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Reddit incels celebrate deaths of “normies” in Las Vegas mass shooting

Will incels embrace Stephen Paddock as the next “Saint Elliot” Rodger?

By David Futrelle

In the wake of every mass shooting, we hear the inevitable cries from NRA types not to “politicize” the tragedy by pointing out the obvious fact that stricter gun laws would make such tragedies less likely in the future. We watch the trolls and shitlords of the alt-right flood the internet with disinformation and conspiracy theories. These reactions are now as predictable as the reappearance of the sun on the horizon every morning.

The internet’s incels — the bitter fringe-dwellers who consider their “involuntary celibacy” to be a crime against their humanity — have their own predictable responses to such tragedies: they mock the victims as “normies” deserving death — and try as best as they can to adopt the latest mass killer as one of their own.

In the case of last night’s horrific mass shooting in Las Vegas — a massacre that at last count left 59 dead and more than 500 injured — Reddit’s incels did not disappoint on this front. In a number of different threads devoted to the murders, regulars on the Incels subreddit celebrated the death of “normies” and “chads” and even tried to claim that mass killer Stephen Paddock — a man with a girlfriend, and thus decidedly not an incel — was “a depressed and delusional former Chad turned to oldcel.”

For many in the subreddit, the news of the mass shooting was something of an inspiration. In a thread offering faux condolences for the dozens of “normies [who] just got fragged in Las Vegas,” several commenters had similar ideas:

wandercampEmbracing the sublime terror of incel existance 2 points an hour ago PURE LIFEFUEL

acenoskIncel Fundamentalist 10 points 8 hours ago Life fuel :)

Those calling for basic human decency got an earful from their fellow incels.

lonelyrommel1998 32 points 3 hours ago RIP . Please my brothers, be civil during this time of tragedy. I know you guys hate anyone that isnt you, but they are human beings nonetheless permalinkembedsavegive gold [–]novalueinvictimhoodhttps://goo.gl/2yvNyj 2 points 44 minutes ago they are human beings So? Being a modern human being is the greatest crime you can commit. permalinkembedsaveparentgive gold [–]wandercampEmbracing the sublime terror of incel existance -3 points an hour ago Fuck off normie I fapped to that video permalinkembedsaveparentgive gold [–]fuck-women-everyday23 KV Approachcel Hopecel Knowledgecel -2 points an hour ago Las Vegas is normie heaven. People go there for drinks, socializing, one night stands, and gambling. Incels will never experience that.

In another thread, Reddit’s incels lashed out at the “normies” expressing sympathy for the victims on social media — and at the alleged “degeneracy” of Las Vegas.

BlackPill4831yo bald manlet escortcel 卐 'Self improvement is masturbation' 10 points 3 hours ago I hate all this 'competitive grief' on social media. They don't give a fuck about the homeless, jobless and sexless. permalinkembedsavegive gold [–]Bojack101 6 points 3 hours ago The degenerate las vegas city deserved it

BlackPillRevolutionWeAreRevolting | Copernicus | 🔥NormiesCanAllBurn🔥| Hate 5 points 3 hours ago All virtue-signalling and posting it all over instawhore or fakebook to show how much they "care" just to fit in the rest of the conformitard sheep who do the same thing permalinkembedsavegive gold [–]touchbutt2Women can't be lonely. women can't be depressed. can't be incel 4 points 4 hours ago Exactly. they can call us evil all they want but at least we are honest. The entire degenrate city of las vegas and everyone in it could die and it wouldn't affect my day in any way

The subreddit’s regulars found it much easier to identify with the shooter.

NutNotBusted 9 points 3 hours ago Mass shooters have very similar life experiences to incels. They felt anger, alienation and bullying on their skin. I agree with you. In two weeks the victims, boring normies, will be forgotten, the perpetrator will be studied by armies of psychologists and journalists for decades at least..

ItheItheVOLCEL/ANTI-DEGENERACY | ON YOUR SIDE 15 points 4 hours ago* Mass shooters and some serial killers are so incredibly interesting to many of us, mostly because we can relate to their despondent rage more than anyone can. And I agree. Someone who spends years and years being pushed to the edge is more of a victim than someone who enjoyed years of hedonistic debauchery only to have it cut short.

