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Labor Day Tribute to the Grotesque Old Party

Donald Trump: U mad, bro?

By David Futrelle

Happy Labor Day, insofar as this can be a happy day considering all the horrendous things going on in the world at the moment. I’m foregoing a regular post today to put up this visual tribute to the Party of Trump. Consider this an open thread to discuss what shits these people are.

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Nothing is Permanent But Woe
Nothing is Permanent But Woe
7 years ago

Regarding Piers Morgan, I did occasionally read the Mirror under his editorship when it was the only tabloid to oppose the war on Iraq. That said, I also have a broken watch that’s right twice a day, so…

I’m not DanHolme anymore; I re-read ‘Fungus the Bogeyman’ for the first time in 30 years last week and was reminded that my spiritual home is a terraced street in a cold, quiet, dark, rainy northern town miles below the feet of humankind. Or Buxton, as some people call it.

Hi everyone.

Zephkiel
Zephkiel
7 years ago

To be fair, Morgan does have a long and undistinguished history of being a tool with broken ribs.

https://youtu.be/RCgAqNSAD1U

Ohlmann
Ohlmann
7 years ago

Same as Pie about that whole Diana conspiration theory. I think there is no rational reason to believe it was anything but an accident. Especially since she did not have any link with the Crown anymore.

Pie
Pie
7 years ago

@Nothing is Permanent But Woe

Regarding Piers Morgan, I did occasionally read the Mirror under his editorship when it was the only tabloid to oppose the war on Iraq. That said, I also have a broken watch that’s right twice a day, so…

He’s had a few sensible moments. He is pro-gun-control, for example. Its almost all buried under a landslide of awfulness though.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
7 years ago

The Diana thing was very comprehensively investigated at the inquest.

I can see why people were suspicious, but perhaps it should be noted that Al Fayed’s own barrister abandoned the claims of conspiracy and accepted they were completely without foundation once the evidence was heard. And that was well known radical Mike Mansfield, hardly a pillar of the establishment.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
7 years ago

@ pie

He is pro-gun-control, for example

That’s hardly a radical position for a Brit though; you might as well say “He quite likes tea.” 🙂

occasional reader
occasional reader
7 years ago

Hello.

Off topic, sorry.
This time, it is not against women in video games, but it seems that gamegaters are still hating people.
The article is about the backlash a journalist, Dean Takahashi (of VentureBeat), get for having posted a video of him failing while playing a video game. Your dear Gamergate friend Ian Miles Cheong was notably one of the first to criticize, saying that being bad at one video game disqualify the person to be a video game journalist.
Yeah. I mean, i am pretty sure every war reporter can beat with a single hand any commando trooper, because if the reporter can not, that disqualifies the reporter to be a war journalist. And with the same logical fallacy, if a journalist can not draw, paint, take artistic photoshoot, write poems and novels, shoot movies and so on, the person can not be an art journalist.
There are journalism schools, but it is probably to make journalism journalists and certainly not any other topic journalists.
Of course, many “gamers” and, sadly, some other videogames journalists, jump in the bandwagon of acid critics.
Let us remember that they have also welcomed Yannopoulos as a techno journalist.
Alas, like the nazis, the Gamegate beast is not dead yet…

Out of topic 2
Does someone know a good free software to write music sheets ?

Have a nice day.

SomeGuyInAWaistcoat
SomeGuyInAWaistcoat
7 years ago

@occasional reader
I hear good things about MuseScore from a couple of friends. Open source, available in Mac, Windows, and Linux flavours, and I think there’s an ARM version as well.

(After so long lurking, you’d think my first post around these parts would actually be on topic…)

Moggie
Moggie
7 years ago

occasional reader:

Your dear Gamergate friend Ian Miles Cheong was notably one of the first to criticize, saying that being bad at one video game disqualify the person to be a video game journalist.

Good grief. Penny Arcade has been commenting on gaming for nearly twenty years, blossoming into much more than a webcomic, and yet Jerry Holkins (Tycho) readily admits to sucking at many games. Does that make him a fake gamer?

Dalillama: Irate Social Engineer

@occasional reader

Lilypond shpuld work

Buttercup Q. Skullpants

I broke two ribs at a company picnic a few years ago. It was uncomfortable, and I had to be careful how I moved for a couple of weeks, but it didn’t prevent me from working or going about my daily activities. There’s nothing “manly” or otherwise about getting on with things when you’re not in 100% physical shape. It’s just what life is. That being said, it’s dangerous and irresponsible to shame people into ignoring pain and pushing themselves. That’s what leads to boys playing football with concussions, and men not seeking help when they’re depressed.

As for the GOP, they’re within reach of their decades-long endgame to consolidate power and create a permanent Republican majority. They control the presidency, the Supreme Court, Congress, almost 3/4 of state legislatures and governorships, and a sizeable chunk of the military and police. The US electorate is starting to wake up to that and resist, but it may be too late. A lot of outside factors like climate change, peak oil, and NK becoming a full-blown nuclear power are now converging that threaten to create chaos, uncertainty, and social unrest within the next couple of decades – and that’s exactly what authoritarianism needs to thrive.

