By David Futrelle
In the wake of every mass shooting, we hear the inevitable cries from NRA types not to “politicize” the tragedy by pointing out the obvious fact that stricter gun laws would make such tragedies less likely in the future. We watch the trolls and shitlords of the alt-right flood the internet with disinformation and conspiracy theories. These reactions are now as predictable as the reappearance of the sun on the horizon every morning.
The internet’s incels — the bitter fringe-dwellers who consider their “involuntary celibacy” to be a crime against their humanity — have their own predictable responses to such tragedies: they mock the victims as “normies” deserving death — and try as best as they can to adopt the latest mass killer as one of their own.
In the case of last night’s horrific mass shooting in Las Vegas — a massacre that at last count left 59 dead and more than 500 injured — Reddit’s incels did not disappoint on this front. In a number of different threads devoted to the murders, regulars on the Incels subreddit celebrated the death of “normies” and “chads” and even tried to claim that mass killer Stephen Paddock — a man with a girlfriend, and thus decidedly not an incel — was “a depressed and delusional former Chad turned to oldcel.”
For many in the subreddit, the news of the mass shooting was something of an inspiration. In a thread offering faux condolences for the dozens of “normies [who] just got fragged in Las Vegas,” several commenters had similar ideas:
Those calling for basic human decency got an earful from their fellow incels.
![lonelyrommel1998 32 points 3 hours ago RIP . Please my brothers, be civil during this time of tragedy. I know you guys hate anyone that isnt you, but they are human beings nonetheless permalinkembedsavegive gold [–]novalueinvictimhoodhttps://goo.gl/2yvNyj 2 points 44 minutes ago they are human beings So? Being a modern human being is the greatest crime you can commit. permalinkembedsaveparentgive gold [–]wandercampEmbracing the sublime terror of incel existance -3 points an hour ago Fuck off normie I fapped to that video permalinkembedsaveparentgive gold [–]fuck-women-everyday23 KV Approachcel Hopecel Knowledgecel -2 points an hour ago Las Vegas is normie heaven. People go there for drinks, socializing, one night stands, and gambling. Incels will never experience that.](https://i0.wp.com/www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/inm3.png?resize=580%2C636&ssl=1)
In another thread, Reddit’s incels lashed out at the “normies” expressing sympathy for the victims on social media — and at the alleged “degeneracy” of Las Vegas.
![BlackPill4831yo bald manlet escortcel 卐 'Self improvement is masturbation' 10 points 3 hours ago I hate all this 'competitive grief' on social media. They don't give a fuck about the homeless, jobless and sexless. permalinkembedsavegive gold [–]Bojack101 6 points 3 hours ago The degenerate las vegas city deserved it](https://i0.wp.com/www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/inm6.png?resize=517%2C459&ssl=1)
![BlackPillRevolutionWeAreRevolting | Copernicus | ?NormiesCanAllBurn?| Hate 5 points 3 hours ago All virtue-signalling and posting it all over instawhore or fakebook to show how much they "care" just to fit in the rest of the conformitard sheep who do the same thing permalinkembedsavegive gold [–]touchbutt2Women can't be lonely. women can't be depressed. can't be incel 4 points 4 hours ago Exactly. they can call us evil all they want but at least we are honest. The entire degenrate city of las vegas and everyone in it could die and it wouldn't affect my day in any way](https://i0.wp.com/www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/inm4.png?resize=517%2C724&ssl=1)
The subreddit’s regulars found it much easier to identify with the shooter.
Still, it’s unlikely that Paddock, a 64-year-old retiree who apparently lived with a girlfriend, will be embraced by incels as another Elliot Rodger, the incel mass murderer celebrated as a “saint” and “supreme gentleman” by this despicable crowd. But that didn’t stop some from trying to posthumously recruit Paddock to inceldom, none more ingeniously than this fellow.
It’s a bit of a reach, given that pretty much the only things we seem to know for sure about Paddock is that he was neither a former Chad nor an incel. I guess the Incels subreddit regulars are a little hard up for, er, “heroes” these days.
The latest reports are that he sent her 100k and was gambling with 40-60k as a bankroll. Supposedly he had that kind of money to throw around, at least for a little while.
Scildfreja
Me too. 🙁
It’s hard enough to get out (I believe she is from the Philippines and has no family/support network in the US, which means leaving would have been even harder plus the stress to add from the fact that the FBI has told her to return for questioning.) and even when the asshat doesn’t go and commit mass murder the woman has to endure all kinds of speculation and insinuations. When the asshat *does* commit mass murder (or does something else that reaches outside of the relationship and drags in random people as victims) it turns into a license for her to be expressly assigned fault or have it implied that she is to blame – because society sucks and the media runs with headlines that get readers/viewers which is a symptom, part of the larger problem.
October is the month for the annual awareness campaigns of many issues, one being domestic violence. If you see someone being abused by their partner, say you are in the position of that Starbucks employee, you don’t have to throw yourself into a conflict escalation to help -small acts of kindness and provision of info done discreetly (business card with dv hotline number written on it and a quietly spoken few words to let them know it’s not ok for anyone to treat another person that way and that there are people out there who want to help) can mean a lot.
Oh, look, Pat Robertson has weighed in.
Pat Robertson Blames Vegas Shooting On Disrespect For Trump, The National Anthem And God
By Kyle Mantyla | October 2, 2017 1:27 pm
On “The 700 Club” today, televangelist Pat Robertson linked last night’s mass shooting in Las Vegas to a disrespect for President Trump, the national anthem and God.
