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ALL you need to do, is have babis: Another Comment I Didn’t Let Through

A question that applies to MGTOWs too

By David Futrelle

I thought I would end this week by setting aside the Nazi Menace for a minute so we can plunge once again into the swirling male-strom of Men Going Their Own Way. Today’s MGTOW adventure comes in the form of a very long, though not very well proofread manifesto that some dude called Zachary left in the comments here about a week ago. I didn’t let it through moderation then because I wanted to share it with you all.

Zachary offers his highly scientific opinions on such pressing issues of the day as  1) why women should pretty much devote all their attention to “child baring,” 2) how women don’t appreciate that “US WHITE WESTERN MEN we BUILT EVERYTHING,” 3) how “[w]omen never hunted a fucking wooly mammoth ok,” and of course 4) SEX ROBOTS.

Let’s begin:

firstof all this is a self described Anti trump Anti White Male Blog, you admit that in the description. You should admit it in the comments.

Well, he’s right about the Trump thing, so I’ll give him a point for that.

2ndof all. the REASON women HAVE to be attractive, is because THATS JUST REALITY its ALL they have going for them ITS BIOLOGY and if you THINk for ONE SECOND that women are NOT supposed to be attractive, youre discounting millionsof years of evolutionary adaptaion…the dominance hierarchy has been around before we were even mamals, so stop acting lik women are intrested in anything but money and looks…..women ONLY care about how “good” a an is, ranking us all, constantly lookng for something better, and its not BAD its just NATURE women have to care for a baby and so want the best they can get for that child….its fucking biology stop DENYING uitr

men and women are NOT equal. Men have to work and invest things, and fight wars to defend you (Oh go ahead say “from other men” as if that means a damn thing) and women have to have babis. Sorry but women ave babies, so thats ALL you need to do, is have babis.

Wait, is it “babies” or “babis,” I need to know!

You have status for just existing. you DONT ADMIT that you HAVE IT EASY and then you WANT MORE money….while MEN and MGTOW just want our CHILDREN and our MONEY back…..why wont you women ever admit that women just steal mens money and kids, its a fact, you gusy trake all our shit,

Yeah,, you gusy, stop traking all his shit!

and its why us MGTOW have decided to NOT get married or live with women, or have children with western women, because its NOT all women who are ROTTEN TO TEH CORE its you nasty western american women, and any woman who is a “feminist”” and if youre NOT a traditionalist your a foolish feminist, following the rules set out by MEN to convince you to simply leave the home, leave your kids with the state and join th workforce to raise more taxes and become a slave to make other men more money!

Well, yeah, capitalism sucks in a lot of ways, but I’m pretty sure no women on earth would prefer marriage to you to even the shittiest job.

Russian and eastern european women are not feminist and they are perfectly normal women who charish their men, who dont have stupid pointless “careers” which are NOT careers you women have JOBS jobs you HATE and you LIE about t and are uNHAPPy and you are mEANT to be housewives and raise children and youre FOOLS for giving that lifestyle up for depression and your ovaries drying up!

For what it’s worth, women made up 48.7% of the workforce in Russia as of 2016, which is actually a little higher than the percentage in the United States (45.8%), according to the World Bank.

Youre SICk and your telling us we need to be reprogrammed?!?

Well, at the very least you need to reboot your typing module.

All of you American women are the same and youre monsters compared to Rusian or eastern european women or even some Asian women. You have to realize that natue is real, you were born female, youre NOT as intelligent as men, youre NOT as capable as Men in any way other than child baring and thats IT dont TELL us that women invented all of modern civilization, US MEN built it US WHITE WESTERN MEN we BUILT EVERYTHING and the computer your using the internet, ALl of it, e built it

That’s not actually true, but even if it were, I’m not sure why Zachary here should get vicarious credit for the work of other dudes.

and you seem to think a fw comments from some redit users represents all of MGTOW?

