or that our trauma isn’t traumatic enough for their liking.

As usual, the (antifeminist) male response to anything having to do with feminism is proof of why we need feminism.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-1NW8uF64650/UZC0Q3RgH9I/AAAAAAAAFe0/pQfbF6xQez8/s1600/headdesk.jpg

IgnoreSandra
3 years ago

@Bina

As usual, the (antifeminist) male response to anything having to do with feminism is proof of why we need feminism.

Exactly! Like five dudes (Or four socks) came after me cause my story includes a time when a guy assaulted me without either drugging me or initiating physical violence (I read from his body language he’d hurt me if I didn’t screw him), and it escalated to, like, 240 comments and one of them trying to dox me and calling me a man and literally stealing a picture of mine and leaving threats on my profile.

Necessity for feminism: Amply demonstrated!

Mish of the Catlady Ascendancy
Mish of the Catlady Ascendancy
3 years ago

@IgnoreSandra,

Are you ok? That’s effing horrible. And so many women are reporting similar treatment 🙁

DMW
DMW
3 years ago

Y’know… even after almost a year, it’s still hard to process what you’re hearing every time the merciless void crabs open the facial port of their POTUS skinsuit and some other horribly cruel bullshit comes oozing out. How somebody can effortlessly display such a breathtaking lack of basic human empathy is continually staggering, even if it has ceased to be surprising.

I am, however, happy to report that spell check did not flag the word “skinsuit,” which I find amusing and slightly disturbing.

Bina
3 years ago

@Sandra:

Ugh, that is so awful that I can’t even begin to look for the words to describe how it made me feel.

And yeah, I’ve been assaulted without drugging or explicit violence, too…at least that’s what I’d call it, since one minute I was making out with a good-looking guy I thought was a friend, and the next, he’d suddenly climbed up over me so that his knees were on either side of my neck, his zipper was down, and he was inserting himself in my mouth without so much as a by-your-leave. But no, there wasn’t any violence! I guess permission isn’t necessary when you can do serious damage just by sitting your ass down on someone’s throat.

I suppose those same guys (or socks) would call me a slut. Fuck ’em, I’d call them rape apologists. And the guy who did that to me? Yup, I call him a rapist. A slick one, too, since he pulled that fast one on me with such blinding speed that only years later did I realize that he must have been a repeat offender. He’d clearly had a fair bit of practice, to get it to where he could do that and not hear me utter so much as a “WTF, dude”. Heaven only knows how many other women or girls he did it to before he did it to me…

Ugh.

Weatherwax
Weatherwax
3 years ago

@Sandra
@Bina

Hugs and kitties as required. I’m so sorry that happened to you.

misophistry
misophistry
3 years ago

Me too

Jesalin
Jesalin
3 years ago

@Sandra and @Bina

Hugs and:
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I’m so sorry that happened to you!

opposablethumbs
opposablethumbs
3 years ago

@Sandra, @Bine … fucking hell. I’m so sorry people have inflicted this violence and shit on you, and I hope you are ok.

Jesalin
Jesalin
3 years ago

And in other disgusting news:

‘Most of them didn’t make calls’: Trump on predecessors consoling fallen soldiers’ families

http://www.ctvnews.ca/world/most-of-them-didn-t-make-calls-trump-on-predecessors-consoling-fallen-soldiers-families-1.3635814?cid=sm%3Atrueanthem%3Actvnews%3Apost&utm_campaign=trueAnthem%3A+Trending+Content&utm_content=59e6aea819694a0007c79e06&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=facebook

Trump said in a news conference he had written letters to the families of four soldiers killed in an Oct. 4 ambush in Niger and planned to call them, crediting himself with taking extra steps in honouring the dead properly. “Most of them didn’t make calls,” he said of his predecessors. He said it’s possible that Obama “did sometimes” but “other presidents did not call.”

The record is plain that presidents reached out to families of the dead and to the wounded, often with their presence as well as by letter and phone. The path to Walter Reed and other military hospitals, as well as to the Dover, Delaware, Air Force Base where the remains of fallen soldiers are often brought, is a familiar one to Obama, George W. Bush and others.

Lying self-aggrandizing sack of pus.

Gussie Jives
Gussie Jives
3 years ago

@Sandra @Bina I second hugs and kitties!

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
3 years ago

@ Jesalin

Lying self-aggrandizing sack of pus.

I quite like Duffelblog’s take on this.

