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John McCain says no: Today in Tweets

Senator Bill Cassidy, would-be healthcare-stealing goblin

By David Futrelle

John McCain announces that he’s now a “no” vote on the Graham-Cassidy anti-healthcare bill, and gets hailed as a “hero,” proving that the  standards for “heroism” amongst Republican senators is pretty damn low. But if McCain is your senator, you should probably call to thank him for this minimal act of human decency.

Meanwhile, millions of Puerto Ricans remain in dire straights, without power and water — and, sadly, without much media coverage. And Mexico City continues to dig out from last week’s earthquake.

Here’s Johnny:

https://twitter.com/BenjySarlin/status/911307015703670784

https://twitter.com/ChrisWarcraft/status/911306765559402497

https://twitter.com/maxsparber/status/911301004511072256

(Note: Murkowski’s people say they welcome calls from out of state. Hint hint.)

And now to Puerto Rico, a place the media seems to have largely forgotten:

Puerto Rico:

More options here if you want to help Puerto Rico (or the other islands in the Caribbean that have been hit hard by Irma and Maria).

Here’s what it looks like in Mexico City today:

In other news:

Leftists didn’t kill it; it was killed by the sheer incopetence of Milo ‘n’ pals, who failed to fill out the paperwork to reserve rooms or even contact some of the touted speakers to tell them they’d been invited. It’s almost as if they never intended the event to happen in the first place.

https://twitter.com/Kherman112/status/911285209777160192

In “bad but completely expected news.”

More bullshit poop crap:

https://twitter.com/MuslimIQ/status/910284960610836480

Kitties!

https://twitter.com/BBAnimals/status/910987122018062338

Ok, technically none of those were kitties.

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numerobis
numerobis
7 years ago

I don’t know who Nikki Reed is, but holy hell. Also: one more reason the IUDs should be made more accessible — your asshole boyfriend can’t just throw it out.

numerobis
numerobis
7 years ago

IP: the 2012 had a majority voting for changing the status quo, and a second question where far fewer voted.

The second question was a majority for statehood, but the construction of the plebiscite makes it ambiguous (on purpose, likely): Sure most voted for change and most of those who favored for change voted for statehood, but only a small minority voted for statehood.

The 1998 plebiscite had nearly half vote for statehood, but not quite half. I recall one of the major post-truth issues being bandied about was that federal tax plus territorial tax would be a lot! (Of course, upon becoming a state, the state would drop its tax a lot, and likely the overall tax rate would fall. But lies and pants.)

Imaginary Petal
Imaginary Petal
7 years ago

@numerobis

Sure, it’s all a bit confusing. However, 61% voting for statehood, with a voter turnout of 57%, is significant enough. That’s a better turnout than the 2016 US general election, and 61% there would be considered a massive landslide.

Gussie Jives
Gussie Jives
7 years ago

Just on the topic of Puerto Rico… it’s kinda funny in retrospect when I consider how little I contemplated it as a part of the United States until I watched the MST3K episode The Beast of Yucca Flats, which included two of my favourite shorts, one of which was of course:

Progress Island, USA!

Obviously trying to sell mainlanders on the upsides of the island circa the 70s, the one credit I’ll give it is that it thumbnails the critical exports that Puerto Rico has to the mainland United States: sugar, pharmaceuticals, and electronics incentivized by a low tax rate. But I just thought it was a goofy kitschy tourism ad until I went to the Redpath Sugar Museum in Toronto a couple years ago as part of Doors Open Toronto. The Redpath Sugar Refinery is a staple of the Toronto waterfront; there’s usually an enormous ship in port offloading sugar and to see the gigantic unrefined sugar mountain in its central warehouse will drop your jaw. But it was inside that museum that really get an appreciation of its history as a consumer product and just how exploitative its cultivation was and is to this day. There was a map inside with pins on all the sugar refineries around the world and right on the equator, particularly in the Caribbean and Central America, there was just no room to see the map, it was so full of pins.

In the 19th century, the Redpath family rivaled the Molsons in prominence, particularly in the Anglophone-Quebecois circles of the era, and John Redpath himself had a huge hand in the growth of Montreal, namely with the development of the Lachine Canal. McGill University’s Redpath Museum and Redpath Library were both donated by Peter Redpath, John’s son, in the late 19th century.

Seriously, that was the power of sugar money back then. Europe loved its sweets and rum, so much so that you’ll find sugar magnate names everywhere you turn without even realizing it. Sir Henry Tate, of Tate Gallery fame, was a sugar magnate. And all that money built on the backs of Amerindian or Afro-Caribbean workers for practically slave conditions in Jamaica, Hispaniola and of course Puerto Rico. Sugar cane harvesting is a dangerous occupation to this day.

