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John McCain says no: Today in Tweets

Senator Bill Cassidy, would-be healthcare-stealing goblin

By David Futrelle

John McCain announces that he’s now a “no” vote on the Graham-Cassidy anti-healthcare bill, and gets hailed as a “hero,” proving that the  standards for “heroism” amongst Republican senators is pretty damn low. But if McCain is your senator, you should probably call to thank him for this minimal act of human decency.

Meanwhile, millions of Puerto Ricans remain in dire straights, without power and water — and, sadly, without much media coverage. And Mexico City continues to dig out from last week’s earthquake.

Here’s Johnny:

https://twitter.com/BenjySarlin/status/911307015703670784

https://twitter.com/ChrisWarcraft/status/911306765559402497

https://twitter.com/maxsparber/status/911301004511072256

(Note: Murkowski’s people say they welcome calls from out of state. Hint hint.)

And now to Puerto Rico, a place the media seems to have largely forgotten:

Puerto Rico:

More options here if you want to help Puerto Rico (or the other islands in the Caribbean that have been hit hard by Irma and Maria).

Here’s what it looks like in Mexico City today:

In other news:

Leftists didn’t kill it; it was killed by the sheer incopetence of Milo ‘n’ pals, who failed to fill out the paperwork to reserve rooms or even contact some of the touted speakers to tell them they’d been invited. It’s almost as if they never intended the event to happen in the first place.

https://twitter.com/Kherman112/status/911285209777160192

In “bad but completely expected news.”

More bullshit poop crap:

https://twitter.com/MuslimIQ/status/910284960610836480

Kitties!

https://twitter.com/BBAnimals/status/910987122018062338

Ok, technically none of those were kitties.

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Still Fiqah
Still Fiqah
7 years ago

@Kat @Dormousing_it: He’s really a terrible person…and he’s STILL better than Trump.

Sheila Crosby
7 years ago

@Jeselin I hope it all goes really well. Sending good thoughts your way.

Tovius
Tovius
7 years ago

@Robert Walker-Smith
You’re not alone. I was very confused for a long while.

@Jesalin
Safe travels! I hope it goes well.

Mish of the Catlady Ascendancy
Mish of the Catlady Ascendancy
7 years ago

@Jesalin,
You’re incredibly brave and amazing. Please let us know how you go, if you’d like to <3 <3 <3

@OoglyBoggles,
I've been a very sporadic and occasional Mammotheer lately, so I'm embarrassed to confess that I only just caught up with your current life-changing events! Congratulations and tons of warm wishes 😀

Phrenology – yep, me too for a second there…

Dalillama: Irate Social Engineer

@Jesalin

Hope all goes smoothly and your recovery is brief.

History Nerd
History Nerd
7 years ago

The Berkeley Patriot student group runs a tiny conservative publication, which now operates as a blog though they used to make a print magazine. They invited Milo to speak on campus because they felt he had a right to speak even though some members didn’t necessarily agree with him, but they couldn’t figure out how to publicize the event or talk to the press. In the middle of the confusion, Milo apparently stepped in and took complete control of the marketing and logistics for the event, including issuing announcements and advertising without approval from Berkeley Patriot. It looks like Milo’s marketing MO for the event involved aggressively courting media hype, deliberately provoking a possibly violent confrontation with people on the extreme left, and creating a general sense of fear, uncertainty, and doubt around the event (putting people like Charles Murray on the speakers list when he won’t collaborate with Milo, etc.).

I’m more free speech absolutist on the general issue of campus speakers, but Milo definitely comes out of this looking like a complete scumbag who deserves a reputation worse than the one he already has.

https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2017/09/23/amid-confusion-uc-berkeley-students-considered-rescinding-yiannopolous-invite/

Victorious Parasol
Victorious Parasol
7 years ago

Good luck, Jesalin!

History Nerd
History Nerd
7 years ago

Charles Murray (the one who’s the co-author of The Bell Curve) called Milo a “despicable asshole.”

https://www.mediaite.com/online/despicable-ahole-charles-murray-slams-milo-yiannopoulos-for-fake-berkeley-event-lineup/

KindaSortaHarmless
KindaSortaHarmless
7 years ago

@History Nerd

It’s been a while since I graduated from UC Berkeley, but as I remember it, the California Patriot was a publication of the Berkeley College Republicans. BCR might have spun it off into a separate student group on its own, I wouldn’t know the specifics.

…aggressively courting media hype, deliberately provoking a possibly violent confrontation with people on the extreme left, and creating a general sense of fear, uncertainty, and doubt around the event

This, however, hasn’t changed much. Back in my student days, BCR was basically a troll group, delighting in being as offensively conservative as they could while still maintaining a veneer of civility so that they could screech “freedumb of speech!” whenever somebody called them out. This recent Milo business and Frozen Peaches Fortnight is basically same shit, different toilet paper.

Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
7 years ago

@Mish, @OoglyBoggles

@OoglyBoggles,
I’ve been a very sporadic and occasional Mammotheer lately, so I’m embarrassed to confess that I only just caught up with your current life-changing events!

Me too, Mish.

OoglyBoggles, sending you my best wishes.

Pie
Pie
7 years ago

@numerobis

Dormousing and Pie: yinz is talking about phenology.

That’s a new word for me. Thanks!

Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
7 years ago

@numerobis

yinz is talking about phenology.

Yinz? It sounds as though you’ve spent time in my hometown, Pittsburgh.

Moggie
Moggie
7 years ago

KindaSortaHarmless:

This, however, hasn’t changed much. Back in my student days, BCR was basically a troll group, delighting in being as offensively conservative as they could while still maintaining a veneer of civility so that they could screech “freedumb of speech!” whenever somebody called them out. This recent Milo business and Frozen Peaches Fortnight is basically same shit, different toilet paper.

I certainly don’t have enough data points to be able to say “just like every conservative student group everywhere”. But it really seems like an immature need to shock and provoke is a motivating factor in many conservative student groups – and has been since at least the time I was at university, nearly forty years ago.

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee
weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee
7 years ago

Anyone else feeling put off by History Nerd’s constant need to point out that they’re a free speech absolutist every time hate speech on college campuses is brought up? It seems to imply an unspoken “unlike the rest of you alt-left fascists” tacked on there somewhere.

Never mind that protesting a speaker is not even a denial of their free speech…

numerobis
numerobis
7 years ago

Kat: I’ve been dahntahn a few times, but mostly I just piled it high and deep in squill and Oakland. It’s my other home town.

About Berkeley: I recall a pride parade there where the Berkeley College Republicans were chanting “Bush! And Dick! The perfect combination!” (They might have been imposters, maybe.)

Ah, the good ol’ days when Bush and Dick were unbelievably bad. Now they’d be a breath of fresh air!

Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
7 years ago

@Nerd

They invited Milo to speak on campus because they felt he had a right to speak even though some members didn’t necessarily agree with him

They agreed with enough of it tho. Republicans are good at that. Not every Trump voter thinks that his healthcare plan is any good. An awful lot don’t actually. But he gives them just enough of the queer bashing, segregationist, low tax, war posturing, librul tears drinking rush they crave, that they don’t care. I don’t believe for 1 sec that their disagreements with Yiannopolous or Coulter or anyone else are at all that extensive

people on the extreme left

Imma need a definition for this…

@WWTH
Agreed

@numerobis

Ah, the good ol’ days when Bush and Dick were unbelievably bad. Now they’d be a breath of fresh air!

Yeah, no. It’s not unbelievable how bad either administration has been, nor would a return to those fucks be “fresh air”. Quite believable and still nasty air. Something something privilege, yadda yadda tried to tell y’all

Dimmy
Dimmy
7 years ago

Right? It’s like, “would you prefer to be eaten by dry-rot zombies, or putrefying zombies”? UM NEITHER ONE THANKS BYE

Surplus to Requirements, Observer of the Vast Blight-Wing Enstupidation
Surplus to Requirements, Observer of the Vast Blight-Wing Enstupidation
7 years ago

@Axe:

@Nerd

people on the extreme left

Imma need a definition for this…

Complete abolition of private property?

Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
7 years ago

@Surplus

Complete abolition of private property?

Exactly some shit like that, yeah. Cos, like, Nerd coulda meant ‘people who’re extreme in their adherence to leftist ideologies’, as in your example. Or they coulda meant ‘extremists by some other measure who happen to be leftists’, by which I took the other measure to be propensity to violence. Could go either way, so I’m legit curious which. Or both maybe?

@Dimmy
‘It was so much better 10yrs ago’
‘For whom?’
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Surplus to Requirements, Observer of the Vast Blight-Wing Enstupidation
Surplus to Requirements, Observer of the Vast Blight-Wing Enstupidation
7 years ago

Here’s an article that completely ignores some odious sexism:

https://www.thestar.com/life/2016/09/13/if-you-leave-your-kids-alone-its-not-predatory-strangers-who-are-a-risk.html

First, though mention is made that respondents to their survey think it’s more bad for a female parent to be absent to take “me time” than for her to be absent for work, while for a male parent the numbers are equal, no follow-up is done on how this indicates a sexist standard that when a woman has children she is no longer allowed to have time for herself. (Also, perhaps, that a woman having an affair is worse than a man having an affair. And that’s also ignoring the heteronormative assumptions made.)

Then there’s the situation described at the end, in which a female lawyer is harassed and investigated for “child abuse” for a 3-minute absence from her children. It specifically mentions they subjected her to a psych exam. No mention is made of the likelihood that a man would not, at the very least, have been subjected to a psych exam. Because women’s behavior that men disapprove of must always be medicalized, it seems …

“The real stranger danger doesn’t come from would-be kidnappers.

It comes from people who think they’re doing good.”

Especially, it seems, from a subset who think that “doing good” includes specifically discouraging women from being anything other than traditional housewives.

But the article does not say anything really at all about the gendered double standards it uncovered.

Thoughts?

History Nerd
History Nerd
7 years ago

By “extreme left” I mean a spectrum including left-wing people with a propensity to violence, black bloc anarchists, communist organizations with active paramilitary wings, people who think urban guerrilla warfare is necessary for social progress, etc. That’s a tiny group of people compared to the rest of the left, and your views on tactics don’t have much to do with how far to the left your political views are. Assuming otherwise is basically Red Scare paranoia and McCarthyism.

BCR was a troll group pretty much. The whole “young conservatives” stuff is very heavily focused on radicalizing people involved in trolling or chan culture who already have some center-right views. Right libertarians and brocialists drift towards fascism once they become conscious that greater social equality means that they won’t enjoy the same privilege or have the same moral license to get away with certain behaviors (and it’s important to point out that they have that moral license benefiting them psychologically even if they’ve never engaged in the behaviors). It’s more about social privilege, less about whether some disadvantaged person might take your job.

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
7 years ago

They invited Milo to speak on campus because they felt he had a right to speak

He has a right to speak. He doesn’t have a right to a platform.

I’m more free speech absolutist on the general issue of campus speakers

No, you’re a platform absolutist. Except for the part where you’re not, because you obviously don’t work toward giving everyone and their Grandma Moses a platform. Only the already-famous get one.

History Nerd
History Nerd
7 years ago

Public universities are forced to be “platform absolutist” if they allow student groups to invite speakers for non-academic purposes.

Protesting the speakers and exposing them is great. I’ll shut up about disagreeing with more militant tactics because I agree that plays into right-wingers who twist and distort it. This blog is not really the place to debate about that sort of stuff anyway.

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
7 years ago

Public universities are forced to be “platform absolutist” if they allow student groups to invite speakers for non-academic purposes.

Maybe the university is, but I’m not forced to be anything. I can protest and try to get the talk canceled if I want. I’m not bound by the rules of the university.

Protesting the speakers and exposing them is great.

But trying to get them canceled is not great? Why are you not absolutist about my freedom of speech?

I’ll shut up about disagreeing with more militant tactics because I agree that plays into right-wingers who twist and distort it.

If right-wingers are going to twist and distort what I do, then it doesn’t matter what I do, does it now?

Imaginary Petal
Imaginary Petal
7 years ago

Computer problems here. I have a deadline coming up this week, and my laptop is fucking with me as usual.

Basically, my computer decided to randomly update Windows, which took about 8 hours, and now it won’t start up at all. I can get to the sign in-screen and put in my password, but from there nothing ever happens. The only way out is to shut down by holding down the power button, and then I have the same problem next time I turn it back on.

In conclusion, why are computers like this?