Still, it’s unlikely that Paddock, a 64-year-old retiree who apparently lived with a girlfriend, will be embraced by incels as another Elliot Rodger, the incel mass murderer celebrated as a “saint” and “supreme gentleman” by this despicable crowd. But that didn’t stop some from trying to posthumously recruit Paddock to inceldom, none more ingeniously than this fellow.

NutNotBusted 7 points 3 hours ago Yep exactly. But this time it seems it was a depressed and delusional former Chad turned to oldcel.

It’s a bit of a reach, given that pretty much the only things we seem to know for sure about Paddock is that he was neither a former Chad nor an incel. I guess the Incels subreddit regulars are a little hard up for, er, “heroes” these days.

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Diptych
Diptych
3 years ago

Incels will never experience going to a tourist town for tourist things like drinking and socialising? That’s an incredibly low bar to refuse to clear. Doesn’t have to be Vegas; there are tourists towns all over.

Someone
Someone
3 years ago

They are vile, they cowards, they are hypocrites, they have no empathy, they celebrate the worst aspects of humanity and their entire attitude towards life basically is “If I don’t have sex, everyone deserves to die violently.”

Gee, I wonder why women don’t want to have sex with these incels.

Scildfreja Unnyðnes
Scildfreja Unnyðnes
3 years ago

If there’s one group of misogynists I find nauseating more than any other, it’s the incels.

Come on, you incel trolls that we all know are following those blog. You comment here sometimes. Come defend the statements in this post.

Ghouls.

MexicanHotChocolate
MexicanHotChocolate
3 years ago

Paddock is being described as “avid” gambler without any particular political or religious affiliations. Whatever his motivation, I doubt it had anything to do with anything that incels fetishize.

Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
3 years ago

I see that fuck-women-everyday has this message:

People go to [Las Vegas] for drinks, socializing, one night stands, and gambling. Incels will never experience that.

What about being involuntarily celibate prevents an incel from drinking, socializing (okay, possibly it’s awkward socializing), or gambling (penny slot machines!) in Las Vegas?

I’ll give fuck-women-everyday the benefit of the doubt and assume that he’s just landed here from another planet and doesn’t know that legal prostitution is just a bus ride away from Las Vegas.

Ooglyboggles
Ooglyboggles
3 years ago

We would all love to hear out your words in defense of the statements created by your fellows.

Gijoel
Gijoel
3 years ago

And yet if you so much as threaten to dox them and they’ll be up in arms.

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
3 years ago

I’ll give fuck-women-everyday the benefit of the doubt and assume that he’s just landed here from another planet and doesn’t know that legal prostitution is just a bus ride away from Las Vegas.

Incels don’t want to solicit sex workers. It goes against their principles or something. Yet more reason to call them “voluntarily celibate.”

Weird (tired of trumplings) Eddie
Weird (tired of trumplings) Eddie
3 years ago

I am too bummed to even curse…

Hippodameia
Hippodameia
3 years ago

They are so fucking disgusting.

QHS
QHS
3 years ago

And yet they wonder why no one likes them.

Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
3 years ago

@POM

Incels don’t want to solicit sex workers. It goes against their principles or something. Yet more reason to call them “voluntarily celibate.”

Okay, good to know that they have principles.

That still calls into question the logic of incels somehow being prevented from drinking, socializing, or gambling in Las Vegas.

Now I’m wondering whether incels would be able to eat, drink a soda, chew gum, or breathe in Las Vegas.

Do no incels live in Las Vegas? Is that an incel-free zone?

Uh-oh. I’ve gone down the rabbit hole of incel logic and must now somehow extricate myself.

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
3 years ago

Okay, good to know that they have principles.

Their principles are not what you probably are thinking. They have no moral objection to sex work or anything like that, they just believe that paying for sex is beneath them. Sex should be dispensed to them freely and copiously by a HB10 18-year-old virgin porn star. The fact that this doesn’t happen is clearly because they are too physically ugly and it has nothing to do with this being an unattainable fantasy (and it definitely has nothing to do with their repulsive personalities).

The incel sub has a bot that responds if you use the word “standards” in your post, Well Actually-ing you about how incel standards are not at all unrealistic.

Victorious Parasol
Victorious Parasol
3 years ago

Incels are being right royal asswipes again, I see.

Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
3 years ago

@POM

Their principles are not what you probably are thinking. They have no moral objection to sex work or anything like that, they just believe that paying for sex is beneath them.

No, that’s exactly what I thought.

And as for physical ugliness, I’ll bet that wouldn’t stand in the way of their gambling at a penny slot machine.

Oops! I’ve fallen down the rabbit hole of incel logic again.

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
3 years ago

Their principles are not what you probably are thinking. They have no moral objection to sex work or anything like that, they just believe that paying for sex is beneath them.

No, that’s exactly what I thought.

Oh, my bad then. Carry on!

Nequam
Nequam
3 years ago

Contemptible, but I think I’m angrier at Alex Jones and Pat Robertson right now.

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
3 years ago

So anyway, I’m reading a thread from the incel sub where an incel saw a couple that gave him hope and a good feeling, and the rest of the incels are trying to beat that feeling out of him.

Just in case anyone thought that they at least don’t eat their own.

personalpest
personalpest
3 years ago

Being a modern human being is the greatest crime you can commit.

That’s the clearest statement of the incel worldview I’ve ever heard.

mrex
mrex
3 years ago

@POM

“The fact that this doesn’t happen is clearly because they are too physically ugly and it has nothing to do with this being an unattainable fantasy (and it definitely has nothing to do with their repulsive personalities).”

Who says that they’re too ugly? Clearly the only problem in the world is that women are shallow assholes with shallow judgments of physical attractiveness.

Unlike incels!

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

Las Vegas is normie heaven? Really? I’ve been there a lot because my grandparents lived there and then after they died, my mom lived in their house for awhile. I’d describe it more as retiree heaven. Yes, that includes the tourist areas. No one loves slot machines and video poker and golf courses like senior citizens. Sure, there’s plenty of young partiers there too but it’s not exactly like the entire city is the Real World house.

I mean, the shooter was 64 and a regular visitor to the place. Doesn’t that tell them it’s not all young and hot Chads and Stacies?

Ken
Ken
3 years ago

I feel sorry for incels. It’s an intrusive thought pride rally. They’re depressed, and/or socially awkward and have taken every horrible thing they’ve thought about themselves and built a community around it. It’s toxic. This is just them being angry and bitter, because being angry and bitter is supported and reinforced there. As I said, it’s toxic.

Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
3 years ago

@POM

So anyway, I’m reading a thread from the incel sub where an incel saw a couple that gave him hope and a good feeling, and the rest of the incels are trying to beat that feeling out of him.

That reminds me of an incident that occurred decades ago. I was in a very bad relationship and couldn’t help but have a jaundiced view of most men. I was in a grocery store and almost ran into another shopper’s cart with my own. This shopper was a not-buff, not-handsome guy, and I had dark thoughts about him, just because. Then this guy gave me a really nice smile. That man and his smile gave me hope.

Yay for random strangers who are good people!

Bananananana dakry: Short-Haired, Fat, and Deranged
Bananananana dakry: Short-Haired, Fat, and Deranged
3 years ago

They’re too in love with their hatred and their anger and bitterness to ever give it up, even for non-sexual forms of entertainment and happiness. Even if they finally did get their ends wet, they would move the goalposts and find a way to spin and pervert it into further rage and bitterness.

I have no capacity to feel sorry for them anymore. They’ve made their own bed of suffering, they can lie in it. I feel sorry for the people who try to get out and whom they they try to drag back into it, and I feel sorry for the casualties inflicted as a side effect of their hate addiction, but I’ve got no energy left to waste on these sad excuses for wasted lives.

kupo
kupo
3 years ago

I feel sorry for incels

Don’t. Especially not after another fucking shooting where they fucking hold the guy up as some kind of saint. Don’t.

Ooglyboggles
Ooglyboggles
3 years ago

@Ken
Please don’t. Not when they’re praising a murderer as their saint. Your pity is misplaced and should have been put more in the victims rather then those who relish the deaths of others.

Haise, the husky puppy
Haise, the husky puppy
3 years ago

Incels will never experience.. vacation destinations? So they’re pretty much confirming (and I suppose living up to) at this point that they’re the true stereotype of basement dwellers never leaving the home, perpetually on their computers, wasting away, hating everyone – themselves the most.

@POM

Hope defeats their agenda. They’d much rather wallow in their self-pity, hatred and actively beat the empathy out of them and each other.

brian
brian
3 years ago

don’t forget that incels argued it should be illegal (punishable by death, I believe) to try to help incels, via, say, therapy, medication, or other mental health practices.
I bring this up primarily because even with the input of commenters here I couldn’t grok that point of view except to finally guess that they are so entrenched in the incel belief system they can’t imagine giving up that misery and just want everyone else to be miserable too and to punish anyone who isn’t.
that’s just the only way I can comprehend them.
feel free to correct me if I’m wrong…

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
3 years ago

I feel sorry for incels. It’s an intrusive thought pride rally. They’re depressed, and/or socially awkward and have taken every horrible thing they’ve thought about themselves and built a community around it. It’s toxic. This is just them being angry and bitter, because being angry and bitter is supported and reinforced there. As I said, it’s toxic.

Save your empathy for people who aren’t spitting on the graves of the murdered and laughing at the wounded.

PeeVee the (Tired of the Militant Plasticfaced) Sarcastic
PeeVee the (Tired of the Militant Plasticfaced) Sarcastic
3 years ago

Being a modern human being is the greatest crime you can commit.

That’s the clearest statement of the incel worldview I’ve ever heard.

And his usernym is novalueinvictimhood.

The lack of self-awareness is quite stunning.

Tovius
Tovius
3 years ago

These people make me want to vomit. They’re dispicable.

Robert Walker-Smith
Robert Walker-Smith
3 years ago

I realize that it’s a low bar, but the quoted incels make me feel validated in my life choices.

I read a novel recently, in which the protagonist thinks to himself that he hates love and loves hate. I had thought that was merely empurpled prose, but these capering grotesques seem to have immanentized the concept.

IgnoreSandra
3 years ago

Incels talk about Las Vegas the same way Caesar’s Legion talks about Las Vegas in Fallout: New Vegas. It’s all “degenerate this” and “crime” that.

I’m having intense thoughts about incels I can’t put here, especially their constant CHOICE, and it is a choice, to idolize and follow mass murderers. This is giving credence to an argument I’ve heard that says the name and face of mass murderers shouldn’t be published – that we should focus on the victims, the fallen and survivors alike.

Ken
Ken
3 years ago

@Policy,

My empathy is not an exhaustible resource. Obviously, my sympathies go out to the victims and their families. It must have been horrifying to just be there, let alone get shot. But, I just find the whole incel thing sad. Some of them could have been helped and become somewhat functional adults, but now they’re just wallowing in their own misery as it turns them into awful people.

magn0lia
magn0lia
3 years ago

under less tragic circumstances, watching incels froth about “normies” without a trace of irony or self-awareness is a joy to behold.

straight white nerdboys bitter that women won’t fuck them are as common as weeds, and about as interesting. i knew at least 50 of these guys in high school.

Anonymous
Anonymous
3 years ago

Loneliness & frustration perverts people.
They don’t understand how relationships work, so they curse what they want most.

They feel cursed, so they curse those who they perceive as effortlessly having what they can’t have.
They spit on innocent, murdered people because they feel like they have nothing to live for.

They’ve been sick and twisted, for so long.

Nikki the Bluth Wannabe
Nikki the Bluth Wannabe
3 years ago

I don’t know if I can say anything about the shooting that isn’t either a comments policy violation or completely inappropriate gallows humor (I personally like both making and hearing gallows humor, but I think it’s too soon at this point), so I’m just gonna use this space to write a brief letter to one of the OPs from Reddit, who, on top of his reprehensible ideology and support of the shooter, also did something that I know is unimportant but still find annoying.

Dear asshole who goes by “Bojack101,”
Stop sullying the good name of a perfectly good depressing cartoon and its lead character. Stop improperly capitalizing it ,too.
Sincerely,
Nikki

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

My empathy is not an exhaustible resource.

Yeah, well our ability to deal with people (usually men) feeling bad for the men who want us raped, enslaved or murdered is an exhaustible resource.

When you pity members of hate groups, you send the message that the targets of that hate don’t matter all that much whether or not that’s the message you intend to send.

I’ve got no problem with you or anyone else feeling bad for misogynists but it’s not a thought that needs to be expressed all the time. Particularly in a space that is heavily populated with women.

kupo
kupo
3 years ago

Yeah, well our ability to deal with people (usually men) feeling bad for the men who want us raped, enslaved or murdered is an exhaustible resource.

