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Wicked huge anti-fascist march in Boston: Today in tweets

How you can tell this anti-fascist march is in Boston (Modified pic from @JackSmithIV)

By David Futrelle

So the Nazis and their pals had a “free speech” rally in Boston Common that drew … several dozen people. They were met by TWENTY THOUSAND antifascist counterprotesters. You go, Boston!

Also, Steve Bannon got canned at the White House and has returned to Breitbart to launch a “war” against the White House, but that was yesterday and you already know that. But hey, it’s still fun to joke about.

Let’s check the tweets, as Craig Ferguson used to say.

Police estimate is 15,000; MSNBC says 20,000. Either way, that’s A WHOLE HELL OF A LOT.

If these are “dueling rallies” it’s pretty clear who won the duel, by many orders of magnitude.

Also, we’ve got witches.

https://twitter.com/feministabulous/status/898958875390554114

https://twitter.com/feministabulous/status/898957264542892032

https://twitter.com/feministabulous/status/898957059839983617

https://twitter.com/dansolomon/status/898964001895350273

The Nazis and their fellow travelers are really having to stretch to smear the counterprotesters:

https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/898957347631923200

Dude, it’s just a list of those canned from the White House so far. None of the crossed-out people have been “violently assassinated” or even non-violently assassinated.

In other news:

Oh, ok. The real picture is also pretty hilariously terrible, unless you’re a white male supremacist.

Looks like Alex Jones paid a dude to throw cold coffee on him? (I mean, come on, that’s the fakest fake confontation I’ve ever seen.)

https://twitter.com/cafedotcom/status/898665835908055040

https://twitter.com/2Ferdi7/status/432472189053702144

Kessler said his Twitter was hacked, then said he might have posted it when he was high on booze and prescription drugs.

https://twitter.com/pattymo/status/898593499821375488

https://twitter.com/nickbilton/status/898590515129499648

https://twitter.com/landpsychology/status/898599735484968961

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David
3 years ago

Today’s a nice day to be in Boston, even though I haven’t liked living in America for… well, the last eleven years since I arrived, really.

It can’t even be called just a counterprotest any more. It’s a massive, encouraging gathering of people standing up to hatred, and some knobheads on a bandstand somewhere in the distance.

dreemr
dreemr
3 years ago

I love those anti-racist witches!

This gives me hope. Well done, Boston!

IgnoreSandra
3 years ago

Hell yeah, Boston.

If only all confrontations with Nazis involved them being outnumbered 200 to 1.

D
D
3 years ago

This is how these protests should be handled. Keep the white supremacists and the counter-protesters apart from each other, let them compete with numbers, and see the white supremacists get trounced. There were a few scuffles with police, apparently, but nothing serious.

The Monstrosity, of course, seizes on the scuffles. “Looks like many anti-police agitators in Boston.” Slime.

Also: I wondered why Alex Jones would ever go to downtown Seattle. It’s like the Mouth of Sauron walking into Minas Tirith. If he went there just to have a fake fight, that would explain it.

Dormousing_it
Dormousing_it
3 years ago

Damn, this makes me miss living in New England, flaws and all.

Ooglyboggles
Ooglyboggles
3 years ago

Good on you Boston! Stuff like this shows the Nazis in no uncertain terms that the majority are not on their side.

dr. ej
dr. ej
3 years ago

Yay Boston!

Also, for any crafty Mammotheers, I just discovered the Welcome Blanket Project. They are collecting blankets for immigrants who have recently arrived in the US. The blankets will all be on display in Chicago for a short time before the are sent to the recipients. I only found out today because they have extended the submission deadline. I’ve started planning a quilt to submit.

Buttercup Q. Skullpants
Buttercup Q. Skullpants
3 years ago

Wicked huge

Or “wicked lodge”, as we New Englanders say.

So glad to see the huge turnout, driving away the darkness. This is what our nation, and the world, should be.

Moggie
Moggie
3 years ago

Ooglyboggles:

Good on you Boston! Stuff like this shows the Nazis in no uncertain terms that the majority are not on their side.

Something something metropolitan elite, something something Soros.

Ooglyboggles
Ooglyboggles
3 years ago

@Moggie
Speaking of whom, Soros I’m still waiting for college money, you know for the thing I did with them and those doing this and that?

Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
3 years ago

*puts on Yankees cap*
Fuck you, Boston

And, yeah, thank you, Boston 🙂

PeeVee the (Perpetually Ignored, Invisible but Noice) Sarcastic
PeeVee the (Perpetually Ignored, Invisible but Noice) Sarcastic
3 years ago

#BostonProud.

Beautiful.

Gijoel
Gijoel
3 years ago

This image is also quite relevant

SpukiKitty
SpukiKitty
3 years ago

I am proud to be an American!

