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By David Futrelle
One brave “involuntarily celibate” Redditor has come up with what I think you’ll have to admit is an ingenious way to get around the fact that no living human woman wants to have sex with him: have sex with women who are “recently deceased!”
I mean, it’s not like they can say no after they’re dead! Heck, they won’t even notice that you’re having sex with them, being dead and all. No harm no foul!
Posting in the now-banned IncelHeaven subreddit last November, a fellow with the charming name SaintElliot — and yes, this is a reference to killer incel Elliot Rodger — put forth this delightful proposal:
What an amazing example of “thinking outside the box” if by “box” you mean “coffin.”
A glance through SaintElliot’s posting history on Reddit — even though he’s clearly deleted a lot of things — suggests that he’s at least semi-serious about this proposal.
I have so many questions. Would this sex take place in funeral homes or morgues? If the former, would funeral homes have to set up separate viewing and sex hours to accommodate both mourners and sex-hungry incel necrophiliacs? If the latter, would morgues be open 24/7 to serve incels’ sex-with-dead-women needs? Would there be beds provided or would the incels just have to bed their dead lovers on the cold slabs?
And then there is the most important question of all: How exactly does SaintElliot know that “[t]he pussy of females can be used even 2 days after their death?”
I shudder to think.
H/T — This one is going around on Twitter now, thanks to Lyzzy for pointing it out to me; it was also highlighted on FSDT.net back in November.
Just setting the Sci-Fi references aside for the moment… let’s not overlook the tell buried within this hideous hideous post. If this whole incel thing were about personal gratification, sex toy manufacturers have become very good at mimicking anatomy, both human and fantastic (love ya, Bad Dragon! <3) You could just find a local sex shop, grab one off the shelf, or if you're shy on that kind of thing, order online.
Plumbing the depths of depravity like this is the clearest example I've ever seen that the goal of an "incel" is defilement and debasement, not pleasure. They want the woman "put in her place", despite their repeated rationalizations about all the anguish they're feeling.
It's pathetic, guys. Just get yourself a Fleshlight and leave us alone.
Retinoblastoma is very common among children, although you more often see it in infants rather than adolescents like this. His pediatrician has probably already mentioned it to his parents.
Brain Bleach time!
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First, a moment to express my disgust at his nom de ‘nym, SaintElliot. *shudder of revulsion*
When I saw this I thought for sure it would have to be a Poe. I mean, yes, necrophilia is a thing, and maybe that’s this guy’s thing. But if they can be so detached from women-as-people that it doesn’t even matter if the woman is alive or not, then what’s the big deal about using a Fleshlight or mastubating?
I mean, if life itself isn’t even a requirement, why do you “need” a woman at all?
ETA: ninja’d by @Moggie and some others. I started writing my comment about a half hour earlier and got sidetracked!
@PaganReader – thank you for the kitten & doggies. This last week about 4 nights out of 7 I have dreamt of dogs and puppies and kittens. Those are really good dreams.
@Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
If you wanna tell him, make a throwaway twitter account. You could use it to engage with others like him too.
FLESHLIGHTS ALREADY FUCKIN’ EXIST!
*goes to look at the new kittehs at IBKC instead*
Aside: I like Bad Dragon’s toys, I don’t like the way they run their shit. : / They’ve had some run-ins with shitty customer service (and will harass customers who try to bring that to light), as well as casual racism (and defended it when people said it made them uncomfortable) and misogyny (and proceeded to be shitty to a person who called them out for it).
There’s also this post from a former employee of their design studio that doesn’t make them look any better.
There’s also a fuckton of allegations of theft from quite a few designers.
I don’t buy direct from them because of this shit (I’ve bought two second hand* from a close friend instead). I’ve heard Frisky Beast is a much better alternative. There’s also this tumblr (NSFW obviously) that catalogues different sex toy selling stores if you want to look for some good alternatives and not worry about finding a store like Bad Dragon.
*Since the toys are silicone, it’s easy to disinfect them via a dishwasher/boiling water, and thus make them safe for other people to use, in case anyone was wondering.