Of course, the Puerto Rican sugar industry collapsed after WWII in favour of the cheap-labour manufacturing industry, primarily for pharmaceuticals. Restrictions on shipping imposed by the American government and its dependence on imports has squeezed the people to the breaking point. The Ponce Massacre remains a stark reminder of how the US government has abused Puerto Rico in the past and its putative shipping laws continue to punish the people living there.

Sam Seder had a great interview with Nelson Denis on the subject of America’s colonial abuse of Puerto Rico. Highly recommend watching the full interview on YouTube:

Hambeast, disorderly she-tornado and breaker of windows
Hambeast, disorderly she-tornado and breaker of windows
7 years ago

Belated congrats and best wishes for Sandra, I wish you a speedy recovery!

re: ST:Discovery, the cliffhanger ending is a new thing as far as I can tell. I’m shaking my head over yet another re-imagining of the Klingon race’s appearance, though.

I was heartened by the NFL response to Dumpster’s bow-down-to-a-symbol-or-else tweets. Not enough to start being a fan again, though. I think the tweeter-in-chief feels that this protest is a personal affront.

I’ve been kind of absent, too, from the blog; between keeping up with Catbeast’s meds schedule, work being done on two houses, and a new obsession with making gift boxes, there are days when I don’t even read. Which is very unusual and strange to realize!

Buttercup Q. Skullpants
Buttercup Q. Skullpants
7 years ago

@WWTH:

What is Trump trying to accomplish by alienating football and basketball fans? That’s a big chunk of the electorate and it’s especially a big chunk of the male electorate. It really doesn’t make sense to me.

It’s a shiny object to get everyone to look away from the Russian investigation.

He’s probably feeling a little short on narcissistic supply, too, what with all the natural disasters in the headlines recently. Whenever the news cycle starts to gravitate towards something else, Trump will pick a fight with some celebrity, organization, or Broadway musical, just to keep the spotlight on himself. He’s not a president so much as a WWE ringmaster, full of bluster and throwdowns. His base loves cartoon villainy.

There’s no strategy behind his Twitter feuds. He’s just blindly lashing out at anyone he thinks isn’t showing sufficient fealty, heedless of how much damage it’s doing. Over time, it’s going to have the effect of alienating ever larger segments of the population (but never his 35% base, for whom hatred supersedes everything else). There’s only so many targets he can bash before it starts hitting too close to home for white moderates. His ego won’t let him stop.

I’m heartened to see so many vets coming out in support of the kneeling protests. It’s high time we stopped pretending football games are patriotic events. It’s high time the right stopped fetishizing the flag as a stand-in for the military. Of all people, Orange Caligula has the least standing to insist on respect for the flag because troops. He’s a draft dodging chickenhawk who insults POWs, Gold Star moms, Purple Heart recipients, and vets with PTSD. People who’ve sacrificed for the country – ACTUALLY sacrificed, not just avoided STDs – make him feel small and inadequate. He spits on the flag every single day, with every hateful tweet, every executive order, every First Amendment threat, every race-baiting dog whistle vuvuzela he embeds in his speeches.

By making it about the flag and disrespect, he’s ginning up outrage among his base and trying to draw attention away from the epidemic of white-on-black police brutality in this country.

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
7 years ago

wrt Puerto Rico, taxation without representation, etc.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insular_Cases

The SCOTUS explicitly ruled that Constitutional and other protections don’t extend to non-white people, because they are non-white and therefore don’t hold white principles. This is still valid law.

For real.

Gussie Jives
Gussie Jives
7 years ago

@Buttercup

By making it about the flag and disrespect, he’s ginning up outrage among his base and trying to draw attention away from the epidemic of white-on-black police brutality in this country.

Unfortunately, I think it’s working. I’ve seen news agencies all over the place misreporting the Kaepernick’s taking-a-knee as a protest against Trump, when it was against the epidemic of police brutality against African-Americans and began while Obama was in office. But if more and more major sports figures take this stand… this is the kind of thing that can signal a major paradigm shift in the way racial dynamics are discussed in America, and has the potential to completely implode Trump’s base. Sure, a lot of his supporters have put all their cultural credit chips in Trump’s basket, but only as a function of grievance; if that grievance butts up against the NFL–not only the most profitable league in North American pro sports, but also the most culturally significant–Trump is not winning that fight. Families that make gridiron football a touchstone aren’t going to sever that connection just because their temporary grievance talisman tells them to. As more players on more teams across pro sports start taking knees… I can see this starting a chain reaction.

