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The 5 Nazi-est moments from Buzzfeed’s exposé of the Milo/Breitbart alt-right sausage factory

Milo Yiannopoulos: Actually worse than you already thought

By David Futrelle

So you all need to drop whatever you’re doing to read Buzzfeed’s amazing exposé of Breitbart’s use of conscienceless troll journalist Milo Yiannopoulos to push white supremacism into the American political mainstream (again).

Basing his reporting in part on a vast trove of leaked Milo emails, Buzzfeed reporter Joseph Bernstein is able to offer a somewhat gruesome behind-the scenes look at the symbiotic relationship between Milo and Breitbart’s Steve Bannon during the crucial months leading up to Trump’s electoral college victory.

If you thought the end product of the Milo/Breitbart collaboration was disgusting, well, it turns out that the sausage factory that produced it was even more disgusting. And lousy with Nazis to boot.

Again, you need to read the whole piece. But in the meantime, let me whet your appetite a little with what I’d like to call the 5 Nazi-est moments from Buzzfeed’s exposé of the Milo/Breitbart alt-right sausage factory.

Let’s start with:

Milo serenading a gaggle of sieg-heiling Nazis at a Dallas karaoke bar.

Roll the video;

According to Buzfeed, Milo later told them that his “his ‘severe myopia’ made it impossible for him to see the Hitler salutes a few feet away.”

Milo using Nazi references for his not-very-secure passwords.

As Buzzfeed explains:

In an April 6 email, Allum Bokhari mentioned having had access to an account of Yiannopoulos’s with “a password that began with the word Kristall.” Kristallnacht, an infamous 1938 riot against German Jews carried out by the SA — the paramilitary organization that helped Hitler rise to power — is sometimes considered the beginning of the Holocaust. In a June 2016 email to an assistant, Yiannopoulos shared the password to his email, which began “LongKnives1290.” The Night of the Long Knives was the Nazi purge of the leadership of the SA. The purge famously included Ernst Röhm, the SA’s gay leader. 1290 is the year King Edward I expelled the Jews from England.

Milo’s editors repeatedly having to remove horrible anti-Semitic jokes from his articles because they didn’t want to be quite that obvious about what they were pushing

Frequently, Alex Marlow’s job editing him came down to rejecting anti-Semitic and racist ideas and jokes. …

Editing a September 2016 Yiannopoulos speech, Marlow approved a joke about “shekels” but added that “you can’t even flirt with OKing gas chamber tweets,” asking for such a line to be removed. 

Milo sending “his” now-notorious guide to the alt-right to several prominent alt-rightists for approval before publishing it

Needless to say, ethical journalists don’t generally send copies of their articles to the subjects of their articles before publishing them.

Interesting sidenote: Though Milo’s underling Allum Bokhari basically wrote the whole article, Buzzfeed reports, Milo wanted his name alone on it, telling his editor in an email that “I want the glory here.” Bokhari, wanting some credit for the article he’d written, appealed to Milo’s Machiavellian instincts by suggesting that “it actually lowers the risk if someone with a brown-sounding name shares the BL.” (Bokhari is half-Pakistani.) Ultimately, the article was credited to both of them, with Milo;s name listed first.

Milo has collaborators, just like the Nazis did!

Despite his obvious odiousness and his many ties to white supremacists and literal Nazis, Milo managed to win himself a number of liberal allies on the down low. As Buzzfeed notes:

Yiannopoulos had hidden helpers in the liberal media against which he and Bannon fought so uncompromisingly. A long-running email group devoted to mocking stories about the social justice internet included, predictably, Yiannopoulos’s friend Ann Coulter, but also Mitchell Sunderland, a senior staff writer at Broadly, Vice’s women’s channel. …

“Please mock this fat feminist,” Sunderland wrote to Yiannopoulos in May 2016, along with a link to an article by the New York Times columnist Lindy West, who frequently writes about fat acceptance. …

Dan Lyons, the veteran tech reporter … emailed Yiannopoulos (“you little troublemaker”) periodically to wonder about the birth sex of Zoë Quinn, another GamerGate target, and Amber Discko, the founder of the feminist website Femsplain, and to suggest a story about the public treatment of the venture capitalist Joe Lonsdale, who had been accused of sexual assault in a lawsuit that the plaintiff eventually dropped.

Lovely.

And these little details are merely the tip of the Nazi iceberg. You’ve got to read the whole thing.

