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Trumpcare dead!? GOP has lost two more votes! Open Thread

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By David Futrelle

BAM! Two more Republicans have announced they’ll be voting no on moving forward on Trumpcare, for a total of four. So it looks like the bill is DONE.

DISCUSS! Celebrate! No trolls,  Trump fans allowed!

UPDATE: McConnell is now pushing REPEAL ONLY. Seems like a desperate move, but we need to keep calling and protesting!

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Myriad
Myriad
7 years ago

Ah, thank the old Gods and the new. That is a load off my mind.

Patty Thinkerer
Patty Thinkerer
7 years ago

Good news, so scarce nowadays! Here’s hoping for 2018, since people realize their voices do matter!

Aussiesmurf
7 years ago

Mad props to the team at Talking Points Memo (completely unaffiliated with me) for their reporting which literally got Ron Johnson to change his vote.

joekster (bearded beta)
joekster (bearded beta)
7 years ago

Hey, Moran is one of my senators. Does that mean I have to vote for him next time around?

I did send him emails.

And posted an op-ed in the local paper.

Maybe it made a difference.

numerobis
numerobis
7 years ago

Don’t let your guard down. You have to cut off its head just to be sure.

dreemr
dreemr
7 years ago

I’m cautiously pleased.

I would feel a lot better if there were more than 2.

Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
7 years ago

Cynical take: People are excited because four Republicans are against genocide. In any other circumstance, that’d be worded as “Only four, what the holy flying fuck.”

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee
weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee
7 years ago
Ichthyic
Ichthyic
7 years ago

Don’t let your guard down. You have to cut off its head just to be sure.

exactly.

remember how it “failed” in the house.. then a month later, after the proper bribes were given, lo and behold it was on its way to the senate.

Tosca; Chaos made Flesh, Servant of the Purring Jew
Tosca; Chaos made Flesh, Servant of the Purring Jew
7 years ago

Hey, Moran is one of my senators. Does that mean I have to vote for him next time around?

@Joekstar: I don’t think you need to go so far as to vote for him, but send him an email thanking him for protecting the interests of his constituents. Reward them when they do…can’t say well, let’s go with not terribly.

I’m in Australia, but I’m feeling particularly bad for you Americans because I’m chewing into my country’s Dreaded Socialised Healthcare as we speak. In late May I discovered I had a very unusual kind of malignant melanoma.

So far, The Lump has resulted in the following medical treatment:
– original consultation with GP to peruse The Lump
– removal of The Lump in the GP’s surgery
– removal of stitches and wound check by nurse/GP
– histology examination which showed The Lump to be malignant
– GP consultation to discuss histology report and arrange further treatment
– consultation with plastic surgeon
– consultation with anaesthetist
– surgical removal of Lump under general anaesthetic by plastic surgeon, including split skin graft and removal of separate lump
– overnight stay in hospital
– 4-week course of prophylactic antibiotics
– histology examination of excised tissue x 2
– 3x dressing changes by nurse with GP examination

So far I’m out of pocket a grand total of…around $130. I’m trying to imagine a world where I would have had to pay for this myself, and it’s terrifying. You have ALL my sympathy and support.

If your representative looks like supporting this shitshow, contact them – yours just may be the one letter that breaks the camel’s back. If your representative is against this stitshow, contact them with your thanks.

PeeVee the (Perpetually Ignored, Invisible but Noice) Sarcastic
PeeVee the (Perpetually Ignored, Invisible but Noice) Sarcastic
7 years ago

I want to hear ot from that asshole McConnell’s mouth before I get overly optimistic.

And may I say, Ted Cruz, bite me.

Aussiesmurf
7 years ago

Don’t forget that 3 of the 4 Republicans who are opposing the bill are opposing it because it ISN’T HARSH ENOUGH.

BritterSweet
7 years ago

Don’t let your guard down. You have to cut off its head just to be sure.

Thirded. Pleasepleasepleasepleaseplease!

Iseult The Idle
Iseult The Idle
7 years ago

I want this to be true, but they’re Republicans. They’ll fall into line; it’s what they do.

Eh, maybe I’m wrong. I’d be so happy to be wrong about this.

Strawberry Wizard
Strawberry Wizard
7 years ago

@numerobis

And afterwards nuke it from orbit.
It’s the only way to be sure.