Dude, let’s just say that you’re not exactly dispelling any alleged myths about MGTOWs here.

let me tell u something about most Mgtow, forst of all u seem to be so atracted to us, writing blogs about us, youre LOVING our male agression and dominance, you LOVE being put in your place, you ALL want Mgtow men So badly because the ONE secret men teach other men about women, is that when you ignore women they go crazy and want you! Because they want to know WHY youre ignoring them and will start giving YOU attention.

Even though I’m a dude, I think I can speak for all women in saying: No, dude, the women of the world do not secretly want you, “badly” or any other way, and most would rather chew their own hands off than go on a date with you.

You women think you have any chance at winning some sort of intellectual battle witrh us men who program and buil and maintain al of society?

I’m fairly certain that you personally do none of these things.

Why dont you women go ouyt and try working the dangerous hazardous jobs us men do, nope, u just want the fun high paying jobs!

You’re honestly mad at women for preferring jobs that pay well and don’t suck to shit-paying jobs they hate? EVERYONE PREFERS THOSE JOBS. Not many of any gender can get them.

And women CHOOSE to ork lss THATS why you get paid less,

Lss ork means lss moenyy, ladies!

ITS A CHOICE you CHOOSE to go be with your familis whih is actually MORE important than money…..but you have to be SO COMPETITIVE and you HAVE to have JUST AS MUCH MONEY as a man even if youre not performing at the same level, like womens soccor, you think women should be paid just as much as mens soccor players? Well they dont make as much money selling tickets! they dont have as many peopel watchng so they CANt get as much money!

STAND UP AGAINST THE MISANDRY OF WOMEN’S SOCCER SORRY SOCCOR SALARIES

u wome dont undertand such SIMPLE concepts and its telling that youre in love with Mgtow!

You LOVE mgtow men bcauise we are INDEPENDENt AND we can get laid WHENEVER WE WANT

Yes, you certainly do sound like someone who gets laid whenever he wants.

And lets say there is a man who cant get laiud, lets say hes low status or hes fat or ugly, and he has no charm. Guess what? he can save up $200 and easily have sex with an extrenely attractive hookr, and that woman is proof that you have no argument!

I’m not sure that many women are making the argument that prostitution doesn’t exist.

And now, I regret to have to tell you, dear readers, he offers some thoughts on rape.

getting LAID is NOT some magial poer women have control over. men can get laid whenever they want. We can PHYSIOCALLy have sex with ANY woman we want if we REALLY wantd, that woul be rape but honestly you women seem like you dont care when us men get raped in prison and dont “count” that so I would like to know why men shouldnt rapoe women if you women think its ok for us MEN to get raped?

Why do so many of these dudes spend so much of their time trying to come up with excuses as to why rape is ok?

Never mind, I think that one answers itself.

Honstly id like to knopw, it doesnt seem very fair, i dont think rape is ok for eithr men or women, unlike you women who seem to think men in prison DESERVE to get rapoed…hmmm thats real “compasionaite” of you leftists

It’s true that lots of people (in the US at least) joke about prison rape, but I don’t think many of them are leftists or feminists. Leftists and feminists tend to think that prisons are shitty and that rape is horrible, wherever it happens and whoever the victims are.

Oh and you also are in lov with trump! all of you women who “hate” Trump, remembr, Love trumps harte and so you really should LOVE trump, hah, got you by your own bumper sticker!

Woah, SICK BURN ALERT.

You really have to not open youself up to such hardcore penetration of my ideas into the womb of your pyche,

Ewwww.

its realy not even fun. Its ljust work

Hate to tell you this, dude, but you are very bad at your work.

i have to write this comment, knowing yuoull be a coward and just delete it, because YOU NEED to see that youre in an ECHO CHAMBER and youre just writing this BLOG bcause youre LOOSING the information war!

Why would I delete such an amazing piece of self-owning nonsense as this?

You women are SO SCARED of Mgtrow growing into an even bigger movement

Wait it’s MGTROW now? I shudder to think what that R stands for.

