By David Futrelle
Andrew Anglin, publisher of the neo-Nazi tip sheet DailyStormer.com, doesn’t usually have many nice things to say about Muslims, especially Muslims living in the West. But he’s made an exception of two young Londoners, Mujahid Arshid, and Vincent Tappu.
What makes these two fellows “honorable,” in Anglin’s eyes? Arshid has been charged with the brutal rape and murder of 19-year-old Celine Dookhran and the kidnapping, rape and attempted murder of another young woman who survived her assault; Tappu has been charged in the kidnapping of both women. According to prosecutors, the two were enraged that Dookhram, of Indian descent, was planning to marry an Arab man.
And so, while acknowledging that the violence inflicted upon these two women was “gruesome,” Anglin actually praises the alleged killer and his accomplice for their “hardcore defense of [their] race.”
In a recent post on The Daily Stormer (archived here), Anglin declares
the men who did it were defending their race, and as extreme and gross as the act was, you have to have a little bit of respect for them.
Reveling in the bloody details of the crime, Anglin writes admiringly that
These guys kidnapped women of their own race and raped them, and after one escaped with her throat half-slit, they chopped the other up and stuffed her in a freezer.
Because the women were race-mixing.
Anglin goes on to urge white men in the west to emulate the two — at least up to a point.
So I’m just going to throw this out there: imagine if white men cared this much about their own women race-mixing. …
I’m certainly not implying White men should be kidnapping White female race-mixers, raping them and chopping them up and shoving them in freezers for fucking n***ers. Although honestly, I wouldn’t feel bad if that happened, it is more than our women would require to get back in line.
Instead of murdering “race-mixing” white women, Anglin suggests that white men simply harass them viciously in public.
If we had a movement to shame these whores, that would go a long, long way. If you see these people in Walmart, for instance, look the white woman directly in the eyes and say “how does that n***er dick taste, whore?”
You can’t get in trouble for that. Her buck is not going to attack you in a Walmart, and if he does he’ll be arrested and it will get in the media. Which is good. They won’t print your name, because you are the victim, but they will say that you made a “racially insensitive comment about the woman’s mixed race relationship.”
You can also yell from your car. If you see women with someone of another race, slow down, roll down your window and yell: “n***er-fucking whore! What does your father think????”
Just start doing this.
Now. …
If you look a woman in the eye and call her a n***er-fucking whore, she will remember that for the rest of her life.
Do it.
Once again, it seems the main difference between American neo-Nazis and the Islamist fanatics they so often denounce are the colors of their respective skins.
H/T — FSTDT.com
I don’t drive and have no licence, don’t plan on getting one either, even if I wasn’t too poor to be able to afford it.
I live in walking distance to pretty much everything. One of the main bus routes is right beside my building. Groceries, about a 15min walk away, 30min if I want to walk to the store across the harbour.
I don’t think I could handle living in the ‘burbs. I love being able to walk everywhere, well…at least when I feel like I can handle being outside around people.
As the proud owner of the penis in question, Anglin, or any other brazen troglodyte who tries to harass me and my girlfriend like this, will find themselves cordially, and with giggling mirth, invited to eat a dick. Least then his disgusting mouth will be doing summat useful. Not my dick, mind, I don’t fuck fascists. Nor anyone else’s really, wouldn’t wish that on my worst enemy. Hey, I wonder how flexible Andy is…
@kupo
Preach! Can’t imagine anywhere else having a transit system as bad as MARTA, but I’ll take your word that yall’s is terrible. I’m sorta lucky in that there’s a bus stop a measure of feet from my front door. Also very unlucky in that one of the major roads that’s near me, the one on which I work and which connects the downtowns of 2 cities, inexplicably doesn’t have a bus that goes end to end
But MARTA’s notoriously awful, so that doesn’t even surprise me. And I live about as far out as buses even go. Leave Fulton or DeKalb counties, and you’re fucked without a car. The reasons for which were primarily racist in origin and articulated here better than I could:
http://www.atlantamagazine.com/great-reads/marta-tsplost-transportation/
@Troubelle
@Axe
I’m unsure what is meant to be communicated here, and if it’s positive or negative. I’ve heard the term, just dunno the full context here.
@Scildfreya
Is this really a hypercapitalism issue? I was under the impression that a substantial chunk of the problem was a cultural one; trains are what poor people and communists use, so they should be choked of any sort of funding and treated with contempt.