The White House said that Trump did not immediately tweet about the incident since it did not involve a Puerto Rican Mayor or the failing New York Times.

“President Lincoln, one of our greatest presidents ever. Freed the slaves. Remarkable man. Lincoln. Fantastic,” Trump said. “He never called the families of soldiers killed during the Civil War. But these fake news reporters won’t tell you that.”

Dan Hoan
3 years ago

As a historian, and as a fucking human being, the idea of “twitter polling” to determine how many Jews were killed in the Holocaust makes me so angry I can barely put together a full sentence.

Citizen Rat
Citizen Rat
3 years ago

Eff Terry Gilliam. Not just because of the horrible tweet defending Johnny Depp but also because of Lena Headey’s own account of how she was bullied by Gilliam while working on Brothers Grimm.

Iseult The Idle
Iseult The Idle
3 years ago
PeeVee the (Tired of the Militant Plasticfaced) Sarcastic
PeeVee the (Tired of the Militant Plasticfaced) Sarcastic
3 years ago

My heart goes out to you all.

💔

Shadowplay
Shadowplay
3 years ago

Trump’s full of shit.

Obama called every family. No exceptions, no one missed.
GWB not only called every family, he actually attended as many box flights as he could

– @Alan, if I’ve got your timeline right, you can back me on that.

NEITHER of them would be so stupid and callous as to say “He signed up for it.” to the fucking widow!

Diego Duarte
Diego Duarte
3 years ago

There’s an active shooter in Edgewood, Maryland. So far 5 people have been shot.

Stay safe everyone.

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/10/18/us/maryland-harford-county-shooting/index.html

Gussie Jives
Gussie Jives
3 years ago

*sigh* And as if the day couldn’t get worse, Gord Downie passed away. First John Dunsworth, now Downie… Canuckian icons are just fading away before us. Gord Lightfoot better be doin’ okay.

I dunno… I realize that it sounds silly to mourn a celebrity I never met, but… Gord’s voice was one that spoke to me through some turbulent times in my life. Dealing with the stresses of university through a haze of depression, the Hip was one of those offbeat uniquely Canadian groups, one that offered a poetic take on daily life and the cultural touchstones all around us. When I was getting started as an artist, I still remember practicing my colouring to “Silver Jet” on repeat. When I was feeling down, I’d walk the streets of North Toronto with “Bobcaygeon” playing on my headphones and let the evening remind me that tomorrow was another day. The Tragically Hip remains the only rock concert I’ve attended, being the noise-averse person I am, and Canada Day 2004 was a huge show at the Molson Amphitheater. Fireworks and celebrations galore. I still remember the enormous cheer when the refrain “That night in Toronto…” came during “Bobcaygeon”… never seen anything like it.

Even as time wore on and I graduated university and grew in social awareness, the Hip seemed to grow along with me. “Vaccination Scar” and “Are We Family” took aim at the Bush administration at the height of the Iraq War. “Goodnight Attawapiskat” called back to the Idle No More Movement that dominated headlines in 2012. Gord’s solo Secret Path album is so haunting that I have trouble listening to it given the weight of its subject matter.

We knew about his brain cancer diagnosis for months, but… that still doesn’t make that empty feeling in the pit of your stomach feel any less deep. I’ll miss you, Gord… you were gone before your time.

banned@4chan.org
banned@4chan.org
3 years ago

I was never in any other Miramax film.

I am making this an image macro.

As for Trump, I don’t mind a chance to mock him, but I have to play devil’s advocate, 4chan’s favorite game: “He knew what he signed up for” is simply a crass version of what every leader says about dead soldiers. Compare it to “we never look forward to putting our soldiers in harm’s way, but sometimes it’s necessary.”

Diego Duarte
Diego Duarte
3 years ago

@banned4chan

He’s already calling the widow a liar btw, and the Trumpanzees are loving it:

http://reverepress.com/news/trump-calls-pregnant-widow-liar-insulting-husbands-sacrifice/

Scildfreja Unnyðnes
Scildfreja Unnyðnes
3 years ago

Rest in peace, Gord. I don’t listen to The Hip all that much anymore, but Gord’s music is very much a part of me.

@Bina, your kitty! Oh no! :C I hope she finds her way home. And so many condolences on what happened to you. So terrible. @Sandra too, that was awful, you didn’t deserve it. I’m so sorry that happened to you :C

A rough day today. Best to you all!