WHich it is, its too late, and you omen will SIMPLY have to start being NICE to us men, and stop being total bitches

Why would any “omen” want to be nice to a boiling pustule of rage like you?

not IONCE have ytou aid ‘Thank You” for us white men inventing the Computer your using, the Intrnet your using, the fiber optic cabls its goint through the LCD scren ur watching the keybaord or tablet touschcren or smartphone your using, teh LETRICITy the AC current you using, a white man named nikola tesla inventd AC current in th Poer Line AND the radio waves youre getting you wifi frm! the car the planes you use, all invented by White Males, everything EVERYTHING you use in modern civilization, 99 percent of all useful inventions, all by white males! So why arent you worshiping us? Whre is this HATE coming from???

Dude, I’m pretty sure no women is obliged to worship you because Tesla invented some cool shit.

Why do you hate trump? WHy cant you even watch ONE speech? U simply watch MSNBC and read stupid leftist fake news articles and watch Colvbrt Lie about RUSSIA and trumps “collusion” which is a total lie, and you BELIVE it, and you PARROT this LIE that trump is a sexist….its pathetic

I’ve watched many Trump speeches, and let’s just say none of them made me like the man more.

and women hunting Mammoths is a joke! Maybe iut hapned ONCE but just because u saw it on some PBS special doesnt man its real, Feminits just made that story up, omen never hunted a fucking wooly mammoth ok? Women arent strong enough. Women are weak compared to men and women cannot fucking hunt wooly mamoths you just dont have the corindation and strength or stamina or spacial reasoning, stop acting like its SEXIST to STATE those FACTS they ARE NOT hate facts, its the TRUTH

I’m pretty sure that neither women nor men hunted mammoths on the regular back in the day, because, here’s the thing: mammoths can fucking kill you. And how are you going to eat all of that meat before it goes bad? I suspect our cave men and cave women ancestors were much more likely to hunt much smaller animals that could not kill them.

Oh and heres another thing about prostitution. I have never hadto usea hooker, but if you are a man who does, irts not hard, and you women jut hate th idea that men cant get laid whenever they want, without dealing with your shit….and you just HATE it…u HATE being obsolte

Prostitution has been around pretty much forever and it has yet to make women “obsolte.”

well i got another word for you honey, Sex Robots….

That’s two words.

they will eplace you bitchy nagging women so fast. Sorry but its true you guys are just bitchy and its annoying and men just wont oput up with youy untill you start waking us up with fellatiop out of COMPASSION , you have to trat us with respect and recognize our physical dominance ovr you, or you can watch us fuck a sex robot , its your choice,

And with that lovely image he ends his manifesto.

Though he ends it not with a period but with a comma, as if he might start typing again any moment. Hell, he might be off somewhere typing still.

This was all, by the way, intended as a rebuttal to the post Women don’t belong in nerd-friendly “male spaces,” because nerd girls are ugly, MGTOW explains and the comments it inspired.

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Dan Hoan
7 years ago

I peaced out around the time he was screaming about women hating their jobs and choosing families.

1. I went to an Ivy League grad school for 2 extra years to get into my career. (Not counting the extra year and a half I worked on my thesis)

2. I really enjoy my career.

3. I don’t enjoy babies. (or babis).

Honestly if you can’t treat me with respect, I don’t care if you keep fucking that robot. My vibrator was bought and paid for my the money I got working in my career and probably makes me feel better than this guy ever would.

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

What time was this screed posted? I’m thinking he was really,
really drunk. Possibly in a rage after being turned down.

the REASON women HAVE to be attractive, is because THATS JUST REALITY

So, what’s the consequence if a woman decides to be ugly? Does space time collapse in on itself or something?

