By David Futrelle
Let’s just call this Friday Frthrowback. I know I’ve posted both of these videos before, multiple times even, but have I ever posted them together? Possibly?
Anyway, here they are again. One is a scene from a really creepy horror movie involving a bunch of men who are truly going their own way, mostly because no women want to get anywhere near them. The other is a candid video of a Men’s Rights “retreat.” Can you figure out which is which?
Try to avoid reading the titles of the videos which might sort of give the answer away.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFddoHVdPb8
I have seen similar groups of guys in Elam’s video at just about every campground I’ve ever camped at (without the nonsense that the group was spouting.)
@Gipsz Jakab
Chie is best girl.
Ellesar,
Do you have any British horror recommendations?
Besides, of course the obvious. I’m already a big Neil Marshall fan and I’ve also obviously seen Shaun of the Dead.
Out of the English speaking countries, you guys seem to lag behind a bit in quality horror output. I’ve seen other things, just never anything I’ve been impressed with. So if there’s any good movies I’ve been missing, I’d love to hear about them!
If anyone wants a good American horror rec, I just streamed Savageland last night and was very pleasantly surprised by it. It’s a mock crime documentary. A whole town on the Arizona-Mexico is brutally slaughtered and the one survivor, an undocumented immigrant is easily convicted. Then a roll of film he had shot comes into the hands of a journalist and it turns out to have been a zombie infestation. I never, ever thought a zombie movie could scare me, but only seeing them in blurry and dark still photos made them about 1000 times scarier than they are in standard zombie movies. There’s also political allegory in it. It’s as much about racism and xenophobia as it is a horror movie.
There was just something so disturbing and unsettling about it, maybe because it felt so much like a real documentary and maybe because it left so much to the imagination. I actually couldn’t get to sleep afterwards. That’s rare for me. I usually devour horror movies but only a handful had that kind of effect.
Fan of the original The Wicker Man, here. Christopher Lee FTW. Though arguably it’s a British suspense rather than an out-and-out horror.
ETA – Speaking of horrors, guess who volunteered to help bring over a dozen hospitals back after notPetya attacked?
@ vicky p
You can make a pretty strong case that it’s a musical. 🙂
Fsteak of course became canon in the Golden remake!
Apparently the comic became too popular and hiimdaisy became deluged with the kind of fan that’s constantly demanding and now she can’t look at it any more. Which is a shame, because it’s possibly one of the greatest things that came out of Persona 4, with the possible exception of Persona 4 (which was amazing).
Hope that first one isn’t too NSFW, but since you can’t really see anything, I felt okay about it personally
@ Alan
You can indeed. I always figured that was why Lee liked it – he got to sing as well as work with an interesting script.
I love the Wicker Man. “Next year it will be you! Next year only the King of the Summer Islands will do!”
The film was set in May but shot in October and November, so the dancers were not only cold but running around in a grove of artificial trees.
When Edward Woodward was in the burning wicker man, he said the worst part was the animals piddling on him.
@ vicky p & hippodameia
If one day I ever get to write a film set in 1974 I’ll definitely have someone eating a Summerisle apple and commenting about how it’s been a bumper crop that year.
But I do love that film. It’s not just my favourite movie, it’s one of my favourite things ever. I am a bit of a heretic though in that, unlike Christopher Lee, I actually prefer the ‘one day’ version. But it is a shame that means we miss his best song.
Speaking of British horror, there’s a film called ‘Kill List’. That’s the nearest I’ve ever seen anyone come to capturing the spirit of the Wicker Man. No songs in it though.
Dog Soldiers and 28 Days Later are 2 of my favourites along with Shaun, but I cannot think of any other recent good ones. Wake Wood is Irish, The Babadook is Australian, Let the Right One In (Swedish version). I watch a lot of horror, but a lot of it is quite crappy – I wouldn’t recommend! There is a WWI film – name escapes me – with Jamie Bell.
PS I grew up where Shaun was filmed – the next street to his house. When he goes to the shop I used to go to the sweetshop opposite!
@Policy of Madness
I used to be subscribed to the Armoured Skeptic back when he spent his time tearing Creationists and “10 Proofs that God is real”-vids apart with glee. He was fun, made some reasonable arguments.
Then he started making nasty remarks about SJWs, which was enough of a hint that I unsubbed. I wasn’t the only one. Then he started in on some really nasty misogamist crap. He has a whole new audience now. A lot of his original subs are gone.
And a youtuber who used to be a friend is now gleefully tearing his vids apart.
At first Dyer had promise. He was in a few films there were reasonable, and he was good in them. But he seemed to go on a downward trajectory quite quickly. He has at least 6 0%s on RT!
He better stick with EastEnders from now on til he dies.
