By David Futrelle
Donald Trump took a few minutes out from his golf vacation today to threaten North Korea with the “fire and fury” of a massive, possibly nuclear, military strike. “They will be met with fire, fury and frankly power the likes of which this world has never seen before,” a stern-voiced Trump, his arms uncharacteristically crossed, told reporters at his Bedminster golf club.
On Reddit’s TheDonald — the popular subreddit, with nearly half a million subscribers, that is home to the site’s most fervent Trump superfans — the regulars are itching for Trump to pull the trigger.
Some are using the occasion as an excuse to make jokes that are awful in every sense of the word:
Others are happily talking about the effect the president’s apocalyptic rhetoric allegedly had on their penises.
More than a few were happy to write off North Korea’s entire population, greeting the prospect of the literal genocide of the North Korean people with a shrug.
For many TheDonald regulars, the possible annihilation of millions matters far less than the prospect of “triggering” their ideological foes.
There’s the requisite anti-Asian racism:
And an assortment of other bigotries, because why not use the possibility of nuclear war with North Korea as an opportunity to make jokes about Muslim rapists and “tr*nnies” and a former president many deplorables have decided was secretly gay in addition to being Kenyan.
Only a few commenters struck a note of caution.
Finally, someone they can show a little sympathy to — themselves!
Just a reminder, when then-candidate Trump did an “Ask Me Anything” appearance on Reddit, he didn’t do it in the subreddit where AMA’s traditionally have taken place. He did it in TheDonald. The subreddit’s 470,926 subscribers aren’t fringe characters in Trump World; they are his base.
That explains a lot of my confusion.
On my part, it was more of a guess based on other authoritarian regimes.
@Dash, welcome! I like your nickname.
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No idea why.
All I can really say is I hope we don’t have to be as worried as this sounds like we should be. I agree about the need to change US military culture (and culture in general it seems), otherwise I think if it doesn’t happen now, it will still be inevitable. If it did happen now, and if there was an after, I can imagine people -even some who think they’re leftwing- justifying it, especially if the US came out of it reasonably Ok (never mind about all those poor Asian people, the US would be what counted to them). Nothing being learned, and worse still being inevitable.
@Diego Duarte
Hmm, my feeling is that it’s not internalised disableism, as the people reacting that way to it being pointed out that they’re wrong are usually abled, or at least don’t have a specific learning disability. It might poss. be disableism in general? I think it’s mostly plain old stubborn defensiveness, though. What my internalised disableism does is make me hyper-anxious about being right, and take unnecessary care to be so, as I’ve spent so long being treated like I’m wrong by default. I can’t always even dismiss blatant wilful ignorance in full confidence (if anyone has any tips on unlearning this, that’d be appreciated?). I got really anxious over this nuclear debate online last time when I was querying the idea NK should mean the UK absolutely definitely NEEDS Trident, lest NK apparently nuke us.
I respect that people have varying feelings on this, but as someone with an actual diagnosed learning disability, dyscalculia, I’m not really comfortable with the word ‘stupid’ (which often implies wilful ignorance, or is just used to make fun of a silly mistake) being avoided on the grounds of it being potentially disableist. I’d be insulted to be called stupid for having dyscalculia (which I don’t think is the way it’s typically used, not purposefully – in which case the real issue isn’t the usage of the term it’s the fact the disability has gone undiagnosed), not by the usage of the term in and of itself. Avoiding the term kind of equates it, it’s a learning disability, it has nothing to do with stupidity. I kind of need to be able to dismiss people (eg. Trump’s core devotees) as stupid or similar sometimes, as a coping strategy.