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/pat-robertson-blames-vegas-shooting-on-disrespect-for-trump-the-national-anthem-and-god/
They already are. Because any time a man who is a domestic abuser commits a horrible, monstrous act, it’s a woman’s fault. It’s always a woman’s fault.
I just…I just hate this so much. Some TWERFs came and harassed me for like 200 comments on my facebook page cause I dared to exist within their line of sight, and now a friend of mine is dealing with some so-called feminist “allies” who are telling her she should consider it a favor that they offered to “dick her down”.
@Msexceptiontotherule
Yep.
Also, it’s good for organizations to post information about domestic violence hotlines and shelters in women’s bathrooms. My former medical group did this.
Pat Robertson is a gross old troll. Everything that comes out of his nasty mouth is the antithesis of what Christianity (supposedly) is about.
When I think of the stereotypical shitty Christian, his visage is one of those that pops up in my mind’s eye. Damn, I can’t stand that old reprobate.
Render under Caesar what is Caesar’s, you stupid old coot.
OT right wing hypocrisy: co-sponsor of the anti-abortion bill that just passed the house reportedly had an affair then pressured the woman to get an abortion when he got her pregnant.
Sound familiar? It should, there’s already a sitting R house member who had an affair, then pressured his mistress into getting an abortion, Scott Desjarlais, who has been reelected repeatedly since.
There are multiple republican house members who had an affair then pressured the woman to have an abortion despite being publicly pro-life.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/gop-rep-urged-woman-from-affair-to-get-abortion-despite-his-anti-abortion-stance/
So, when Obama was in the White House anytime something bad happened, it was because the godless liberals are running the government and god is displeased. When something bad happens under a Republican administration, it must be because those same evil godless liberals don’t respect the president. Come on, right wing assholes. Either you have to respect the president solely because they’re president or you don’t. You don’t get to spend 8 years saying or at the very least tolerating vile racist shit about Obama and then clutch your pearls when someone doesn’t like your guy.
Oh, and maybe I should let everyone live in blissful ignorance about this, but remember Gert? He’s back. He popped up on the previous page and is of course violating the comments policy. Joy.
Nope. Was I not around when Gert was here last, or is Gert just that forgettable?
Is it worth explaining the comments policy to Gert or is it just going to be ignored?
Goddamnit, Gert is fucking back?
@Calmdown, he knows about the comment policy. He doesn’t care. He’s a fucking troll.
Why did David release him from moderation?!?
@Policy of Madness
Gert is nothing more than a carbon copy troll.
@Sandra
D…do I want to know what that means?
Edit:
Gert you can kindly fuck off.
I usually ignore everything that that old ogre Pat Robertson says, but “disrespect for our president … disrespect for our court system”? Is that the president who attacked the judge in his Trump-U-Scam case on the basis that his Mexican ancestry disqualified him from handling cases involving the Trumpster?
what the actual FUCK??? HOW??? Not that Pat Robertson could string together a rationale for anything, but ???WHAT??? ?????HOW?????
IgnoreSandra, hugs if wanted
… and another thing….
I love it (and by “love it”, I mean it makes me puke) when xian fundies like Robertson are all trump-ed-up… the man is the very definition of The Seven Deadly Sins. The closest he’s EVER come to anything Jesus would recognize was when he… was when… ummm….
The only thing the xian fundie can POSSIBLY like about trump is that he hates on the same people THEY hate on…. Real christian, there, Pat….
Of course, the xian fundamentalists aren’t christian, anyway. Except for the constant name-dropping of the junior god, everything they believe comes from the Hebrew writings. “Love your neighbor”, “Help the poor”, and the ever-forgotten “Always pray in private”… well, I guess those were slipped in there by the liberals…. I had no idea George Soros was that old!!!???!!!
George just borrowed Barack’s time machine.
@Kupo
I don’t even rightly know what that means. From context, it has to mean “have sex with her”. But he’s still harassing her, and trying to insult her by calling her a lesbian. I know, he’s clearly not very good at this.
On an unrelated note, things are just hard for me right now. But when aren’t they? Ugh.
OH. NOW I see this “Gert” ass. I was wondering why comments I remembered as being on the previous page were on this one. Ugh. Can we get rid of him? Forever?
Jesus would recognize Trump as one of the same general type as the money-changers he scourged from the Temple, I should expect.
Trumplethinskin whined that Puerto Rico was “throwing the budget out of whack” while in Puerto Rico. He also threw supplies at people while he was there.
And in better news, a little boy that doctors said wouldn’t wake up, wouldn’t be able to talk if he did, and would never be able to walk, has returned home.
Adding on to the pile of “please ban skeptic”.
Brain Bleach:
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7235/7172977862_2d362d88d8.jpg
video of Trumplethinskin throwing supplies
Gert you should be banned. To use a diagnostic medical terminology in your politics is just plain bigoted and insulting.
On another level it makes you an incompetent because you are unable to describe things you feel negatively about. Note that you did no work actually tying those terms to things that resemble diagnostic criteria. That’s because you can’t.
Your supposed concern is false and entirely political.
@Weird Eddie
Those verses are darned inconvenient. As for praying in private, this is the King James version of Matthew 6:6:
Honestly, for the longest time I thought that Jesus was joking (at the expense of the Pharisees) when he said to pray “in secret.”
Nah, Jesus knew false piety and lip service when He saw it.
If you’re praying loudly and publicly it’s not for you nor for your god. Just my take on it.