UNRELATED HEALTH NOTE: Sorry I haven’t been able to resume regular posts just yet. I appreciate your patience and support and will get back to regular posting as soon as I can, but I don’t know if that will be a matter of days or longer. Thanks again, everyone!

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Steph
Steph
3 years ago

This main craves attention, CRAVES it. And it really saddens me to see him get it.

misophistry
misophistry
3 years ago

Who Milo? Yeah he is a poo-poo head and I’m sure it makes him feel all big and special. But ignoring him isn’t an option. The alt-right won’t ignore him and it’s quite hard to ignore a man who turns up at your university to give talks/offence.

Shadowplay
Shadowplay
3 years ago

No, the nazis won’t ignore Milo. Though since he just married his boyfriend, I’m waiting to see what sort of attention the nazis give him. Bannon isn’t going to back him at all if the wind shifts – he’s a creature of the mob (and no more a leader of the mob than anyone ever is).
The Mercers – don’t know. Don’t know over much about them.

Steph
Steph
3 years ago

Oh and on what planet of “perfect expectstions” is Jessica Valenti not conventionally attractive?

She most certainly is and most of her attackers in the manosphere know that. Which is what makes them angrier.

Steph
Steph
3 years ago

@misophistry –

I disagree. I think ignoring him was an option. The reason the alt-right fêtés him / he is invited to speak at campuses is solely because of the reaction he illicits. It’s sickening that somebody who is essentially just a professional troll has any form of media attention.

Steph
Steph
3 years ago

@Shadownplay do you believe those pictures were real.

Milo is an out and out racist who can barely hide his contempt for black people despite his much famed fetishisation of black cock.

I doubt he would marry a black man – I think those photos were staged.

Shadowplay
Shadowplay
3 years ago

Didn’t think about it much, TBH. Just noted it as a headline in passing when it happened (detest the little shit, so try to read about him as little as possible)

Also I think it doesn’t really matter if it were real or staged – nazis aren’t terribly good at thinking (the evidence is fairly overwhelming, to put it mildly) and will go with their hate every time.

I don’t know. Maybe I’m letting my dislike of both him and them colour my expectations. 🙁

misophistry
misophistry
3 years ago

Pffft. I notice you say it ‘was’ an option. At what point was it an option? If only the telegraph had ignored him instead of hiring him as a journalist Or maybe we should have ignored him when he got the job at breitbart? And in what universe could you persuade the entire internet to ignore an outrageous hate peddler with published articles. For me he arrived fully formed, by the time I had heard of him it was way past ignoring time. Yes he thrives on attention, but the negative attention he generated got him fired, banned from twitter and lost him his book deal (lol).

If only his mother had ignored him, but he was an innocent then and none of this could have been predicted.

Steph
Steph
3 years ago

@Misophistry,

He was around for years before he was big. Literally years. He learned trolling was the way to increase his fame and he was right.

If people had ignored him as much as thy did when he had more “conventional views” he’d still be a nobody.

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

Or, the ignore the trolls attitude we’ve been hearing for the past 20+ years is what normalized online hate speech and allowed bigoted ideology to thrive. Milo being treated as a serious person is a symptom of the problem, not the problem itself.

Tashilicious
Tashilicious
3 years ago

Ignoring trolls does nothing.
scratch that
ignoring trolls does worse than nothing, because it gives them a playing field to do and say what they want unnoposed and to make it appear like they are the people who are the most populous and the rightest.

Fuck ignoring trolls.
Eat them. Fight them. Make it cost for them to continue to spew, make it harder for them to win the field.

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

That’s why I’m for demolishing troll’s terrible opinions, using them as a chew toy and then banning them if they don’t melt down and flounce first. Instead of just banning them immediately.

Citizen Rat
Citizen Rat
3 years ago

The phrase “little troublemaker” perfectly encapsulates the problem with (and my anger at) these sympathizers and collaborators who claim to be centrists or social conservatives, etc.: They think it’s harmless and even funny!

For them, Milo outing trans students and being a nazi is worthy of a 50’s sitcom dad chuckle and a “oh, you little scamp!”. I am done thinking of them as misguided. I hope they all step on Legos and that their chumming up to Nazis cost them their jobs.

Kimstu
Kimstu
3 years ago

OT (well, sort of on-topic in that it’s about the links between “contrarianism” and white nationalism a la Milo Y), but link to very interesting article on the path to neo-Nazism followed by “Mike Enoch”, one of the organizers of the August Charlottesville march.