Buttercup Q. Skullpants
Buttercup Q. Skullpants
3 years ago

@Axe – (squinting) There seems to be some sort of unnatural abomination attached to your head. You should probably get it looked at.

(but, thank you for the appreciation 😀 )

Saint
Saint
3 years ago

I wish there was more I could do to help with these protests besides looking at articles and sharing them, but I’m a mentally ill queer person with a job, a college career, and a not-as-radical family. I’m considering setting aside some money for some Muslim friends of mine in case something bad happens, but I only earn $8.66/hr for 4-8 hours a week. I wish I knew what I could do.

Tessa
Tessa
3 years ago

That is some next level reaching to suggest the list of fired Trump staff is an assassination list. I mean, he had to realize how stupid he was being by posting that, right??

ModMyst
3 years ago

Hurray, Boston– you do it right! Nothing but Mensch as far as the eye can see, I applaud you all 😀

JS
JS
3 years ago

More obvious version of that Trump “staff pic”…
http://i.imgur.com/BDVYn51.jpg By twitter’s own photoshopper @darth, of course.

Also, the original is guaranteed to be inaccurate within the next month.

tim gueguen
3 years ago

Meanwhile people in Vancouver protested a gathering by Canadian hard righters that included members of the group Worldwide Coalition Against Islam and the Cultural Action Party of Canada. The anti-racist protesters easily outnumbered the far right bunch.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/anti-racism-rally-vancouver-city-hall-1.4253117

BS and his four, fluffy kitties
BS and his four, fluffy kitties
3 years ago

As much as I normally hate Boston (sports jealousy reasons only), I love it today.

How do you like them apples, Nazis!

Jojo Mojo
Jojo Mojo
3 years ago

@Tessa

IIRC, Posobeic was one of the guy that started the “hillary killed Seth Rich as revenge for WikiLeaks”. He’s probably trying to get a new break to not become just a one hit wonder hack like that James O’Keefe kid became.

@JS

That’s the worst Photoshop I’ve ever seen. Nothing had been changed at all!

Redsilkphoenix: Jetpack Vixen, Agent of the FemiNest Collective; Keeper of a Hell Toupee, and all-around Intergalactic Meanie
Redsilkphoenix: Jetpack Vixen, Agent of the FemiNest Collective; Keeper of a Hell Toupee, and all-around Intergalactic Meanie
3 years ago

Does anyone have that Resistibot text thing handy? I’d like to do more with the resisting stuff, but I have almost literally no money to spare for donations, I’m fairly busy with doing all this stuff the unemployment office wants me to do to keep getting money from them (plus job search in general), and while I’m fairly good as a photojournalist, no-one resistance-wise in my area has call for such skills. (That I know of, anyway.)

Setting up my phone for a text barrage, that I can do, I think.

My thanks in advance for any help.

GrumpyOld SocialJusticeMangina
GrumpyOld SocialJusticeMangina
3 years ago

Posobiec also started the pizzagate myth,.

Ledasmom
Ledasmom
3 years ago

I’m pretty sure that sign with crossed-off Trump staff is a takeoff on lists one sees in sports-oriented Massachusetts establishments, with crossed-off names of Red Sox personnel who have moved to other teams. Unless Nomar Garciaparra has been assassinated, I really don’t think it’s a threat.

Moggie
Moggie
3 years ago
TheKND
TheKND
3 years ago

So, how long until the anti-racist protests are being accused of vandalism, cultural marxism and eating babies by “classical liberals”? Because we all know that Antifa is the new fascism.

Shadow
Shadow
3 years ago

So did Breitbart declare war on the WH or not? Cos the article I read on Bannon’s exit/bumrush suggested that he’s just rejoining the Nazi war.

I really, really wanna see Trump vs Breitbart. Pretty please. I been good… ish this year.

SpukiKitty
SpukiKitty
3 years ago

Moggie
August 20, 2017 at 3:49 am

OMG, the Ken Burns treatment:

https://twitter.com/Reetae27/status/899018562647375872

DUDE! THAT IS HILARIOUS!

Also the photo: A counter-protester flips a double-bird to a young Confederate-Soldier cosplayer who resembles a giant 6-foot teen-baby. Said boy looks away with a rather nervous expression.

BritterSweet
3 years ago

I guess I fell for that fake Alex Jones encounter because I thought why would he WANT to look like a coward? But then again, he probably doesn’t think of it like that. He thinks swearing and running up to random people makes him look tough somehow, and the coffee thing makes a martyr out of him.

SpukiKitty
SpukiKitty
3 years ago

S
August 19, 2017 at 9:47 pm

More obvious version of that Trump “staff pic”…
[Pic of Trump with Pence clones and one token lady]
By twitter’s own photoshopper @darth, of course.