Russian and eastern european women are not feminist

Looks like feminism has existed in Russia about as long as it’s existed in the evil, evil “west.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feminism_in_Russia

I’m expert on Russian feminism either, but hasn’t this dude at least heard of Pussy Riot?

let me tell u something about most Mgtow, forst of all u seem to be so atracted to us, writing blogs about us, youre LOVING our male agression and dominance, you LOVE being put in your place, you ALL want Mgtow men So badly

men just wont oput up with youy untill you start waking us up with fellatiop out of COMPASSION , you have to trat us with respect and recognize our physical dominance ovr you, or you can watch us fuck a sex robot , its your choice,

Huh. So, we all secretly want to fuck MGTOW, yet he has to beg us to wake him up with a blow job, not because we’re attracted to him, he knows that’s not gonna happen but out of compassion?

And I’d like to wish for no. I’ll take option three. Stay home and watch a horror movie. Or spend time with people who regard me as a human being. I’m not going to wake Zachary up with “fellatiop” and recognize his manly dominance. I’m also not going to watch him fuck a sexbot. He’s welcome to his sexbot. I’m just not going to watch him abuse it. You know he’s one of those guys who would break their sexbot in a rage pretty quickly.

IgnoreSandra
IgnoreSandra
7 years ago

Honestly, I’m not convinced men aren’t all clones of this one rapist’s written confession after suffering significant water damage. You could literally substitute any other straight white dude I’ve dealt with in my life in at any point, and he would have said the exact same thing the exact same way.

The only way I’d go on a date with this guy is under three conditions: 1, I have a powerful sedative I can slip into his drink, B: I or someone I care about will be shot if I don’t, and 4: For some reason I stop being a lesbian. Literacy is non-negotiable for me, as is a healthy sense of self, boundaries, and respect for me and people like me.

Still Fiqah
Still Fiqah
7 years ago

@WWTH, I just noticed “fellatiop,” and once I’ve decided what this delightful unintentional portmanteau means, I’m adding it to my feminist vagenda!*

(I take all of this seriously. I’ve simply resolved to fight Kyriarchy with silly cuz THESE FUCKNUGGETS CANNOT HAVE MY JOY DAMMEHT.)

Ghost Robot
Ghost Robot
7 years ago

This guy will absolutely die a virgin.

Pavlovs House
Pavlovs House
7 years ago

I could only make it about a quarter of the way through this strange screed before it was just too weird. The part about Russian women made me say the hell with it. I know a certain Russian woman who is feminine, and has a career. I see her beautiful face when I wake up in the morning. I feel very cherished but not charished. Zachary would be surprised to learn, though, that she somehow manages to be very feminine, cherish her (lucky) man and still be fiercely independent.

GrumpyOld SocialJusticeMangina
GrumpyOld SocialJusticeMangina
7 years ago

Nothing says intellectual superiority quite like a hundred mispellings per page.

Scildfreja Unnyðnes
Scildfreja Unnyðnes
7 years ago

Bina
7 years ago

@Lady Zombie:

Why are these sentient toadstools always so bad at grammar and spelling?

They Went Their Own Way from it. And coherent, rational thought too, apparently.

Otrame
Otrame
7 years ago

IgnoreSandra,

I know a lot of men. Less than a quarter of them are anything like this asshole. Seriously. Most men aren’t perfect. They grew up in this culture after all. But most are pretty decent. You shouldn’t assume they are all like this pathetic piece of slime*.

*apologies to slime
——–

You know what? I WOULD touch him with a ten foot pole–an electrified ten foot pole. Repeatedly. Until he learned to proof read his utterances, quit assuming that women are generic, or that only white European men ever invented anything. And then admit that he is a MGTOW because he knows there isn’t a woman on the fucking planet that will fuck him.

SpukiKitty
SpukiKitty
7 years ago

@Mish
I’m so sorry for your brother. I hope he gets the best therapy and medication so his HIV doesn’t progress.

Here’s a little something for you and your brother….
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….May you both find healing and may your brother make a full recovery. Scars may be forever but scars can fade over time. I wish the gentleman the best.