A thousand times this.

Ooglyboggles
Ooglyboggles
3 years ago

Yeah, well our ability to deal with people (usually men) feeling bad for the men who want us raped, enslaved or murdered is an exhaustible resource.

This, this, this and this.

Redsilkphoenix: Jetpack Vixen, Agent of the FemiNest Collective; Keeper of a Hell Toupee, and all-around Intergalactic Meanie
Redsilkphoenix: Jetpack Vixen, Agent of the FemiNest Collective; Keeper of a Hell Toupee, and all-around Intergalactic Meanie
3 years ago

Of the two threads currently up, this seems like the best spot to leave this link:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/read-cole-sprouses-powerful-take-on-whiteness-and-mass-shootings_us_59d27a4be4b048a443242dbc?ncid=edlinkushpmg00000313

Perhaps he might at least get the conversation started among the folks who don’t normally think about such things?

abars01
abars01
3 years ago

“Las Vegas is normie heaven. People go there for drinks, socializing, one night stands, and gambling. Incels will never experience that.”

OMFG!!!!!

You want to drink? Here’s what you do. Save up $20 dollars. Go to a bar. Order a beer. Drink it. Bam. You’ve drank.

You want to socialize? Here’s what you do. Go to a bar. Sit at the counter. Turn to the guy next to you. Say “Hi, my name’s [X], what’s yours?” Go from there. Bam. You’ve socialized.

You want to gamble? Here’s what you do. Save up $20 dollars. Go to a bar. Find a person watching a sports match on TV. Tell them you’ll bet them $20 dollars that team [X] is gonna win the match. Watch the match. If team [X] wins, pick up $20 dollars. If team [X] loses, pay the other person $20 dollars. Bam. You’ve gambled.

You a want a one-night-stand? Here’s what you do. Save up $200 dollars. Look up “[my city] escorts” on Google. Click the top link. Find an escort you like. Call her. Wait until she arrives. Have sex with her. Pay her. Bam. You’ve had a one-night-stand.

It isn’t fucking rocket science, you great putzes!!!!!

Oh, but who am I kidding. You people already know perfectly well that there is nothing stopping you from doing the above things. Hell, you don’t actually even want to do those things. You just pretend that there is, and that you do, and refrain from doing them, because you want to continue your petulant whining.

Skeptic
Skeptic
3 years ago

*Feeling* schadenfreude as the only source of “joy” you have left, or that your situation is hopeless and nobody can help you, I can understand. Those are thoughts typical of depression. What I CANNOT understand is publicly *boasting* of such feelings, or wanting to make it *illegal* to try and help you.

Turtle
Turtle
3 years ago

Sorry to go Godwin, but the use of the words ‘degenerate’ or ‘degeneracy’ unironically seems a pretty reliable indicator of Nazi virtue signalling.

Ooglyboggles
Ooglyboggles
3 years ago
Shadowplay
Shadowplay
3 years ago

@Skeptic

They’ve got nothing else but their hate. Take that away by helping them, and what’s left of them?

How they seem to see it, anyroad.

@Jessalin – from another thread.

🙂 Pleased you are recovering. Be well.

Skeptic
Skeptic
3 years ago

@shadowplay – the cynical part of me agrees with you, saying that the expalanation is simple: just because you suffer from depression doesn’t mean you cannot also be a grade-A A-hole.

But I doubt if that is the correct explanation. It seems to me the depression and hate/rage of these people feed on each other. They become more and more of both as time goes by, until they hit bottom and the result is what you see on the incel subreddit.

This is an unscientific, personal impression. It is the best I can do, however, since I checked, but there do not seem many serious psychological or sociological studies about incels. Perhaps there should be more.

Shadowplay
Shadowplay
3 years ago

I feel sorry for the researcher who takes the task on – needed though it may be!

I’m thinking now, and hitting a small stumbling block. While there are certainly incels with depression – that’s a certainty based on depression being an invasive sod – the combination of depression and massive entitlement seem to me to be really odd partners.

The few (less than 20, so a small and biased sample) people I know with depression don’t really do entitlement.

antisocialite
antisocialite
3 years ago

It’s interesting how they proudly claim that they couldn’t care less if people live or die, but they expect others to care that they don’t have sex.

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