WWTH: For British horror, you can’t go wrong with a lot of the Hammer Dracula movies with Christopher Lee and Peter Cushing. If you want something campy, I can suggest Lair of the White Worm staring a very young Hugh Grant.
Wake Wood was a good movie. Another Irish movie I liked a lot was Citadel.
Besides The Babadook, my favorite Aussie horror movie is Lake Mungo. You could argue that it’s not a horror, but I’ve seen it several times and I always feel unsettled every time I see it. So it counts for me.
@WWTH:
Based on your description of Savageland, I now totally want to see it.
@Otrame
He’s right about C16 and Jordan Peterson’s ridiculous extrapolations. University lawyers tend to be overly broad in terms of what they think “might be illegal.” The Ontario Human Rights Commission explicitly says it’s unsettled whether someone can be made to use (in education, employment, or public accommodations) uncommon gender neutral or non-binary pronouns like ze/zer/zem.
In Canada, people only end up prosecuted for criminal harassment or promoting hatred against an identifiable group in the most extreme cases. R. v. Keegstra involved a high school teacher and mayor of the town who taught students Nazi propaganda. Other cases (I believe) involved stuff like stalking, someone making defamatory harassing statements that (s)he knows are false, or revenge porn.
@History Nerd
You need to watch the video I linked. Logicked goes over the entire situation, in detail. And yes, there is some concern, but that concern is being overblown by people who, when it comes down to it, don’t want to call people what the people in question want to be called. Mostly out of a desire to bully.
Got a nickname you HATE? Ever asked someone not to call you that, only to have said person insist on calling you that? Annoying? What about if someone insisted on calling you she if you consider yourself a boy. Or he if you consider yourself a girl. Not funny. More than annoying. It is a complete rejection of who you say you are.
But where to draw the line between free speech (and I am an advocate of the American version thereof) and harassment? Good question, not easily worked out.
Alan Robertshaw – my favorite memory of the real “Wicker Man” is this. I saw it in a theater in the early ’80s with a college friend. At the end, as the islanders are singing the Cuccu song, I started singing along under my breath.
College friend heard, was unfamiliar with the song. He told me later, “I thought, how does he know this song? Wait – his family is *from* Scotland. Ohmygod, it’s *true*.” And for just a second he was utterly terrified.
While I have your attention, in your opinion is it disrespectful of me to refer to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II as ‘the hardest working woman in show business’?
I agree it’s bad to be an inconsiderate asshole and deliberately misgender people. Peterson blows the issue WAY out of proportion, so I’m guessing his point is to prove that the Trudeau government is run by evil fascists or something while showing everyone he’s a total dick. It’s unlikely accidentally failing to use something like ze/zer/zem would cost him a tenured position and even less likely he’d be prosecuted for criminal harassment.
There’s a concern in the highly unlikely worst case scenario that someone is jailed for accidentally not using something like “ze” when ze is totally unaware of “ze.”
I tend to prefer American-style free speech also. It’s better if the speech is available so that it can be exposed and mocked. Lots of people think the First Amendment is compatible with stalking and harassment laws. but it’s thorny.
Re the Logicked video:
I used to like Armoured Skeptic too. His was the first atheist channel I watched, soon after becoming atheist. Then he made that video about Steve Shives. Thenceforth I steered clear of his videos on social justice, but still watched his other videos. Then he revealed his support for the Twitterer-in-Chief, and I was done with him.
As for Logicked, I watched his series on creationists (Kent Hovind, John Morris Pendleton, Carl Baugh), and enjoyed them too. Now he’s too anti-feminist for my taste. I also disagree with him on hate-speech laws (I think the U.S. would do well to pass one). Also, I’m curious why he and people like him are eager to preserve their “freedom to misgender”. Finally, I can’t help but think that their ranting about things like “ze” are strawmen.
It is a strawman. The hypothetical “ze” case Peterson describes is highly unlikely.
It’s funny how Armoured Skeptic beeps out his swears, like so he can get more views from LifeSiteNews readers.
I’m just getting around to watching Hbomb’s video, and I think the most relevant quote for how Armored “Skeptic” makes me feel is from the man himself: “He made me angry. He made me very, very angry.”
I really shouldn’t be surprised by anything from the alt-right anymore, but somehow their intense arrogance, ignorance, and pretentiousness always manages to eclipse that of the last person I heard/read.
@ Victorious Parasol: I’ve never actually seen The Wicker Man, but someone once gave me a bootleg CD of the soundtrack, which included large chunks of the dialogue. Based on that, my impression is that the movie depended heavily on “most of the people watching this know absolutely nothing about paganism” for its scare factor.
I do, however, have a “Summerisle May Day Festival 1974” T-shirt. 🙂
@ History Nerd: When you start looking at free speech vs. hate speech, you get into the tension between your argument on the one side and the Overton Window on the other. