By David Futrelle
The stunted human beings known as Men Going Their Own Way love to imagine apocalyptic scenarios in which women are forced to beg them for help, offering sexual favors for cans of beans.
Now, with something truly apocalyptic barreling into Florida, they’re … well, doing the exact same thing, with Florida-based MGTOWs boasting of their preparedness and mocking all those allegedly hapless women they think will soon be beating a path to their home fortresses in search of food and shelter.
In a post on the MGTOW subreddit on Friday, one MGTOW Redditor seemed positively eager for Irma to do its thing to Orlando.
I would be surprised if even one “single woman riding the carousel” has approached him to ask for anything at all.
Naturally, cleats4u’s fellow MGTOW Redditors agreed that women are a bunch of helpless hypocrites who talk tough but then have the gall to … sometimes depend on other people.
I’m sure if an when these guys accidentally set fire to their homes with their balky generators they will steadfastly refuse the help of emergency services, because relying on others for help is for pussies.
This fellow, meanwhile, imagines a fun and kicky Mad Max scenario that for some reason involves a great deal of macaroni.
Another fellow fantasizes about trading sandwiches for sex:
I’m pretty sure most women would rather starve.
Which, apparently, is what most of those on the MGTOW subreddit would prefer for them as well.
And MGTOWs still try to convince people that their lady-hating cult is all about “self-improvement.” Nothing about these guys is new or improved.
I haven’t seen folks go this hard over boxed food since the great “Savory vs Sweet Grits” Twitter war of 2010. And 2011. And 2012. And 2-it comes up a lot.
Now, about wishing painful death on your neighbors because they won’t let you smang: The fuck? What kinda nuclear level dry-dick schaudenfreude is this? These forums are fucknugget flypaper. My very capable mom managed hurricane shelters as a volunteer for 20 years, including through Andrew. If we needed to fortify our home, our single female neighbors HELPED US and EACH OTHER, with or without men. My mom gave – GAVE – 24 bottle cases of spring water to her friends and neighbors. There was no repulsive quid pro quo. This was simple kindness, and decency. Because NEIGHBORS. Because COMPASSION.
Honestly, if I was out of supplies and my single option for aid was a smirking MGTOW, the only thing I’D be worried about would be the deafening sonic boom my vagina made as it slammed shut forever.
Wow, Pie, is that really the hill you want to die on?
Considering that the entire premise of MGTOW is based on unrealistic notions of AWALT, apocalyptic sexbot revenge fantasies, bad anatomy, and fake cringefic anecdotes featuring straw feminists, I think it’s fairly axiomatic that MGTOWs are, in fact, total fucking idiots, unmoored from reality, with zero clue about how the world works. I certainly wouldn’t look to them in a crisis.
Ironically, Pie criticized us for underestimating the enemy, yet that’s exactly what MGTOW are doing in this very post. For example, Dixie_Wehrwolf claims that “All the women are running around like it’s the end of the world.” No, dumbass. They’re gassing up the car and laying in supplies, just like you. If they’re “running around”, it’s because their supply list consists of a lot more than just macaroni and bug spray. They’re treating the approaching storm with proper caution and humility, not laughing about how awesome it’s gonna be sitting on a stockpile of pasta watching their neighbors drown.
That’s a perfect example of how unreliable they are as narrators. Man doing storm shopping = cool customer riding out the deluge in style. Woman doing storm shopping = panicky carousel rider who can’t function without electricity. Exact same behavior, but the motivations he ascribes to women are self-serving and way, way, off.
Does he think women are raccoons or something?
ETA: hi Pecunium! I remember you from way back when. Great to see you here again.
Pecunium! Wonderful to see you back!
I actually like raw macaroni as a snack – it’s nicely crunchy and very filling – but it wouldn’t be my first choice for a survival food.
All this hurricane preparedness talk makes me realize that my situation in Iqaluit is excellent. We only have ships sailing in from July to early October. So we are far more prepared for being cut off than most North Americans — it’s the state of things more often than not, and we have storage for months of fuel and dry goods.
If we get cut off for a full summer, we’re dead, though.
I’m confused: I thought cooking was supposed to be women’s work. Isn’t making sandwiches a highly gendered task in their world?
Yeah, Still Fiqah,
Hope you are ok. Hope all of the people anywhere that need to be ok are ok.
The people who I know, the people who I don’t know. The people who I don’t care about, the people who I do.
Best.
@Still Fiqah
Hope you and your mom stay safe
@Pecunium
Welcome back!
Welp, I don’t know about you all, but I’m just about ready to fuck a poor desperate incel, I mean migtoe, for grub.
…Oh wait, I’m in Canada, and I’m not starving. Irma has not reached here, not even as a sloppy rainstorm. Also, migtoes are kinda thin on the ground around here, as are incels. And I have no desire to fuck either one for anything, because if I have to board up my own windows, I damn well can. And if I can’t, I have family members who can help.
Never mind!