@Dormousing_it
Try reading what I wrote again, they were considered ‘uneducated and indolent’ by British people in India in the late eighteenth century. It’s a direct quote from a letter of the time. Pretty certain your grandmother wasn’t alive over 220 years ago. Her hard work and education are not related to the behaviour of people dead a century before she was born; apparently the Indonesian-Dutch women of the 1600 – 1800’s weren’t given much education at all, relied on slaves for everything, and their manners were considered decidedly un-European.
@Troubelle
In the world of rap/organized crime, it means you’re with us (ride, referencing DMX’s Ruff Ryders) or you’re against us (die, referencing, well… ya know)
In the world of romantic relationships, it means you’re all in. Up to, but perish the thought, swinging hands at racist muffugas in a Walmart. A ride or die partner (it’s usually talking about the ‘chick’ in a hetero couple but can be, and often is, used for and by any partner) supports their SO, will fight for their SO, and, most importantly, demands the same in return. It’s absolutely seen as positive
Drat missed the Edit. Dormousing-it I meant your mother-in-law. Either way, point still stands.
@WWTH
Yes, you North Americans are strange. It amazes me that so many seem to think the entire world is like the segregated US.
According to my family stories, a ‘girl in every port’ was fairly common, as was adultery by those women, because why the hell not? My(dad’s mother’s father) great grandad was not my great grandad, that was his brother; and my (dad’s dad) grandad had some painful treatments after his three trips round the world. Sending 15 + year old boys and men to sea for long periods of time surprisingly led to a lot of sex once they reached a port. Given the questionable availability of effective contraceptives up until the 1960s, I’d have thought it was obvious that ‘mixed-race’ children would be the result.
R.e. Driving
I’m 34, I have a provisional license so that I can have driving lessons and I can, with a CBT certificate, ride a motorcycle below 125 cc. I used to actually, but then my MIs got worse and my autistic traits got less controlled so I had to give up. Still got my scooter, but I need to sell it to buy food or pay the rent. We have reasonable public transport here so I can manage quite well, but sometimes it would be nice not to share space with a load of strangers. But I do get to read while I’m travelling.
It’s not surprising that these cowards are only recommending that their acolytes attack women for “race-mixing”. The thought of approaching a man who is in an interracial relationship must make them wet their pants. I’m a man in an interracial marriage. If Andrew Anglin is so tough, why doesn’t he come up to me, face-to-face-man-to-man, and start some shit? We all know the answer to that.
“If you see these people in Walmart, for instance, look the white woman directly in the eyes and say “how does that n***er dick taste, whore?”
Such tough words. I’m not usually a violent person, but if anyone said something this vile to me (whatever the equivalent is for white/East Indian couples), he’d better run. I am not “his” woman, and I won’t ever get “back in line” for racist pigs, because I don’t bow to wanna-be terrorists.
I’m half a foot taller than Anglin and at my physically strongest, I could carry him on my back (I have terrible arm strength, but I could lift weights as heavy as him on the back press), so I bet that if I ever had the misfortune of meeting him in person, he’d be too much of a coward to say anything.
@Axe
Okay, that’s confirmed!
…I should note that I’ve established with my girl (who is white) that local relationships are OK on both sides as long as everyone’s informed. So, we’re poly, but…neither of us have really had a chance to actually do the thing. That said, that still leaves a chance for this to come into play depending on who, if anyone, I get into a local relationship with between now and the ride down. (Which is gonna be, uh…literal years. o-o)
Of course, there’s also the case of someone being casually racist or racist to someone else, which could happen anywhere the mere thought of people who aren’t white exists. Depending on the situation, it could vary from “catch hands” to “catch entire body of heavyset person”.
Similar to the driver licence obsession you talk of here, my father was obsessed with me learning to use a bike. I never really cared for it, and my poor sense of balance combined to not being interested meant I never actually succeeded in that.
Their official reason was that I was supposed to regulary bike to see friends and all, a case that never actually happened. I think nowaday that it was just because they were seeing it as a sign of “maturity” or “independance” or whatever.
The actual driver licence have gone swimmingly because, unlike a bike, a car was something I could see a use for, since the place where I studied was like 40km from my home. Still, my father insisted in my doing like 300km in a row without pause, which was completely and utterly stupid given how tiring it can be.
I did choose Paris as a city to land in because of the public transportation. In the end, the main thing my father teached me is to not trust common sense and older people wisdom. The world change too quickly to accept advices without a critical look at it.
One delightful thing about our older son – if my husband and I could have had a biological child, he would have looked a lot like him. Younger son looks more like my husband’s side.
Anglin is an excellent example of how the most vehement defenders of the ‘white race’ are the worst representatives of it.
“You! Where the fuck is your chin?”
I once had a driver’s license, now I do not. I hate driving, and am fortunate enough to live somewhere with a fairly functional transit system.