On the other hand, there are more of us than there are of them, and what we’re fighting against is actually real. The alt-right is fighting against bogeymen, fueled by fake news and manufactured outrage. I don’t for a minute doubt the power of the Big Lie to persuade ordinary people to commit violence, but by and large the alt-right is made up of selfish, venal cowards in khakis who prance around in their fantasies, but snivel on camera the moment they have to pay any real-world consequences for their horrendous beliefs. Push back, and they wilt. Whether any of them would put their own lives on the line for their infantile orange god-emperor remains to be seen.

occasional reader
occasional reader
7 years ago

> Dalillama
Thank you ! It was in the first page of results, but many have good comments, so i was hesitating. I am going to give it a try this week-end.

bluecat
bluecat
7 years ago

The one of Trump backed by the Trumpkins is straight out of George Grosz.

Paul Ryan seems to be decaying along with the corpses of butchered horses, yet still look smug.

May the work of these images be done swiftly.

And to all of you, if you have a Labor day, have a happy one.

Pie
Pie
7 years ago

@Alan Robertshaw

He is pro-gun-control, for example

That’s hardly a radical position for a Brit though; you might as well say “He quite likes tea.” ?

Not a radical position for a brit, perhaps, but somewhat more unusual for someone who seems keen to ingratiate themselves with the (US) republican establishment. I guess that means it is possible to say something nice about him: he’s not a totally unprincipled mercenary shit.

Virgin Mary
Virgin Mary
7 years ago

@pie

On the gun control thing, I was quite happy too see Piers take Alex Jones to bits.

As far as conspiracy theories go, I do not believe fluoride in the water is there to pacify us. I live in an area with no fluoride, and I’m glad about that because it makes water taste funny. I do not really want to drink fluoride, but I don’t believe some neo nazi’s conspiracy.
The death of Diana was different. There are a lot of things which do not add up. She was popular and that made her powerful, even after she lost her HRH title she was still more popular than Charles, and certainly more popular than Millie, because no one wants her as queen. The royal establishment are misogynists, and only view their women as breeding stock, seeing their prize heifer with a coloured man made them very angry indeed. I think it was terrible that they removed her protection and let her be brutally harassed by the press, but I don’t think the paparazzi caused the accident. The car she was travelling in could easy outrun a few scooters. There was something else going on there, maybe one day it will all come out.

Gussie Jives
Gussie Jives
7 years ago

I think it was Alan Rickman who upon being asked how he can portray such compelling villains, replied “Villains don’t wake up in the morning and say ‘Gee, what kind of evil can I do this morning?'” As despicably evil as Republicans are, they aren’t Snidely Whiplash; clearly they need the esteem of friends and family in order to go to sleep at night and look themselves in the mirror without walking in front of a bus. So I’m wondering what it takes to actually shake these guys out of the self-reinforcing Ayn Rand Chicago School Reaganomics bubble they’ve retreated to.

I mean, which of Paul Ryan’s kids needs to come home and ask him why one of her friends is losing health insurance or is scared about ICE agents busting down the door in the middle of the night? I realize I’m fantasizing insofar as the children of a wealthy Republican being in a public school and interacting with poor people, but certainly somebody these people interact with and care about the opinion of must have a conscience. Whoever that person is… they’ve gotta step up, because whatever “good” these monsters think they’re doing is hurting a lot of vulnerable people and there’s already been too much death and suffering one can place squarely at the feet of GOP greed and incompetence.

The whole party needs to be burnt to the ground and the earth salted.

Fishy Goat
Fishy Goat
7 years ago

@occasional reader I use Musescore . 🙂 I might have to try out the other recommend, though. I hadn’t heard of it….

Fishy Goat
Fishy Goat
7 years ago

@Zephkiel re: Piers: If even Jeremy Clarkson wants to punch him in the face…. 😉

pk1154
pk1154
7 years ago

@occasional reader

Interesting link.

WTF, gamergaters?

That reviewer demonstrates exactly the sort of information I want from a game review. I love playing video games, but my 63-year old hands are not up to lots of finely-timed button pushing combinations. (I want to throw in a rant about “magic spot-ism” but…no.)

I did find this bit of news interesting: Arnold Schwarzenegger wants to terminate gerrymandering.

http://www.sfchronicle.com/politics/article/Schwarzenegger-s-bipartisan-next-political-act-12170898.php

Pie
Pie
7 years ago

@Virgin Mary

The death of Diana was different.

No.

There are a lot of things which do not add up.

No.

The royal establishment are misogynists, and only view their women as breeding stock, seeing their prize heifer with a coloured man made them very angry indeed.

This is exactly why queen liz stepped down and handed over the reins of, uh, her reign, to a man, her son. Because the misogynist establishment wouldn’t want her at the top, right?

And seriously, “prize heifer”? Dude.

Virgin Mary
Virgin Mary
7 years ago

@pie

There are other reasons why Liz hasn’t handed over the reigns to her son, firstly that a reigning monarch is not supposed to dally with political lobby groups. He has been doing this for years, and it could disqualify his from ever taking the crown. Prince Phillip could not be king as he is not British.

Ohlmann
Ohlmann
7 years ago

I concur: everything actually add up for the official, and true, version.

Pie
Pie
7 years ago

@Virgin Mary

Ahh, so its a misogynistic establishment in the same way that the US is misandric and run by women and homosexuals, eg. not at all, except in conspiracy theories?

Moggie
Moggie
7 years ago

It’d be nice if we could leave the weird conspiracist thinking to the right wing. Living in reality rather than fantasy will help us defeat the right.