PS: Stay safe, all Florida folks here. Except the MRAs, migtoes and incels, who are cordially invited to go surfing in the storm surge.
“I want nothing to do with women, but I hope they flock to me.”
If I can’t have carbface in the apocalypse then why even have an apocalypse.
@IgnoreSandra
So just to check, PoM telling me to shut the fuck up is jus a-ok, but me using the work honey is absolutely unacceptable and I should, uh, STFU?
@Kupo
I made a general comment, to which PoM responded specifically, and directly to me. Hence my further replies have been to PoM. Did I miss any replies to me from David?
That’s pretty fucking presumptuous.
@Pie
You know damn well it’s not just about “using a word”. The implications of your specific strategy of belittling others go way beyond your choice of words. Especially in a feminist space like this, you should expect being called out for blatantly misogynist behavior.
Having said that, misogynist condescension isn’t the only form of condescension. This commentariat ought to keep that in mind at times.
Pie, I think you need to take a little nap and calm down. Come back when you feel better, okay cupcake?
@Imaginary Petal
Honey is non-gender-specfic, and in this context used as a condescending diminutive. I note also that PoM is not a gendered nym (maybe there’s a gendered avatar there, but I don’t see those). It seems that there’s some secret knowledge here about how they present, which makes what I said automatically, magically worse, and apparently also makes me a man.
Fuck that.
If you don’t want people to say mean words to you, don’t tell them to shut the fuck up.
… Is Pie Dixie_Wehrwolf? Because I’ve read through this thread a dozen times and can’t come up with any other reason as to why he’d inexplicably melt the fuck down over mac and cheese, what the fuck.
Even the alt right’s meltdown over the Declaration Of Independence made more sense than whatever the hell this is.
@Pie
“If you don’t want me to call you the N-word, then don’t be mean to me!”
I’ve emailed the Dark Lord, because this is fucking moronic.
OT: I had a dream that I met a MGTOW last night. He tried to beat my feminist views out of me, but he was so little and weak that all he managed to do was bite one of my knees and I was standing there feeling sorry for him thinking “I can’t hit him because I’ll kill him.”
Just thought I’d share that my subconscious clearly has a very low opinion of MGTOWs.
I don’t really want to get involved in the whole Mac n cheese thing, but I would just like to say that it’s not necessary to keep butter in the fridge and in fact I personally never do. Salted butter can last for weeks in a butter dish, even in a heatwave. Butter was invented as a way of preserving dairy before people had fridges.
Meanwhile, as someone who doesn’t even like macaroni and cheese I’m just staring at this absurdity.
@Imaginary Petal
So you are declaring honey to be a gendered insult now? Using it is equivalent to using a blatant racist slur? Okay. Does that extend to all other non-gender-specfic diminutives?
Let’s just end this mac n cheese argument that turned into whatever it’s turned into.
Actual mac n cheese recipes, still ok though.
And any other prepper advice. I’m not expecting any big hurricanes here in Chicago but I’ve started to realize I’m dangerously unprepared for any kind of other disaster.
So what’s some good foodstuff to stock up on (if you’re not planning on lugging it anywhere) that’ll keep and won’t require cooking? Canned stuff that’s not loaded with MSG?
I definitely don’t want to have to buy a Jim Bakker apocalypse bucket.
Other handy stuff to have around in case of some big disaster?
Def. going to get a cranked radio/flashlight/charger.
@Eli @Dalillama: Thank you both kindly, and I share your concern for folks dealing with Irma and Harvey and…every concurrent catastrophe.
@Imaginary Petal: I see your points in this exchange clearly, and I agree with you. I am going to advise you to please be cautious with any examples or parallels that aren’t quite the same and – most importantly – are things you haven’t necessarily been on the receiving side of. These things, like racecars, go from zero to clusterfuck in seconds. And, like with racecars, it’s important to stay in your lane.
There’s a charity in Wirksworth, Derbyshire, called Aquabox, that prepares special plastic crates loaded with survival stuff but crucially contains a really cool water filter that uses no chemicals but can make any water clean.
Check it out at http://www.aquabox.org
This is what I would want in event of Irma-style emergency, or civil collapse. Endless clean water and plenty of matches.
@Still Fiqah
Point taken.
@Nothing is Permanent But Woe
Be careful with these. The aquabox filters are fine enough to strain out viruses (not all off-the-shelf water filters do this, and its a feature you’ll want if you’re trying to drink water that may have been contaminated by human waste) but what they won’t do is remove chemical contaminants. To quote their own site,
This is probably fine for river water, but floodwater may well be full of all sorts of unpleasant chemical runoff from industrial or agricultural sources or even just roads. It also won’t help if the floodwater is brackish (eg. in the aftermath of a tsunami or storm surge).
I think you can use reverse osmosis filters to fix that, but they’re big and pretty expensive and slow if you don’t have a power source.
There are no easy solutions for this sort of disaster. Filling up your bathtub before everything goes south is probably the simplest and most effective thing.