The X factor will be ownership. Will owners stand behind their players, or will we get Harold Ballard-style “let’s sabotage the team because they’ll make money anyway” crapola? I’m curious to see where this goes.

Weird (and tired of trumplings) Eddie
Weird (and tired of trumplings) Eddie
7 years ago

@ PoM;

From the wiki:

Former Puerto Rico Supreme Court Chief Justice José Trías Monge contends that the Insular Cases were based on premises that would be considered bizarre today, such as:[9]

Democracy and colonialism are “fully compatible”.
There is “nothing wrong when a democracy such as the United States engages in the business of governing other” subjects that have not participated in their democratic election process.
People are not created equal, some races being superior to others.
It is the “burden of the superior peoples, the white man’s burden, to bring up others in their image, except to the extent that the nation which possesses them should in due time determine”.[9]

… seems to me that one of the issues being debated today, especially vis-a-vis Puerto Rico is “are these premises ‘bizarre’, or they still valid”.

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
7 years ago

seems to me that one of the issues being debated today, especially vis-a-vis Puerto Rico is “are these premises ‘bizarre’, or they still valid”.

Nothing bizarre about racism. It’s the most banal thing in the world.

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
7 years ago

In particular, see Downes v Bidwell:

http://caselaw.findlaw.com/us-supreme-court/182/244.html

There’s a ton of racism in there and I strongly encourage you to read the whole thing, but here’s the money shot:

If those possessions are inhabited by alien races, differing from us in religion, customs, laws, methods of taxation, and modes of thought, the administration of government and justice, according to Anglo-Saxon principles, may for a time be impossible; and the question at once arises whether large concessions ought not to be made for a time, that ultimately our own theories may be carried out, and the blessings of a free government under the Constitution extended to them. We decline to hold that there is anything in the Constitution to forbid such action.

In other words, they ain’t white and don’t think like white people, therefore: fuck ’em.

eta: I also found this while looking for the exact case.

http://digitalcommons.law.yale.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1652&context=ylpr

I haven’t read it in full so I can’t endorse it, but it looks like a well-done analysis so far.

Jenora Feuer
Jenora Feuer
7 years ago

WRT Trump and football:

I’ve long considered that one of the major driving forces in U.S. politics boils down to ‘You can’t tell me what to do!’. Sure, that’s a fairly generic human thing, but the U.S. culture has raised it to a force of nature capable of wiping out all else before it.

Trump just made the mistake of telling a whole lot of wealthy NFL franchise owners what to do. Yelling at the players he might have been able to get away with. Insisting that teams fire anybody who protested… that got the other rich white boys into defensive mode.

Trump’s doing a wonderful job of alienating his natural allies because he has no real concept of ‘allies’ in general.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
7 years ago

The Brighton Mammotheer contingent might find this amusing.

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opposablethumbs
opposablethumbs
7 years ago

Thank you for the laugh, Alan. There are some nice replies, it seems … such as this:

For those dimwits who think the Brighton Pavilion is a mosque – please be reassured that Mecca Bingo is just a night out for pensioners.

Martin Rowson’s latest cartoon is leaning more frightening than funny, though (complete with melt-down-trump):
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/picture/2017/sep/25/martin-rowson-far-right-germany-uk-us-europe-eu-cartoon

(not sure how best to link)

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/picture/2017/sep/25/martin-rowson-far-right-germany-uk-us-europe-eu-cartoon#img-1

Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
7 years ago

Bonus: See Paul’s username, with the eight random digits? That means he’s one of Putin’s paid trolls/bots.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
7 years ago

Order a thousand pairs of finest cotton socks; take out the drawings for that beach hut at Brighton…

Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
7 years ago

@Axecalibur

@Moggie

@Kat, is the US even capable of having a “conversation about race” any more? Genuine question.

Sure, we’re capable of having a conversation about race.

The question is, do we have the will.

If we don’t, we need to summon the will. We need everyone on board to fight potential climate catastrophe.

@Kat

If we don’t, we need to summon the will. We need everyone on board to fight potential climate catastrophe

Hey, maybe when discussing whether or not black people’s lives matter, ya know, that as a group and as individuals we are entitled to the inherent value, dignity, and rights of human beings, it’d be prudent not to make the answer contingent on whether or not our struggle will advance your chosen issue. Not the best look is all…

My bad.

I made two mistaken assumptions:

1) That it would be obvious that, given that I’d like all people to join the fight against climate change, I believe all people have inherent value.

2) That all readers of WHTM — except for some trolls — see the merit of mitigating climate change.

