By David Futrelle
In the Men Going Their Own Way subreddit, a wise elder who calls himself lonewolf-chicago warns his younger colleagues to watch out for the insidious danger of … women who dye their hair. You may think these women look hot, he tells the assembled MGTOWs, but they don’t look hot, because their hair is a LIE! Also, he notes, his ex-wife has a fat butt.
Let’s hear him out:
I’m an older guy. I’m 45 and there are no women anywhere close to my age that doesn’t dye their hair. Some have pretty faces a few are even fit but they all died their hair.
If they did not dye their hair all of them would look like old ladies. All of them. So just this one act of dying their hair conceals at least 10 years of age.
Damn these women for trying to look their best!
So if a woman is 35 or 40 and she dyes her hair you have to imagine what she looks like without her hair dyed.
Er, why exactly do you have to do this?
I am 45 I have very little gray hair I do not wear makeup… obviously, but women my age smile and become coy when they get carded at a restaurant or at a bar even though it’s only because the Law States the bouncers must card everyone who walks in the place.
Their narcissism makes them believe that it’s because they still look young. But it’s only because they dye their hair.
Wait, I thought it was because the bouncers have to card everyone. Keep it together, man, you’re losing it!
One of my Ex-Wives friend has been almost totally gray since she was 30 years old she’s 44 years old now she is a hairdresser. She is attractive but she dyes her hair which means she’s not attractive … she hit the wall at 30.
It’s like a MGTOW Koan: What is the sound of one women who is attractive but also not attractive?
If you didn’t look at my ex-wife’s ass and the horrible fat lard cottage cheese on the back of her legs you would say that she’s attractive. She has humongous tits but her nipples never come out… so they are basically a big slab of fat. She dyes her hair. She would not look pretty if she did not dye her hair she would look like an old lady.
Somehow I don’t think this woman really regrets kicking this guy to the curb.
Women are narcissists and they live in a fantasy world. They think what they look like with colored hair and makeup and those undergarments that suck in all the fat is how they actually look. They live in a fantasy land.
Have you guys gotten the picture yet? Do you get it? Women over 40 for sure do not look like they actually look. It’s fucking makeup. It’s fake.
WOMEN OVER 40 DO NOT LOOK LIKE THEY ACTUALLY LOOK.
You heard it here first.
I dye my hair. I’ve been playing with different colors for years. It’s fun.
I’m not interested in dating, marrying or having any more children. No, sad little Melvin, you do not know my motivation. I look the way I enjoy looking.
Mens opinions of my appearance do not matter.
Women aren’t thinking of you when they make choices just because you are obsessed with us. Don’t project your creepy issues into us. It’s creepy and pathetic.
@Sheila
Mine’s currently the colours of a tropical sunset, it took my husband about 20 minutes to put in, probably an hour all told counting time to set the colour and rinse put the dye. Like Nicolaluna, I usually renew it every couple months.
@Based Melvin Udall
The red pill is estrogen
Not sure if anyone has mentioned this one yet, but I dye my hair for financial reasons. It’s naturally dark brown, but I dye it black because I play a lot of witches (sometimes even sexy witches even though I’m over 30) and monsters. Despite deliberately cultivating an “I’ll suck out your soul” look, I still got assaulted on the subway a few months ago.
I’m continually astonished by these men who apparently can’t tell when a woman is wearing makeup, or when someone they’re in a long-term relationship with is dying their hair.
Just because you are too oblivious to notice doesn’t mean the other person is being sneaky. It means you need to pay more attention.
My coworker recently found out her husband had no idea she’s been dying her hair for the past 10 years or so. They’re both in their 60s. She has an appointment every other week and she doesn’t keep it a secret. She says she was half-grey when she started dying it so what exactly did he think happened?
Most women I know who dye their hair do not make a secret of it, they’re not embarrassed or ashamed. They do it for the same reasons they might choose to wear makeup or nice clothing; and there’s a wide range of reasons, most of which have nothing to with attracting men. But I’m not sure I understand why it’s a problem if they are doing it to attract men, either. Surely you only care how ‘fertile’ a woman is if you intend to have children with her, and if you’re at that point then I would hope you know her age!
@Nicola, 2 hours every 2 months sounds doable. Hmmm.
I wonder how long it would take my husband to notice?
Nthing everyone else. This is rapey as hell.
Also, why is the SMV of only red pill dudes determined by what you can get? Isn’t the SMV of women or non-RP men the same? Isn’t that what the whole silly concept of sexual marketplace is?