Scildfreja Unnyðnes
Scildfreja Unnyðnes
3 years ago

@Frank,

I’m glad you understand the difference! No problem, and many congratulations on your realization that centrism is a whole pile of hot garbage.

I find the left-right axis to be mostly flag-waving nonsense. It maps to a center of self gradient, though, which is a lot more useful. Most left-wing people, feminists, intersectionalists, civil rights activists, etc. are concerned about people. They want policies and societies that help people live well, grow, and be happy. They consider themselves as one person amongst many, with no special privilege of perspective.

As you move away from this centre, you get progressively more and more selfish, until you’re a Nazi screaming about every minority and group but the one you belong to – and how you just happen to be the one with the perfect perspective. The sense of self shrinks and shrinks and shrinks until it’s entirely within you. And yes, I’m talking about empathy here. Calling this an Empathy gradient is just as good.

Looking at it that way, a centrist is someone whose empathy has started to collapse – the circle of who they consider fully human has shrunk. I mean, sure, they want everyone to be equal and happy, but they put that on the same footing as being able to get their Sunday coffee from Starbucks without being perturbed by protesters or the high price of fair trade coffee. They say empathetic words but they don’t actually care enough to follow through.

This isn’t to say that it’s easy to do! That’s why you’ve gotten sort of a rocky reception here, I think, Frank, even after your admission. “Leftists” have a reputation for being fractious and infighting, but it’s because we care and we want to get it right.

I hope you recognize that you got something wrong when you showed up, and that’s what the reaction is for. Seems like you do! Take your lumps, learn, and keep chatting. Empathy’s hard, and it’s inherently a path of self-destruction. But it’s very rewarding, too.

Best of luck, and welcome!

Ohlmann
Ohlmann
3 years ago

I would also add that what is now called “left-wing” encompass the globality of the political spectrum of 20 years ago on a lot of aspect. I have been said to be to the left of the french *SOCIALIST* party by my insistance on basic stuff of capitalism economy, like asking for anti-cartel regulations, for financial transparency, and for allowing customers to be well informed

Note how *none* of thoses points are about peoples. It’s just the basic need to respect *capitalism*. That’s considered left wing now, because it’s not “maximizing profits for category X”. The exact category allow to categorize if you’re a centrist, a right wing guy, or a centrist-left guy, but if you care about changing anything other than profits, then you’re left wing.

(racism is a case of “not changing anything”, hence centrist or right wing)

Makroth - cowboy Jacobin from Hell
Makroth - cowboy Jacobin from Hell
3 years ago

@Steph

How well is he doing NOW?

How have his shit-stirring ways helped him out in the long run?

History Nerd
History Nerd
3 years ago

I thought “don’t feed the trolls” was another way of saying that it’s pointless to argue with trolls, not that they shouldn’t be banned. Reddit banned content it considered hate speech for its first five years of existence. In almost all cases, the speech being banned didn’t involve any arguments because it’s coming from people who just like to complain about socially disadvantaged people. Any “arguments” were rehashed from whichever elements of some really specific far-right or far-left ideology that happened to be popular among contrarians at the time.

“Mike Enoch” claims that his fascist positions came about as part of a type of logical process. But he probably just realized he could get away with justifying his personal prejudice. There’s lots of evidence that “edgy humor” can make you more bigoted over time even if you’re being “ironic” at first.

History Nerd
History Nerd
3 years ago

What people now call right libertarianism was originally part of a “left” movement that opposed control of politics and the economy by hereditary nobles. The arguments were later appropriated by millionaires who wanted to avoid paying taxes, but the abstract ideology in itself isn’t workable under modern economic conditions. If we’re going to use the left-right spectrum for sake of having a shorthand, we need to define it primarily in terms of social and cultural issues and moral reasoning.

kupo
kupo
3 years ago

@History Nerd
It’s not pointless to argue with trolls, though. If you leave their statements uncontested, you implicitly validate them. By arguing against them, you show anyone reading that their comments are, in fact, utter shit. This is important.

Jesalin
Jesalin
3 years ago

It’s not pointless to argue with trolls, though. If you leave their statements uncontested, you implicitly validate them. By arguing against them, you show anyone reading that their comments are, in fact, utter shit. This is important.

This^

Always keep in mind, you have an audience.