Ooohh, the puppies and kittens! I need that there brain bleach today.
@Paradox
Oh dear! I hadn’t heard all that about them! I’m going to have to read into this some more…. I personally haven’t had any poor dealings with their customer service, but this is some rather untoward behaviour on their part.
Thanks for making me aware! 🙂
So SaintElliot doesn’t realize…that “females”…are also “humans”…and potentially organ donors…
I shouldn’t still be surprised about one of these people not realizing those things, but I guess I am.
(Also, of course, every other thing wrong with this.)
Have they not heard of masturbation?
Even in the event that he was not, in fact, entirely serious, the fact that he was comfortable sharing such a repellent idea reflects badly on him.
He needs to stop selling death sticks, go home, and think about his life.
The closest this gets to good news is that an incel forum actually got banned.
@SFHC, et al, re twitter account with eye cancer.
As of this posting, the person’s account has been suspended by twitter, so it’s too late to let him know.
That was fast.
@Jerdy Yes, they have. Some of them are against it for dumb reasons involving control issues.
@Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
There’s a time for hard decisions involving death and consequentialism, but I doubt this is it. While the actual consequences of your action could be marginal, the principle behind your decision and the cynicism you needlessly involve yourself in could be hurtfull. So, since you asked: Please do not succumb to the bitterness even if it feels good for the moment.
It seems like, in addition to the woman-violating, there’s a strong aspect where incels want to debase themselves. They’re a subculture that defines their whole identity around their own failure, after all, and they seem to enjoy obsessing over women’s hatred and rejection of them.
Could this be part of some kind of humiliation/degradation kink?
@Kimstu – that could actually be a really gross, twisted episode of Black Mirror, sort of in the vein of “The National Anthem” – someone kidnaps internet creeps and forces them to put their money where their mouths are and act out all the shit they come up with for real.
Considering rigor mortis, I’m not even sure you could have peen-in-vagina sex. Vaginal muscles are only elastic when you’re alive.
And now I hate this person for making me think about this.
It would be very dark, but could be quite brilliant. Brooker already tackled PUA’s and that was very dark too.
Holy shit.
This can’t be real. How can someone seriously think like this? It’s not possible. What is going on in your mind when fucking a dead body starts making sense to you and you can trade it with your body parts? They don’t have a necrophiliac fetish, they just want to gain access to “sexual resources” and even a dead body counts (as long as she’s hot amirite). Then they’d be happy because they got laid? They finally got to put their dick in a female body without getting rejected so they won at life and they’re finally winners or something?
I can’t believe that someone truly thinks like this lol. There are people in these places that are just “memeing”. They found a group of people with psychological weaknesses through which they can attempt to spread this fucked up mentality. They’re just happy to see their “memes” spread. That’s my theory anyway. There are people systematically promoting the insanity and they understand how ridiculous it is and it amuses them. They look at the fucked up incels just getting worse and worse and they laugh at what they’ve managed to do.
If there are people in these places are just lonely/depressed/isolated/deprived/etc and not (yet) absolute creeps like this they need to leave right the fuck now. It’s messing with their mental health big time. This is very sad. Nobody with healthy personal relationships of any kind in their life would think like this. Hell even anybody who even goes outside and watches other people interact (past high school) would think of things in such absolute terms.
Remember when incels wanted the gubmint to give em living girlfriends? Cos love? Yeah, didn’t buy it before either…
Just wondering, what happens if a MRA is in desperate need of an organ transplant, and the only compatible organs are from a feeeeemale? Would they rather die?
SFHC,
Well, it appears AltRightChris has been pemanently suspended, so.
But the Incel subreddit has led me to believe that “incel” isn’t really about sex, but about human companionship!
Ooops, ninja’d by JS; too late to delete.
Sorry.
@SFHC
Yes. It would be good to warn him he needs to go see a doctor to get an expert opinion. Him dying from cancer won’t encourage anyone to change, and you may feel differently later if you don’t tell him and find out he died.