@Scildfreja
Oh dear, is it time for the efficiency discussion again? To do something efficiently means to do it with the least expenditure of resources for the desired goal. North American (especially U.S.) transportation systems are ludicrously inefficient; it takes a fantastic amount of energy per passenger or cargo unit mile, not to mention the costs of building and maintaining the infrastructure (and indeed automobiles themselves are effectively part of our transportation infrastructure, which is left to such private resources as may be allocated there. This is a terrible way to run infrastructure, and it shows on American roads), and the knock-on costs from pollution thus generated.
Trains are never ‘economically viable’ on a capitalist basis. On any sensible economic measure the long distances between US or Canadian cities makes trains a better idea, not a worse one. As far as transit inside conurbations goes, you’re entirely right about the effects of suburbs on non-automotive options. This is because suburbs have no economic use or value whatsoever, and ought to be abolished as the cancers on the land that they are. The entire point and purpose of suburbs was to enable racial (and to an extent class) segregation, and all economic analyses were subordinate to that one overriding goal. This is, incidentally, also the motivation behind the crap mass transit the U.S has in general.
@Rhuu
Of course they bloody do. Roads do too, as do railroads, airports, ports, sidewalks, and indeed every kind of transit infrastucture beyond goat paths. That’s the whole bloody point of infrastructure: the profit accrues to society generally, not to any specific body, and as such private entities can’t make a profit on it. Thus, the government, as a fiscal representative of society, pays the freight. That’s kind of the whole idea behind government and taxes in the first place.
@Pie
Also racism. Whenever the U.S. makes a collossally dreadful policy decision, it’s pretty much always because of racism.
@Axe
Is that the original usage, do you know? Because I’ve recently encountered the other usage, and was wondering where the phrase came from.
And owning a car, keeping it (legally) roadworthy, whatever vehicle taxes may exist where you are, plus insurance … is hella expensive. Plus parking charges. Ugh.
No argument to any of that @Dalillama. The “Efficiency” i was talking about was comparing road-networks-for-private-automobiles, and not best-way-to-move-people-and-things. The roads in North America can handle huge volumes of traffic with relatively few accidents compared to other places. That’s all I was referring to!
@Troubelle
Exact same. Well, she’s poly (and married, duh. But that’s from before, so I don’t really count that), but I’m totally allowed on the off chance
We’re only dealing with a matter of months *knocks on wood* and it’s rough. Y’all have my sympathies, you poor, poor dears 🙁
Hey, you gotta spear somebody, you gotta spear somebody. All there is to it 😛
@Dali
Not sure. I know the term from DMX. Or rather, I know it from Sean ‘P/Puff/Puffy Daddy/Diddy’ Combs’ Vote or Die initiative in 2000, which introduced me to the DMX song. I can’t think of or find an older usage from quickly googling, so probably. Best song to play on the relationship version of ride or die tho:
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@Scildfreya
The word you’re looking for is ‘effective’. The U.S. transportation system is remarkably effective for being such a total clusterfuck in its basic premises.
@opposablethumbs
Yuppers. And that means that if you can’t get a good job or a loan (because of, say, racism), you can’t have a functional way to get anywhere, which inhibits all kinds of social participation, especially when things are deliberately set far apart.
@Axe
🙂
Seconded. Geography sucks.
Thanks
And, of course, since 2008’s financial crisis, to a fair approximation nobody has a good job anymore. You hear the talking heads talking about a “recovery” and “low unemployment” and “high stock market” and “high GDP” as if everything’s back to the status quo ante, but the jobs lost in 2008 were mostly full-time jobs with benefits, and the jobs created since have been mostly part-time minimum wage jobs without benefits. A large fraction of people took a massive pay cut and lost benefits and never got either back. The cake is a lie.
(1) One of the reasons that a driver’s license has been almost mandatory for teenage guys (other than the direct badge of adulthood reason), is that it has traditionally been difficult to have a girlfriend unless you could drive and had access to a car. In my generation, a LOT of people lost their virginity in a car, and a lot of us were conceived in cars. My younger son, on the other hand, only got his license at 23 when he got a job that required him to commute to a place where there was no public transportation. (He has a very high degree of immunity to peer pressure.)
(2) We go to the Orlando area every winter for a couple of weeks. Orlando has a very good, inexpensive bus system, and I discovered that you can take a one-hour $2 bus ride to downtown to get a rental car and pay about 50% what rentals cost at the airport. I have done this several times and (except for my wife) always been the only white person on the bus.