When I’ve engaged with transphobic trolls, I already knew that they were, 99.9999% of the time, a lost cause. Everything I said was for the benefit of that audience. If at least one person left that conversation/thread/etc. with a better understanding , then as far as I’m concerned, it was time and effort well spent.

Rhuu - apparently an illiterati
Rhuu - apparently an illiterati
3 years ago

Arguing with trolls has a small chance of changing their ideas, but can help shape the ideas of others who are reading this, but not commenting.

It also helps show that these ideas are not accepted her, for x y and z reason when someone is reading this thread later.

And it shows people in vulnerable groups that commentors here have their back, and will pushback when someone says something shitty, which helps open up a space for them.

“Don’t feed the trolls” means ignoring them, and lets them grow and fester. If the social price of acting like a shit is high, less people will act like shits.

Or at least, they won’t act like shits *here*, which is all anyone can ever manage.

Eta: ninja’d way better by Jesalin! High fives, if wanted! (Also this is now at the end of the comment, sheeesh what a day.)

Jesalin
Jesalin
3 years ago

@Rhuu

Thanks 🙂

High five

Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
3 years ago

Re: troll ignoring
What y’all said! Also, I don’t believe Milo wants attention. He wants 1)to hurt people he doesn’t like (which seems to include himself, btw) and 2)to get validation for doing so. People arguing against him and shutting him down gets attention, but what he really craves is the ability to take that attention, show it off to his sycophants, and have them defend him/agree with him/emulate him. The attention is just the currency he uses to exchange for having his ego fluffed. He hates having his checkmark taken, but loves having assholes say Twitter only did it cos something something shitlibs yadda yadda triggered

Also troll and nazi aren’t mutually exclusive. Can’t be said enough

Jojo Mojo
Jojo Mojo
3 years ago

@Jesalin,
Though you also have to consider what’s the audience (if there even is one). The unfortunate thing about these kinds of asshats is that they are like roaches: the moment you see one, you should assume that there are at least 20 more hiding close by.

******

The problem with fuckers like Milo is that they are at a level where is a catch-22. When he does his intentionally instigative visits, you can’t ignore him because that lets them get away scott free and feeds his ego, but if you disrupt or protest him, he will claim be is being persecuted and feeds into his “dangerous” mythos.

I think that the only thing you can really do is try to one up and make him and the rest powerless. The best example i can think of is when somebody confronted Steven Spencer in public and he tried to pretend he want Spencer or that one time somebody brought him over to an interview (forgot the name but it was i think on the Oprah Channel) and just straight up railed and contradicted him.

Jesalin
Jesalin
3 years ago

Though you also have to consider what’s the audience (if there even is one). The unfortunate thing about these kinds of asshats is that they are like roaches: the moment you see one, you should assume that there are at least 20 more hiding close by.

Doesn’t matter in the least. Plus, in all likelihood the total audience would be at least 10 times that. On the internet conversations/arguments are like icebergs, the spectators vastly outnumber the commenters and are essentially invisible.

Ohlmann
Ohlmann
3 years ago

I can echo the fact that on most forum, about 90% of the traffic is invisible and don’t even have an account. Most people just read, they don’t comment.

@Jojo Mojo : I would also add, debating with someone who is really better than you at rhetoric or discourse can backfire even if you have a sensible position and not him. It can be better to jauge just how persuasive someone is before writing something. In most case, that being said, it just mean asking a bit for help for a thoughful answer and not write while enwrathed.

misophistry
misophistry
3 years ago

Always argue with trolls. That’s my policy. I eat troll for breakfast.

Weird (and tired of trumplings) Eddie
Weird (and tired of trumplings) Eddie
3 years ago

@ P.o.M.;

@Markus

https://captainawkward.com/2014/06/06/notes-from-a-boner/

Read it and at least give it a go at understanding it.

yeah. Thanx for this!!

@ Markus;

With Jessica Valenti, I think much of the hate comes from posing wearing a “I Bathe In Male Tears” t-shirt.
Similar to Lindy West wearing a t-shirt with “Give Me The Confidence of a Mediocre White Man”.

No. That’s not where it comes from. Please stop while you’re only hopelessly behind.

opposablethumbs
opposablethumbs
3 years ago

It is absolutely brilliant when you find yourself in a place where trolls get short shrift, where their blithering gets comprehensively cut to shreds. It’s refreshing and wonderful.