I do find your claims to be free pretty silly though. You red pillers and/or MGTOW are always claiming that. Yet you spend all your time on the internet obsessing over what women do with our hair, how we age, what we weigh, who we date or don’t date, who we fuck or don’t fuck, what marriage and divorce rates are, what pets we have, how zombifying our vagina goo is, etc. No one is more obsessed with us than you are. It’s kind of sad.
You are totally projecting. Most of us don’t spend this kind of time tailoring our lives to other people’s perception of us. Try as you might to tell us and yourself that everything women do is centered around your boner, it isn’t. The sad (for you) fact is, nobody cares about your boner. The teenage girl in the trendy clothes doesn’t care about your boner. The teenage girl in full goth regalia doesn’t care about your boner. The blue haired SJW doesn’t care about your boner. The middle aged woman who dyes her greys doesn’t care about your boner. The church lady doesn’t care about your boner. The ageing hippie woman with the long wavy grey hair doesn’t about your boner. I don’t care about your boner. Nobody else here cares about your boner. The only one who cares about your boner is you.
@Based Melvin maybe you can explain to me. What’s the big deal about sleeping with or dating someone who has more grey hair than you assumed? One of my partners has some grey hair. Should I be concerned? Or is it different because we are both men?
Baed Melvin, with his cute little rainbow Trojan Condom helmet, cracks me up.
He’s just trying so hard, y’all.
@Debased
Your personality is bad, and you should feel bad!
I do wanna point this out tho
Gross to anyone else? Just me?
I actually dyed my hair blue because bright cheerful colors make me smile. Same reason I wear bright cheerful underwear (which no one but me ever sees as I am not sexually active).
Nothing to do with anyone but me. Sorry to shatter your worldview.
It is funny. There’s a small subset of men who obsess over every little thing we do with our appearance but most men don’t seem to care that much about our hair or clothes.
I don’t know if it’s like this for other women, but I find that there’s no correlation between how I look on any given day and whether or not I get hit on. It’s been this way my whole life. I actually looked kind of hideous when I lost my virginity because it was after a 1980’s costume party. Other than Melvin and his “freed” friends, most men just aren’t caring that much about our fashion choices.
In my experience, when women do dress for other people (and not all of us do that) it’s to impress, intimidate or placate other women.
Red pillers know this all as well we do. That’s why they’re always whining about how women who aren’t even 8/10 or higher on the SMV scale can get laid. That’s why the whine in the OP isn’t about how middle aged women can’t attract men. It’s about how they do attract men and they’re outraged by this fact. These guys only tell us we need to obsess about our appearance for their benefit because they want to make us feel bad about ourselves. They want us to feel bad about ourselves because they want to control us and they know if we’re confident and happy that they can’t.
LOL!
I’ve heard a lot of these dorks yammering on how they prefer adolescent girls and that a woman hits “The Wall” (‘Hey! You! Leave them women alone!….) at the young age of 25.
Since a human being has been determined by medical science to reach full biological adulthood by 18-20 (though the brain a tad slower and even slower for males), it seems really weird that (using the fruit metaphor) these clown prefer colorless, sour, under-ripened fruit.
Ripe and slightly over-ripe fruit tend to be the sweetest and juiciest!
Hey misogynospherians! Adult women are like fully-sweet and ripened fruit and at peak fertility! Why do you want some unripe KID?
Now I have to take a shower for all this sordid “Human Females Are Fruit” jazz.
@Male-Biased Wedgie Udon-Noodle
You know your goofy “Red Pill/Blue Pill” jazz was from a movie series written by two transwomen where it was presented to Keanu Reeves by a strong black guy and a hot butt-kickin’ woman, right?….
….The RED PILL is FEMINISM & PROGRESSIVISM, baby! Progressivism philosophy is, simply….as a younger Keanu said….
….“BE EXCELLENT TO EACH OTHER! *Air Guitar*
….Which is what Progressive Politics is all about! Everyone gets a chance and white hetero males can be just as welcome as anything! There’s nothing to fear! Look at Progressive countries then look at Far-Right Theocracies! NO CONTEST! The former tend to be nicer, safer, more prosperous and peaceful and have a higher standard of living.
When there is equality….A NATION THRIVES!
So shed that silly “Toxic Masculinity/Dominance” stuff and learn to be kind, giving and loving. Change the man in the mirror and see women as human beings and equals and I GUARANTEE you will find romance and sex! Also; You can still be platonic friends with women. It’s not weird!
You want to live up to some dopey, antiquated ideal created by guys like you long ago and feel angry that you can’t live up to it. We Feminists have been working hard to break down those barriers so you don’t have to find your worth as a man in outmoded macho standards….yet you assume that Feminism = Valerie Solanis.