(3) I think we need an approved word for what most people really mean by “crazy” — i.e., not mentally ill, but seriously challenged in cognitive skills like critical thinking. I think “deranged” has been deemed sort of acceptable in the past, but it really isn’t a “clean” word (still has mental illness connotations).
(4) In any discussion of racial issues in the US, I think people tend to attribute racist opinions far too much to personal failures of individuals and not nearly enough to the well-organized propaganda campaign that has been carried on by the US Right Wing for over 40 years. An article in today’s Washington Post seems to me to be an excellent summary of this campaign and its effects. The Left has thought that labeling such views as “racist” should be enough, but in fact we have done a very poor job of trying to counteract the racist propaganda — we have not come close to winning the battle for people’s minds. Remember that the targets of the propaganda live in mostly non-diverse regions, so they don’t meet a lot of real non-white people who might change their views. The Right Wing has no compunctions about telling lies with a straight face if it benefits them politically and economically, but most lefties are not comfortable telling barefaced lies, so we have to take a different tack. So far we haven’t.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2017/08/02/the-trump-administration-takes-up-the-cause-of-oppressed-white-people/?tid=pm_opinions_pop&utm_term=.0450a8424f9c
There’s a great story about how when William Faulkner was working in LA as a screenwriter, he used to go out for late night walks as he was used to doing at home in Mississippi. The police picked him up on suspicion that he was casing homes for burglars, and he barely talked himself out of it.
When I was in grad school I lived 3/4 of a mile on a fairly major highway from a convenience store. I got questioned by the police twice in a year for walking there and back.
@GOM
I don’t think it’s good to use a person’s cognitive skills as an insult, either. Let’s say I’m poor at spatial cognition. Is that a quality I should be mocked for?
Usually when I see the word “crazy” thrown around it means, “that person has ideas I disagree with on a fundamental level” and it’s used to dismiss the person entirely and pretend like no one would ever take what the person says seriously. It’s used as a way of steering the conversation away from a behavior, pattern, group, etc. that the person using the term is uncomfortable with and to avoid having to address a problem that person sees as a non-problem.
We see it all the time in here when sealions come in to inform us that Elam/Roosh/Anglin/Rodgers/etc. are just crazy and why even bother discussing it when there’s no way to reason with people like them.
We don’t need another word for crazy; we need to examine why we’re trying to use that word each and every time we start to do so and to address the actual problem we’re seeing rather than brushing it off as “crazy.”
TMI alert:
I’ve actually never even had sex in a car. Maybe because I didn’t have sex at all until college. I always wonder how much the teenagers having sex in cars thing was a pop culture myth and how much of it was reality.
I think once middle and upper class moms started working outside the home more, it was easier for teenagers to find a chaperone free house to do it in instead.
@Dali
Any reason you ask, or just curious?
@Grumpy
No. If you’re convinced by propaganda to hate people cos they’re a different color than you, you’re a racist. You’re a scared, insecure shit regardless, and the propaganda just gave you an outlet. And this 40 years nonsense? As if people weren’t racist in 1967 or 57 or 47. Bullshit. Talk radio and 24hr news directed existing racism, it didn’t create any fuckin thing. But you’re right, it’s not individual failures. It’s the collective failure of white people to see anyone else as fully human for 400 years that’s the problem here /rant
@ epitome of incomprehensibility
It’s important to remember that in the US almost all cities, except those on the east coast and a scattered few elsewhere, were still quite small until after cars became available. The result is that many cities here are spread out, going horizontal instead of vertical. People here in San Antonio (which is one of the older cities in the US, 1718, but which remained quite small until after WWII, though it is now the 9th largest city in population in the country) can manage on buses, but it is an enormous hassle, involving hours of time each day. Having a car, even for quite poor people, is probably the best bet unless you live and work on the same bus route and there is a grocery store and other needed retailers nearby.
We had a friend from the UK visit a few years ago. We were going to the movies in the cool new theater. We all got in the car and drove a while, perhaps 20 minutes, and he asked, “Where are we now?” We explained that we were still in San Antonio. The place we were going was in San Antonio, but would take another half an hour to get to, due to weekend traffic. And we would not have crossed even half the city in that time. The friend was astonished. If my son and his then-wife hadn’t recently come from living at Ft. Monroe on the Chesapeake Bay, they would have thought he was nuts, but in that part of Maryland and Virginia a mix of middle-sized cities and smaller towns, have grown into border-to-border with no space between them, so they had an idea why he was confused.
Of course, in the small towns and in the country, it is almost necessary to have a car. Things are spread out, and no one has any sort of public transportation.
And yes, there is a certain amount of “adult” definition in having a car, but it is still combined with pragmatism.
…I’m getting increasingly concerned about my chances in the overworld.