Also, the original is guaranteed to be inaccurate within the next month.

No doubt.

Concerning Pence. I think we need to pressure to not only to impeach Trump, but everyone else, especially Pence.

I think Pence was in on the Russia thing too, we need to keep that in mind and bring it up.

kupo
kupo
3 years ago

@BritterSweet
The whole thing looked staged to me. The other guy was way too much in Jones’ face for it to be a random stranger confrontation. Besides, we Seattlites don’t waste coffee like that. 😉

Anne
Anne
3 years ago

Boston rocks! So does vancouver 😀 How can a non-american support?

Redsilkphoenix: Jetpack Vixen, Agent of the FemiNest Collective; Keeper of a Hell Toupee, and all-around Intergalactic Meanie
Redsilkphoenix: Jetpack Vixen, Agent of the FemiNest Collective; Keeper of a Hell Toupee, and all-around Intergalactic Meanie
3 years ago

The Confederate cosplay comment got me wondering. Civil War reenactments and reenactors are a decently big business in the US. Enough people do those that a movie company wanting to shoot a Civil War epic could just call up these guys if they want a ton of authenticly dressed extras.

Should the reenactors be discouraged from doing them anymore, or at least for the time being? Based on the few I’ve met (Northern reenactors, anyway), they seem to be there to celebrate history, not make a comment on the current political scene. These are guys who go to great lengths to figure out things like what and how the original soldiers ate, then recreate it while ‘in costume’.

Which doesn’t mean some of the Nazis haven’t joined some of the reenactment clubs, of course. Just that those groups were supposed to be historical in nature, not political.

Any thoughts?

dlouwe
dlouwe
3 years ago

I was at the counter protest in Vancouver! Only had 4-5 thousand show up, but with only 5 days of planning i think that isn’t too shabby! It made me really proud of my city.

IgnoreSandra
3 years ago

RE: Civil war reenactment

I think that the Confederate side of history isn’t a thing to be celebrated at all. Someone has to play the Confederates if we’re re-enacting the civil war, but that shouldn’t be a thing people choose.

However…I’ve never heard of a WWII re-enactment that involves folks playing nazis. Even modern video games don’t assign players as “nazis” or has authentic insignia on assets normally used by the Nazis. Empire Earth steps around the issue entirely by not addressing the Nazi party at all during its modern Germany campaign and instead framing the second world war in terms of a response to the first.

I’m not saying that gaming has addressed the Nazis or the 2nd World War appropriately at all, because it hasn’t – anything less than “The Nazis were horrible inhuman monsters and no one ever had any excuse for supporting them” is a failure of a game that involves WWII.

Honestly, passion for history or not, the Confederacy should have the same cultural and legal prohibitions from showing its ideals and insignias as Nazis do. Because fundamentally speaking, the Confederates and the Nazis have the same ideals. Just slightly different end goals.

Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
3 years ago

@Sandra

However…I’ve never heard of a WWII re-enactment that involves folks playing nazis

Turns out…
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_reenactment

In U.S. alone, by the end of the 1990s there were 20 Waffen-SS reenactment groups, out of approximately 40 groups dedicated to German World War II units. In contrast, there were 21 groups dedicated to the American units of the same timeframe

🙁

IgnoreSandra
3 years ago

@Axecalibur

…. Well that’s fucking depressing. Both of these things need to be stopped. Ugh.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
3 years ago

Re: battle reenactments

When I was a kid it was a big treat to go to a place called Peasolm Park in Scarborough. They do reenactments of naval battles on the boating lake using these 30 foot models of the warships. This actually dates back to just after WW1. But the tradition continues to this day. The reenactments were always based on Royal Navy victories, but latterly it was decided that wasn’t very nice for German tourists, so now they’re just generic battles between two unnamed forces (That just happen to exactly replicate the WW2 battles)

http://www.parkmanor.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/witness-a-naval-battle-in-peasolm-park.jpg

Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
3 years ago

@Sandra

Well that’s fucking depressing. Both of these things need to be stopped. Ugh

^Yep *sighs*

You are what you pretend to be, so be careful what you pretend to be
-Vonnegut

I don’t think especially highly of war reenactment generally. Just not comfortable with it. But when you choose to reenact the roles of slavers and genociders in wars about the morality of slavery and genocide, discomfort grows to suspicion, and I’ll be forgiven for giving such people very little benefit of doubt as far as their actual, OOC opinion of me…

Moggie
Moggie
3 years ago

War reenactment really ought to be called “soldier cosplay”, to emphasise the lack of realism. If the audience can come away from the event untraumatised, it’s sanitising war, which is irresponsible.