Iseult The Idle
Iseult The Idle
3 years ago

@Gussie it isn’t silly at all. I’m still in mourning over Prince and David Bowie.

Gussie Jives
Gussie Jives
3 years ago

Rest in peace, Gord. I don’t listen to The Hip all that much anymore, but Gord’s music is very much a part of me.

I think The Hip’s music is a part of all Canadians. I just read Ben Rayner’s article on meeting Downie and I found it interesting, though not surprising, that he eschewed the popular conception of The Hip’s status as the pinnacle of “Canadian-ness”, and that he could not consider Canada a country so long as the aboriginal people continued to suffer due to our indifference.

There are only a handful of groups that I own the whole catalogue of. The Tragically Hip became one of them, but more than that, I even own Downie’s solo albums and his book of poetry. The man really did have a unique perspective on the world he inhabited; there’s a whole chapter of poems dedicated just to living hotel room to hotel room on tour and what he saw around him. I’m sure plenty of folks all over the world have a Gord Downie story to tell.

I’m probably going to give Secret Path a listen on the bus ride home. The story of Chanie Wenjack is as tragic and mournful as Downie’s own voice. Highly recommended for any Mammotheers who want a glimpse into the terror faced by those who survived the residential schools. Grim stuff, so be prepared when you listen.

Imaginary Petal
Imaginary Petal
3 years ago

@Iseult The Idle

I feel like I need to comment on this article you linked. As a non-binary, male presenting person who has identified as male for most of my life, and who is primarily attracted to women, I’m feeling torn.

My first thought when I started reading was “oh god, not one of these guys again”. But I also thought reading the article might get me thinking of sketchy things I may have done earlier in life. But I was NOT ready for the level of harassment and abuse the blogger was about to describe! He is admitting to some deplorable behavior, some of it outright criminal.

Now I’m torn because:
1. I suppose it’s good that he’s calling attention to the idea that “normal men” can behave this way.
2. I’m reading this, thinking THIS IS NOT NORMAL BEHAVIOR AT ALL, WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT.
3. Now I’m dangerously close to #notallmen. 🙁
4. I am not gonna praise this gross dude for “bravely” admitting to being a serial abuser.
5. Blaming his behavior on his religious background and the PUA cult is not accepting responsibility in any sense.
6. I hate being that man-like person saying “yup, that’s what those other men are like”.
7. But seriously, what the fuck?
8. I still feel like the blogger is just another fucking Jamie Kilstein.
9. The world is bad.

Can’t even English in a structured way tonight. It’s just a ramble, I know.

IgnoreSandra
3 years ago

@Mish

I’m kinda not okay. I’m still shaking, especially from when he found that old picture of mine. Apparently it didn’t work out for him cause his friends said that even back then during a pretty terrible time of my life, I looked better than he does now. That’s according to my friends btw, I blocked him.

And that’s brought up all my other issues with sex and the ways those things roll together into a fucking giant messed-up ball of pus.

If I were to pick a scene from Heathers to describe me, it’d be when Heather Chandler spits at her own reflection.

@Bina

I literally met up with a dude for sex, could tell from his body language he was gonna hurt me if I didn’t do it (My brother used to beat me so I’m pretty good at detecting that) and I decided that I’d rather be assaulted instead of being beaten up AND assaulted.

Apparently, that wasn’t rape. No, apparently that was me regretting sex, and it doesn’t count as rape if I don’t speak up and say no.

@Weatherwax, Jesalin, Opposable and Scildfreja

Thanks so much for the wishes and cat pictures. Kitties are simply perfection.

IgnoreSandra
3 years ago

@Imaginary Petal

I was socialized as a man for years and years, and while most of it didn’t take…

I’m not going to go into any detail, but I am personally and directly responsible for sexually harassing at least fifteen women. Nothing I did escalated to a criminal point, or involved unsolicited pictures or touching or that shit, but I know I hurt some people. It’s my biggest regret, and it isn’t normal behavior. But men are not socialized to be normal. Men are socialized to abuse women, and even the non-men among us absorb some of it.

Scildfreja Unnyðnes
Scildfreja Unnyðnes
3 years ago

Our society has a horrible requirement for bravery on the part of an abused person. I wrote, like, five more paragraphs on this, but it’s just me going around in circles about how stupid and awful it all is.