(parenthetically, @Ohlmann, I hope you don’t mind my saying … “enwrathed” is rather awesome. It’s such a satisfying and beautiful word and so rarely used.)

Weird (and tired of trumplings) Eddie
Weird (and tired of trumplings) Eddie
3 years ago

I eat troll for breakfast.

crumbly and dry… and not very filling.

kupo
kupo
3 years ago

Please stop while you’re only hopelessly behind

QFT

Dormousing_it
Dormousing_it
3 years ago

RE: WWTH’s link to old WHTM post about street harassment

I remember reading an article about a survey done of women who regularly used Paris’ metro. Anyway, the gist of it was that 100% of the women surveyed had been subjected to unwanted sexual attentions from men while using the metro. Some of the acts described: Men rubbing up against women; men invading a woman’s personal space; indecent exposure; crude remarks. I wish I could remember the article’s title, or where I read it.

That ‘100%’ figure really threw me. I’m a rural-dwelling person, so I have very little experience using public transportation, especially in big cities. A few times on the Washington DC metro; also, in the Netherlands as a tourist 15 years ago; that’s about it. All those times, my spouse accompanied me.

So, I think this is an illustration that a woman’s appearance, or age, or how she happens to be dressed, is beside the point, in regard to sexual harassment.

Scildfreja Unnyðnes
Scildfreja Unnyðnes
3 years ago

Always argue with trolls.

As for the whole issue shown above, the “ignore him and Milo wins, confront him and Milo wins” argument-

Mock him.

That’s what the showboating edgelords absolutely can’t stand. They desperately need to be taken seriously, or their whole act falls apart. We take them seriously, they say it was a joke and make us look emotional and angry – that’s their script. Milo needs to have someone follow him around with a tuba, making fun of everything he does.

They have no good ideas. If we take their ideas seriously by confronting them or ignoring them, they get to look like a legitimate opinion. Mock them.

(I am really bad at that tho o god pls halp)

misophistry
misophistry
3 years ago

Troll is best marinaded in hotsauce, then grilled or roasted. If you own a tenderising hammer you should use it on the troll to soften it up. Do not season, trolls are salty enough on their own.

dreemr
dreemr
3 years ago

Just nth-ing the value of arguing with trolls because of the audience.

I do it (when I have the energy) and I have even been thanked a couple of times by lurkers (literally twice lol so it’s not common AT ALL. Still, it was nice). So, FYI it works.

Sure, you don’t change a troll’s mind, but there are people reading who are still open.

Diego Duarte
Diego Duarte
3 years ago

I hate the word troll. It’s a cheap euphemism to get away with racism, misogyny, homophobia and the like.

Let’s be the fuck honest. These people imagine themselves enlightened beings because of their superior ability not to be offended by:

– Racist jokes, despite the fact they’re White.
– Sexist jokes, despite the fact they’re men.
– Homophobic jokes, despite the fact they’re straight.
– Transphobic jokes, despite the fact they’re cis-gender.
– Islamophobic jokes, despite the fact they’re Christian.

I guess it’s hard to see why they’re not offended[/sarcasm]

Dalillama: Irate Social Engineer

@History Nerd

What people now call right libertarianism was originally part of a “left” movement

No, no it wasn’t. Right-libertarianism is derived from what’s now called Classical Liberalism, which in turn was a movement to, essentially, replace mercantilism with modern capitalism, which was, and is, a far more efficient means of extracting value from subject peoples and local proletarians and concentrating it in a small group of people. Not the same small group who’d previously been in charge, but that’s not really an important distinction to anyone who isn’t part of either small group.

that opposed control of politics and the economy by hereditary nobles. The arguments were later appropriated by millionaires who wanted to avoid paying taxes,

There was no later, it was like that from day one.

but the abstract ideology in itself isn’t workable under modern economic conditions.

For values of ‘workable’ that include a decent standard of living for everyone, it never was.

If we’re going to use the left-right spectrum for sake of having a shorthand, we need to define it primarily in terms of social and cultural issues and moral reasoning.