NO! Valerie Solanis was a horrible waste of skin who committed attempted murder! She’s the female version of YOU GUYS!
WE HAVE TAKEN THE TRUE RED PILL OF PROGRESSIVISM!
MISOGYNY & AUTHORITARIANISM IS SO OLD FASHIONED AND OUTMODED AND BLUE-PILL. PROGRESSIVISM IS FRESH, NEW AND MODERN….VERY RED PILL!
You may have stolen a gentle, peace-loving, laid-back, joint-puffing stoner froggie drawn by a Lefty underground comic-book artist….
Pictured: The REAL Pepe
….but YOU WILL NOT STEAL OUR RED PILL!
I think we still need to save Pepe, too! He’d be a great Hippie-stoner Lefty mascot! His theme song could be Cheech & Chong music.
My mom was fully grey at 30 and has chosen to dye it since. It amuses me to think that she was a good wife “putting in the effort” with my dad until their separation, at which point she became a lying cougar, right up until her second wedding day when she became a good wife again.
Oh, I see. You’re OK with married women dying their hair because they are doing it to look good for their husbands, but unmarried women are doing it for themselves and that makes it bad.
So, in your eyes, married women are allowed to put effort into their appearance, thus earning them more respect. Unmarried women, on the other hand, shouldn’t put effort into their appearance and therefore deserve less respect. Why are you so threatened by unmarried women? Why does it bother you so much that women make their own decisions about their own bodies?
Maybe that’s because you’re thinking of women as a monolithic group instead of as individuals with their own feelings and motivations. This thread is full of women giving their reasons for dying their hair. You chose to ignore that and substitute your own bullshit reasons because you fail to see women as people (as evidenced by your use of the word “females” instead of “women”).
Anyone else click on his name and get a review for his little sex doll companion?
He’s got the perfect woman. Why is he here botheing us with things that are none of his business?
Go fling your shit elsewhere.
I had red hair as a baby. When I was one it all fell out and grew back brown although the sun does give me red gold streaks. I’ve always felt like a redhead. It’s just who I am. I don’t know why I feel this way, but I do. I’ve experimented with lots of different colors, but I always go back to red because that is what feels right.
Red hair is polarizing. Some men love it. Some hate it. That’s their own business. I’m going to continue dying it red either way.
If I was going to dye my hair to attract men, I would go blonde. I have a similar skin tone to my fair skinned naturally blonde until the greys came mother. So blonde looks all right on me. Blonde seems to be the most popular with men, just generally. So why don’t I go blonde? Because it’s just not me. I wonder how our sad bonered friend would explain that.
Biased Mervin: women – sorry, feeeeeemales – dye their hair because “they try to make themselves appear more youthful, healthy, and fertile than they are. Denying this is silly.”
Mammotheers: How do you explain young women dying their hair white? (or blue, or green, or any other colour which does not denote youth and healthiness except for meadows and jellyfish).
Merv: Feeeeemales are WIERD and YUCKY and I can’t explain their motivations because who can?
Oh honey, much logical.
@ PeeVee
An artificial peach?
MRAs do love starting to “logic” with contradictions that are obvious to the outside observer, don’t they.
And yes, I’m getting tired of twitter idiots telling people the KKK was started by Democrats.
Oh, looks like I missed out on more troll “wisdom”, OH NO OH SIGH.
I shall now peruse the thorough drubbing I’m sure he received.
Moar henna! Need moar henna because the MRAs do not like dyed hair and I wish to keep them at bay.
PS I am post-menopausal. I am not trying to attract anyone, particularly not MRAs, in order to make babies.
Whenever I see a MGTOW bragging that he is now free, FREE, do you hear him? FREEEEEEEEE! I have a flashback to the Puma Man movie: “Each man is a god. Each man is free.”
As a kid watching the movie late at night, I rolled my eyes at that line. As a grown woman watching Puma Man getting the MST3K treatment, I cackled.
@ vicky p
Well, if anyone should fancy cougar women…
bluecat,
Lol, no. But he named himself “Based Melvin Udall” and the name of the little sexdoll review is called MGTOW: As Good As It Gets, so our latest thinks he’s being oh, so clever.
@ Alan
*snicker*
Since it was a cheesy 1970s cheese fest, does it surprise you to learn that there is indeed a scene at the end of the movie about the sexual habits of the Puma Man?
Poor Donald Pleasence, having to be in such a movie. Though he got to chew the scenery rather a lot, as the villain.