Carrie
Carrie
7 years ago

When *certain online dudes* gripe that we don’t thank him and other men for buildings, plumbing, cars, etc., I make a point of thanking him for:
Formaldehyde
VOCs
EMFs
asbestos
(carcinogenic) fire-retardant baby clothes
CFCs
HFCS
lead-based house paints
(toxic) ethyl gasoline
all pre-freon refrigerants
And perhaps war, if I’m in the mood to drag it on.

When they invariably whip out the Camille Paglia line about us all living in mud huts were it not for men, I tell them that frankly I would rather live in a nice, nature-built home than the mandatory cancer-causing box society has all all striving to own for six (or more) figures.

Patty Thinkerer
Patty Thinkerer
7 years ago

I read that with my own two eyes, and sweet potatoes, if that wasn’t a prime example of mgtow/mra-ness leading to alt-rightness, what with the whole “white guys invented all the things” and whatnot.

Nina
Nina
7 years ago

He’s right you know. Women have been Orking less.

What? I am orking all the time, usually in the early mornings or when confronted with MGTOW nonsense. I mean right now I am orking so hard I could probably hunt down a mammoth or two.

Lucrece
Lucrece
7 years ago

I love* how he can spell ‘hierarchy’ properly, but not much else.

(* it’s an ironic love)

abars01
abars01
7 years ago

I’m reporting this guy to PETK (People for the Ethical Treatment of Keyboards).

freneticferret
freneticferret
7 years ago

How is babi formed?

Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
7 years ago

Well, I’m convinced.

That’s some top-rate thinking and typing.

And honestly, I would resign my commission as ambassador of the feminist government in exile — but the money is just too good. Hope you can understand, dude!

SpukiKitty
SpukiKitty
7 years ago

“Orking”
Nanoo Nanoo!

Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
7 years ago

@Mish

I’m so sorry to hear about your brother. I know that when he’s suffering you’re suffering. I hope that you both can find some peace with this horrible situation.

Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
7 years ago

@Otrame

I know a lot of men. Less than a quarter of them are anything like this asshole. Seriously. Most men aren’t perfect. They grew up in this culture after all. But most are pretty decent

I like to think I’m, on my better days, one of those “pretty decent” dudes. I promise, we’re not the majority. And among straight, white guys specifically, fuggedaboudit. Happy your male acquaintances are, at most, only 25% shit. But, like, ~45% of (Murican) men still think Trump’s doing a good job, so…

Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
7 years ago

This dude doesn’t understand anything.

Orcas ork.

The rest of us labor or possibly toil.

Horrorfan510
Horrorfan510
7 years ago

Perhaps he meant “Bork”, a refrence to the fact that people who take the exceedingly dangerous job of Swedish Muppet chef are disproportionally male!

D. D. Webb
7 years ago

I’m pretty sure that neither women nor men hunted mammoths on the regular back in the day, because, here’s the thing: mammoths can fucking kill you. And how are you going to eat all of that meat before it goes bad? I suspect our cave men and cave women ancestors were much more likely to hunt much smaller animals that could not kill them.

Not to get all pedantic, Dave, but human predation is the likely reason for the extinction not only of the woolly mammoth, but most megafauna which existed concurrently with modern humans. It’s all about tools and strategies; there are methods, working in groups and using such things of pit traps, of taking down large, dangerous prey, even with extremely primitive technology.

Interestingly, this mostly occurred at the hands of hunter-gatherer groups before the development of agriculture, and therefore before the widespread adoption of gender roles. In a hunter-gatherer society, tribal and family units help one another but ultimately everyone is responsible for acquiring his or her own food. This lack of specialization is why the development of technology occurs in settled societies with food surpluses. The tendency to sort people into often arbitrary groups is one of the regrettable side effects of this advancement to a less materially vulnerable form of society.

tl;dr: Men and women hunted mammoths, and those who did would have been utterly baffled by the suggestion that half their population shouldn’t be involved in the task.

epronovost
epronovost
7 years ago

There is so much rage and impotence in that long winded rant. Here is a man who wants to be respected and important, but is nothing more than a nameless, hatefull crank. I almost pity people like that. If only they weren’t dangerous at the same time.