Bobbie la Bomb
Bobbie la Bomb
7 years ago

It’s not so much that he’s a hero, But McCain is the lemming that stands to the side and says, “What the FUCK are you doing, running off the cliff? I’m not doing that!!”

I mean, the metaphor falls apart considering that the senators will be fine, and it’s us being flung off the cliff. But if he can help that not happen, I’ll be grateful for at least that much.

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
7 years ago

@Kat

While your assumptions are both true, I believe, the climate change thing seemed to come out of nowhere. A conversation about race needs to be had, yet again, full stop. It doesn’t need to be done for the sake of climate change, though. It needs to be done for its own sake, not as the instrumentality of some other goal.

Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
7 years ago

@Kat

Passive-aggressiveness is not a good look.

Passive-aggressiveness that boils down to telling a black man that if he cares about climate change then he should go to the back of the bus and put your pet cause before his own life is an even worse look.

Seriously, that was uncharacteristically gross of you. =/

kupo
kupo
7 years ago

Re: Voyager
I remember people calling it the PC Star Trek because it had a woman captain, a black Vulcan (which they claimed went against canon), and a native American crew member. Most of these people were okay with the series once Seven made an appearance.

Ooglyboggles
7 years ago

Btw Graham Cassidy bill dead because 3 gop members said no.
https://www.google.com/amp/amp.usatoday.com/story/702249001/

Yay 4-0 on our side, now for the love of Makoda can the gop just stay down.

Oh and Trump blames Puerto Rico for their infrastructure problems and getting hit by a hurricane.

Button
Button
7 years ago

Oh my fucking god there is a goddamn MGTOW recruitment ad in the New York Times.

https://donotlink.it/ery9 because I’m not giving them the satisfaction of our pageviews with this shitbait.

It’s got Paul Elam, Warren Farrell, the whole goddamn nine yards. As though they’re experts in gender disparities in the tech world, amirite?

Highlights:

Two men who worked at Yahoo sued the company for gender discrimination last year. Their lawyer, Jon Parsons, said the female leadership — Yahoo’s chief executive was Marissa Mayer, before Verizon bought the company — had gone too far in trying to hire and promote women. He tied the suit into today’s women-in-tech movement.

“When you’re on a mission from God to set the world straight, it’s easy to go too far,” Mr. Parsons said. “There was no control over women hiring women.”

I want to gift Mr. Parsons a clue bat with a copy of The Man Who Has It All strapped on for this stunningly obtuse double standard.

He said that his clients, Greg Anderson and Scott Ard, had faced gender discrimination in Yahoo’s media teams and that other teams like cars were headed by women, which to Mr. Parsons was a sign of problems.

“No eyebrows are going to rise if a woman heads up fashion,” Mr. Parsons said. “But we’re talking about women staffing positions — things like autos — where it cannot be explained other than manipulation.”

But we’re the real sexists!

Mr. Altizer leads Bay Area Fathers’ Rights, a monthly support group for men to talk about the issues they uniquely face. He became interested in the community after a divorce and said his eyes were opened to how few rights men have. As for the numbers of women in tech, the effort for parity is absurd, he said.

“I’ve been on the hiring side for years,” Mr. Altizer said, adding that he is not currently hiring people. “It would be nice to have women, but you cannot find applicants.”

A. Yes you fucking can. I spent years getting turned down for entry-level tech jobs, mostly at the phone screen stage. And speaking as someone who’s been on the other side of phone screens for five years now, it was not because I was fucking unqualified.

As it turns out, there are a ton of women in tech – they’ve just been relegated to the ghetto of testing, because no one in the US will goddamn hire any of us for entry-level “development” jobs.

B. Yeah, sure, I bet you’d love to hire women, Mr. Father’s Rights Activist. What the fuck ever.

C. To give you an idea of what an absolute propaganda fuckfest this article is, this is the sentence it ends on. That is how fucking biased this poorly-researched piece of shit is. @NellieBowles should feel a-goddamned-shamed of themselves for this drivel. Fuck off.

Haise, the husky puppy
Haise, the husky puppy
7 years ago

Amazing. Just 3 gop members are given the medal of meeting the bare minimum of a decent human. 3.

Oh and Trump blames Puerto Rico for their infrastructure problems and getting hit by a hurricane.

China is behind the climate change hoax and Puerto Ricans should just pick up the island and move it somewhere else. When is he getting impeached.. but is Pence even better..

Ooglyboggles
7 years ago

@Haise, the husky puppy
And that was mostly b/c the GOP couldn’t decide between less evil or more evil.

but is Pence even better

Tbh probably not, he would have also rendered the epa into nothingness.

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