These people need to stop looking for excuses to ignore the feelings of others, and start looking for excuses to make others feel better.

dreemr
dreemr
3 years ago

As far as mourning celebrities, especially musicians, I do, too. Music is just so tightly interwoven into moments in our lives.

My son asks me periodically for music recommendations and the other night he asked about a few that I pulled up, and after playing each song it seemed like half the time I was saying, “Well, he’s dead now…”

Imaginary Petal
Imaginary Petal
3 years ago

Let’s do an uplifting snapshot from life instead.

There’s this Somali kid (he’s 18 I think) who comes to our volunteer homework help group very often. He is very ambitious and bright, but got started with school and reading/writing pretty late due to growing up in horror. He’s now studying Swedish and making his way through high school. He also lives in the same neighborhood as me, so we’re often on the same trams and buses to get home after the volunteer session.

Today, he called me over as if he wanted help with his homework. But when I sat down with him, he instead said “so.. Italy, huh?” He’s referring to the fact that Sweden’s men’s national football/soccer team was drawn against Italy in the playoffs to qualify for next year’s FIFA World Cup in Russia. It’s the worst possible outcome. We could’ve been drawn against Denmark or Switzerland.

On the way home, he wanted to ask about how to pronounce the names of various players on the national team. “Number 10 is a great player”, he said. “What’s his name, Forzebarg?” It’s Forsberg. “Right, where’s he from?” He’s from Sundsvall. “Where’s Sundsvall?” I don’t know. Somewhere up north.

“When did you start watching football?”, he asked next. I dunno, around 1992 I guess. “Ooh, that’s when the Euros were held in Sweden, right?”

Now, let me remind you, this guy was probably born in 1999 or 2000. In Somalia. He only came here a few years ago. Yet he somehow knows that the European Championships were played in Sweden in 1992.

“And they made it to the semi-finals, right?” Yup. “And the semi-finals in the World Cup 1994 as well?” Yup. “Who knocked them out?” Brazil. “What was the score?” 1-0. “Who scored the goal?” Romário. “It was a header, right?” Yup. “And then Sweden beat Bulgaria for the bronze medal?” Yup.

“Who were on the team back then?” Umm, lots of people. Tomas Brolin. Martin Dahlin. Kennet Andersson. Henrik Larsson. “Are they still alive?” Yeah, they’re like 45-50 years old now. Well, one guy died. “Who died?” Klas Ingesson died. “How did he die?” Cancer. “Ow that sucks.” He image googled Martin Dahlin on his phone, showing me the picture. “Is he from Africa?” No, his dad was from Venezuela. “Oh.”

“In 1958, the World Cup was held in Sweden?” Yeah. “Sweden beat West Germany in the semi-final?” Yup, right here in Gothenburg. “Whoa. Not in Stockholm?” Nope.

“In 1998, Sweden didn’t qualify?” Nope. “But in 2002 they did, right?” Yup. “And they were knocked out by Senegal.” Yup. “And in 2006 they were knocked out by Germany.” Yup. “Podolski scored two goals.” Yup. “Henrik Larsson missed a penalty.” Yup. “Teddy Lucic got a red card.” Yup.

“I watched all those games on youtube. My cousin might be on the national team some day.”

My eyes.

Ohlmann
Ohlmann
3 years ago

I have two questions about how to handle other culture as a role-playing game GM.

– if you suppose I am not well versed in african / (native) american culture, do you think it’s better to not introduce any african-like or american-like civilisation, or to introduce them as powerful nations in their own right even if they have the risk of looking very much like slightly changed european nation ? I am a pretty great fan of the middle age african merchant realm, but I can’t really pretend to be up to speed on them. And my local librarian wasn’t super helpful either.

– if we suppose the existence of a big jungle devoid of humans*, do you think it’s better to use a european-like nation or an african-like one as the one who are currently trying to colonize it ? Here I am thinking of using an egypt-like nation of the setting, because I alway liked the story of that pharaon that sent big ass expedition across the sea to try to colonize whatever they find.

* I am so definitely *not* putting “savage” in it. Maybe some other people think they can handle that gracefully, but I don’t think I can.

dreemr
dreemr
3 years ago

I don’t have anything as uplifting as that, @IP, which is a wonderful snapshot.

However, my dear son did have a solo in his choir concert last evening and he sang beautifully. So I guess that’s something.

PeeVee the (Perpetually Ignored, Invisible but Noice) Sarcastic
PeeVee the (Perpetually Ignored, Invisible but Noice) Sarcastic
3 years ago

However, my dear son did have a solo in his choir concert last evening and he sang beautifully. So I guess that’s something.

That uplifted me. Nothing is quite as wonderful as seeing a beloved child perform beautifully.

Brony, Social Justice Cenobite
Brony, Social Justice Cenobite
3 years ago

@Bina
My condolences for your loss of your friend.

JoeB
JoeB
3 years ago

In addition to disrespecting the family of a fallen soldier, lying about it and calling a witness to it a liar we’ve got more fake Trump donations exposed.

WaPo has a father of a soldier KIA who Trump promised 25K to (eventually after the story hit the WH said check’s in the mail)
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-offered-a-grieving-military-father-25000-in-a-call-but-didnt-follow-through/2017/10/18/8d4cbc8c-b43a-11e7-be94-fabb0f1e9ffb_story.html?utm_term=.87b4a3f7031c

NPR found that 4.2 of 5million a Trump club claimed to have donated to children’s health charities didn’t exist.
http://www.npr.org/2017/10/18/558352411/a-trump-golf-course-said-it-gave-millions-to-charity-heres-what-the-numbers-say

Sheila Crosby
3 years ago

@Imaginary Petal My best guess is that most men think their own behaviour is normal. Wherever they are on the spectrum from serial killer to Mr Wonderful, they think they’re normal.

Brony, Social Justice Cenobite
Brony, Social Justice Cenobite
3 years ago

@Diego Duarte
Interesting. Donnie Trumpy has a disparagement habit because he needs to have control over any social space he is in. I’m fascinated by how his ability to share social power has atrophied.

I have a part of my imagination that likes working him over for little things like this. I’m not sure how to best use such things yet but there will be ways of needling from the cultural mileau.

Iseult The Idle
Iseult The Idle
3 years ago

@ImaginaryPetal I know, right? I kept reading because… well, for insight, but also because I couldn’t quite believe he was confessing so…. much.

What I found interesting was his calling out PUA’s and that whole subculture. Maybe that, at least, will be useful.

I’ve done shit I’m not proud of. I assume everyone has. But this guy’s shit was pretty bad, and I’m surprised he was moved to reveal so much.

I have no idea what makes kitten photos important, but Buzzfeed apparently does: https://www.buzzfeed.com/chelseamarshall/best-kitten-pictures

Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
3 years ago

Since nobody’s pointed this out yet: Of the four fallen soldiers…
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… Only one of them got insulted right to his wife and mother’s faces, and you can probably guess which one.

Dimmy
Dimmy
3 years ago

@ Ohlmann:

There were two pharaohs known for launching long-distance sea expeditions. One was Hatshepsut, who wasn’t interested in “discovering” anything; she just wanted to establish regular trade relations with a distant civilization she already knew existed on the coast of the Red Sea — the kingdom of Punt. (“Regular” being the operative word here; I think by her time, there had already been several centuries of sporadic trade.)

The other was Necho II, and he’s probably the one you’re thinking of. Necho was the first and only pharaoh to build a large navy, but it was basically defensive. He hired some Phoenicians to do the whole “circumnavigation of Africa” thing for him. (Assuming you believe Herodotus. There’s no Egyptian record of Necho’s expedition at all, and in fact very little record of Necho himself, seeing as how he lived in the 600s BC, and by then Egypt had pretty much fallen apart.)

I don’t know how much like Egypt your “Egypt-like setting” is supposed to be, but the real-life Egyptians were never very interested in exploring and colonizing new territory. The general rule was they’d march an army across the border, do some standard Bronze Age pillaging, force the local chieftains or princes to promise a yearly tribute payment, maybe slap down a statue or a watchtower…and then get back home ASAP. The closest you’d get to Conquistador-style imperialism is the mines in the Sinai, which were technically very small penal colonies. Sort of a…desert gulag. Living out your life in a foreign country, and being buried in foreign soil, was apparently horrifying to these guys. Google “The Tale of Sinuhe”.

PeeVee the (Tired of the Militant Plasticfaced) Sarcastic
PeeVee the (Tired of the Militant Plasticfaced) Sarcastic
3 years ago
JoeB
JoeB
3 years ago

On the brighter side a local (to UF where Spencer is speaking) brewery is offering a free beer for every two tickets to the event turned in to them prior to the event. They can’t stop him from speaking but they can offer free beer to empty the auditorium.