Tov01
Tov01
7 years ago

To quote someone from twitter, this reminds me of the part of the horror movie where you’re shouting at the protagonist that the monster isn’t actually dead.

Dalillama: Irate Social Engineer

@joekster
No, he’s still human garbage.

JS
JS
7 years ago

@Tosca, sorry about the cancer, but thank you so much for a view into the world of Socialized Medicine that’s working. That would cost probably at least $5000 out of pocket unless you have expensive medical insurance in the US.

I went to the ER for a kidney stone blockage (couldn’t pee very much for 5 hours or so), treatment was “Have patient wait about 5 minutes, put patient on bed, start IV, hand him urinal, let him pass the stone in 5 minutes, then give narcotic pain meds, watch for an hour or so.” Charge? Would have been $6000 out of pocket. Though I did manage to get the Hospital’s own charity to cover $5000 or so after I sent them a copy of my TAX RETURN to prove need and ability to pay. Wound up costing me $1000 for an IV and pain meds.

And yes, they gave the pain medication after the stone was gone. Fucking great timing.

JS
JS
7 years ago

Oh, I missed the part were surgery and anesthesia was involved. Make that at least $15000 “sticker price”. Which supposedly no one really pays unless they use a credit card to pay the bill. US Medicine is what happens when capitalism is crossed with insurance and “I have to have this done or I die”.

Keep calling your Senators and Reps, this isn’t over yet.

Micharion
Micharion
7 years ago

It’s not over yet. Mitch McConnell is planning for straight up repeal no replace. Even though McConnell tried to use compromise as a scare tactic that didn’t work he is now going for the nuclear option just like the little bastard did with Gorsuch a dumbass. This turtle should have been put to pasture long ago.

Tov01
Tov01
7 years ago

@Micharion
I see the monster has shuffled to it’s feet already. What a mess.

Jules
Jules
7 years ago

Ding dong – the bill is dead! Of course, now they’re saying they’re going to try “Repeal and Delay,” as in, just repeal ACA, but have the full effects delayed over 2 years when they will supposedly have something to replace it with (yeah, I doubt that very much).

Aussiesmurf

Mad props to the team at Talking Points Memo (completely unaffiliated with me) for their reporting which literally got Ron Johnson to change his vote.

*clicks link* Wow, I didn’t know that. They did that. LOL. That’s a thing that just happened. Please excuse my cackle:

*cackles riotously*comment image

@Tosca:
I’m sorry to hear that and am glad you have access to care. I’m frankly dumbfounded you’ve paid $130 for something so major… I’d expect to add more zeros to that number. I wish you good and better health.


My situation isn’t serious, just embarrassing and sad. $120/yr is how much the dental discount plan (not insurance) I’m considering costs. Between the expensive needs of my teeth (almost a thousand and a half dollars for a few cavities) and my eyes (can’t see well through my old prescription, scratched up glasses–I’ve taken to tilting my head to see through the one sorta clear spot sometimes) and now being blacklisted from medical insurance for the rest of the year thanks to the GOP’s insistence on that evil little addendum to the ACA, my healthcare is…nonexistent.

I’m angry about the insurance thing for so many reasons (I want those jerfaces to tell me I’m unworthy to my face), but I found a new one today: that tactics helps cut down the number of insured, making ACA look less effective, and they get to use me as part of the statistics on people who’ve “dropped out” of Obamacare. I didn’t drop out. I missed my payment and now they won’t let me get it back or give me a viable alternative.

Imagine if you had your car insurance cancelled but weren’t allowed to get car insurance again, from anyone, for the rest of the year, but could still be ticketed for driving without insurance. Supposedly this will “teach you a lesson.” More likely it’s to make sure the insurance plan fails politically. …This is our government.

Catherwood
Catherwood
7 years ago

I’m reading that the straight repeal thing is even deader: it’s a much easier “no” for the R’s. It’s also already been rated by the CBO as not just horrible, but grinning, mad-eyed horror, slowly twisting sickly green eyeball lights horrible.

Sure, that attracts yes votes from the dark forces. But enough R’s are aware that they will face voting-booth retribution on this if they vote for it that excretion will be the better part of valor (i.e. they’ll wet themselves).

I think. Who can tell any more what’s real and what’s fever dream?

And yeah, @Tosca, thinking positive thoughts, mate. Sounds like it was caught pretty early, so fight on!

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