K.
K.
3 years ago

Now if Boston could just change the name of Yawkey Way…

GrumpyOld SocialJusticeMangina
GrumpyOld SocialJusticeMangina
3 years ago

The owner of the Red Sox claims he wants Yawkey Way renamed, but the city has to do it officially.

Leo
Leo
3 years ago

Yay, Boston! Good to see some positive news, and I agree with D that this is a good way to do it.

@Redsilkphoenix
I can definitely see the concern under present circumstances, and have never really felt comfortable with the idea of reenactments of relatively recent history, but in my experience and from my dad’s accounts of attending them (including with old soldiers, which sounded weird as heck to me, but they liked seeing it apparently), the reenactors have just been harmlessly obsessive history geeks. They were just interested in the nitty gritty details and understanding what it was like and stuff, not in celebrating Nazis or anything. I can kind of understand I guess, it’s possible to be interested in/like some things you feel you maybe shouldn’t, from a more detached perspective – I’ve often felt it’s a bit weird and contradictory that I’m deeply anti-war yet instantly fascinated by medieval battle and swords ‘n stuff. I suppose the potential risk of being drawn in by the idea of (sanitised, necessarily) violence might be a reason to avoid reenactments, itself. : /

Nanny Oggs Bosom
Nanny Oggs Bosom
3 years ago

@ Alan
I remember seeing those as a kid! Peaseholme Park was always on the list of laces to visit when we crossed the River to go to Scarborough. I’m actually going to Scarborough in three weeks for the PF North conference so I might see if I can squeeze in a visit to the park.

sarah_kay_gee
sarah_kay_gee
3 years ago

The Seattle coffee-thrower wasn’t a “crisis actor”. He’s apparently a local heavy metal singer involved in the “amateur wrestling” scene and there are multiple tweets confirming he’s a well-known weirdo who would absolutely dump lukewarm coffee on Alex Jones for the lulz.

Gussie Jives
Gussie Jives
3 years ago

@axecalibur

I don’t think especially highly of war reenactment generally. Just not comfortable with it. But when you choose to reenact the roles of slavers and genociders in wars about the morality of slavery and genocide, discomfort grows to suspicion, and I’ll be forgiven for giving such people very little benefit of doubt as far as their actual, OOC opinion of me…

Yeah, I think it’s pretty context specific. Speaking of my experiences seeing both the Citadel in Halifax and the Fortress of Louisbourg historic sites, I can see where reenactors can be appropriate. Both are organized and maintained by Parks Canada and have costumed actors in military attire posted as sentries and tour guides. I don’t see a lot of issues with Parks Canada employees cosplaying as a member of 78th Highlanders or a French sentry guard to greet tourists or demonstrate foot drills.

Actually reenacting battles, that’s a different story. IIRC, some of the War of 1812 battles were also re-enacted for the 200th anniversary. Being a militaria dork, I would actually find a viewing of a reenactment rather educational, but if you’re one of those guys who actually identifies with the Axis or the Confederacy, that’s where the problems lie, and I’m sure plenty of their reenactors do.

Scildfreja Unnyðnes
Scildfreja Unnyðnes
3 years ago

Military stuff. I used to enjoy the history of it all. Dude friends of course we all about “ahmigah look at how cool this tank is” and whatnot, which I always sort of rolled my eyes at. These days I narrow my eyes a bit at people who obsess over the details of military history without having a similar interest in the context of those conflicts. Fetishization of war, etc. It’s a common thing up here, and – well, I don’t think I need to explain why that makes me uncomfortable.

I’ve seen some excellent reenactment, but the absolute best was always the reenactment of the camps, the lives of soldiers on the march, etc. Almost universally poor people being dragged into these huge conflicts, facing death all around them, often with little more than a pair of boots, a bag of flour and a ratty blanket for comfort and survival. Being forced to fight through circumstances outside of their control, making do with what they could find or salvage. Terrible and inspiring in equal measure. That sort of reenactment I am entirely behind.

Battle reenactment, though? Gimme a foam axe and shield, and let me bonk some padding-swathed Normans. They’re just SCA enthusiasts without the sense of fun. Take themselves waaaaay too seriously.

As for the fucking Nazi-reenactment-enthusiasts? I’ve known for years that those jackoffs were serious. There’s a huge crossover between them and the dudes that enjoy military engineering for the “woah look at that cool tank” factor. They love powerful war machines, decisive and heartless decisions from military commanders (the more heartless the better, cause it just shows off how dedicated they are to their cause), and snappy uniforms that look impressive. They don’t process that those war machines destroy lives, those heartless decisions are needlessly brutal, and those snappy uniforms are meaningless. It’s all about the spectacle, the show of force.

Just like your average authoritarian, really.

If I had to sum up 2017, it’d have to be “Fuck the Nazis.” Jees.

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