Say what? Removing economic concerns from the left is precisely why our economy is in such a shitty state, and our infrastructure is falling apart (also racism, but for all its alleged concern with social issues, the mainstream American ‘left’ is pretty fucking unwilling to actually work on dealing with racism seriously, so, yanno).

calmdown
calmdown
3 years ago

It’s just so hard to watch someone like Milo be so successful. I have a hard time keeping my cool enough to really think about how best to deal with him. He’s by far my least favorite of all of the alt-right figures. I see the value of mocking him, especially for the sake of the audience. I can recall times when I was part of the audience that learned something from a troll argument. However, part of me still want to ignore him, but only because I think it would make him angry. That’s just an emotional reaction that I have, I don’t know that ignoring him would help anything. That seems to be what much of America is doing with people like Milo, and it doesn’t seem to have worked very well.

The truth is I’m not that good at dealing with trolls or with making arguments against them. Therefore I personally might choose to ignore them and let more skilled people destroy the trolls. That doesn’t mean I don’t fully support those who choose to engage. Eat a troll for me. 🙂

kupo
kupo
3 years ago

The truth is I’m not that good at dealing with trolls or with making arguments against them. Therefore I personally might choose to ignore them and let more skilled people destroy the trolls.

Nothing wrong with that. The problem is when people chide us for engaging. I’m not sure what they hope to accomplish, honestly, other than helping the trolls to win. What does someone gain by reciting the tired, old “don’t feed the trolls” line, anyway?

Scildfreja Unnýðnes
Scildfreja Unnýðnes
3 years ago

What does someone gain by reciting the tired, old “don’t feed the trolls” line, anyway?

A feeling of superiority, mostly!

Dormousing_it
Dormousing_it
3 years ago

I think, as Milo ages, he’ll fade from popularity. At least, I hope so.

For example, how often do you hear the name Andrew Dice Clay these days, anyway? I’m willing to bet, it’s a rare under-25 year old who knows who Clay is. Maybe even under 30 years old.

My point is, relying on shock appeal/offensiveness has a very limited shelf life.

(Andrew Dice Clay was an American one-note “comic” whose one note was misogynistic “humor”.)

Dormousing_it
Dormousing_it
3 years ago

Off-topic:

A few threads ago, I mentioned I’d gotten a new kitten, Sassy. I took her to the vet today, for the first time. She bit and scratched the hell out of my spouse’s hands, while we were trying to herd her into her carrier. I should have dug up the leather gloves beforehand.

She was OK once she was in the pro’s hands, tho’. She was like a feline Jeckyll and Hyde. The vet said she would eventually calm down.

Diptych
Diptych
3 years ago

For example, how often do you hear the name Andrew Dice Clay these days, anyway? I’m willing to bet, it’s a rare under-25 year old who knows who Clay is. Maybe even under 30 years old.

Early 30s here, and I barely know who he is, through second-hand exposure. Yep, it’s not a ticket to lasting influence.

It’s not pointless to argue with trolls, though. If you leave their statements uncontested, you implicitly validate them. By arguing against them, you show anyone reading that their comments are, in fact, utter shit. This is important.

N+1th-ing this. More than once, I’ve had to make clear that I don’t believe my debating opponent is arguing in good faith or likely to change their mind, but I’m refuting their position for anyone looking for actual reliable information on the subject. It’s also a good way to keep a clear head – I can get a bit heated when someone’s being nasty, but treating it as a job to do without engaging with them personally takes the edge off.

calmdown
calmdown
3 years ago

Andrew Dice Clay seems to be trying to make a comeback with a new show, don’t know if it will work. I hope not.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4688512/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_3

Victorious Parasol
Victorious Parasol
3 years ago

Chiming in re troll-smacking here – the audience isn’t just people who might be persuaded by the troll. Sometimes the audience includes people who have been hurt/bullied/offended by the troll but those people haven’t spoken up, for whatever reason. Smacking a troll lets those other people know that they are not alone.

Dormousing_it
Dormousing_it
3 years ago

@calmdown

Uuuugghh…talk about scraping the bottom of the barrel! Dice Clay should REMAIN in the 1980s, along with crunchy Ramen mall hair, shoulder pads, and parachute pants. It’s bad enough he had one go-around.

Miss Edgy Nation
Miss Edgy Nation
3 years ago

What does someone gain by reciting the tired, old “don’t feed the trolls” line, anyway?

Nothing, lately.

Back in the olden days (by which I mean the late 90s), one could actually vanquish trolls by ignoring them, because they would get bored and go away.
That doesn’t seem to work anymore.

dslucia
dslucia
3 years ago

@Axe “Danger” Calibur:

Also troll and nazi aren’t mutually exclusive. Can’t be said enough

Indeed, it seems more and more that there’s rather a significant overlap between the two.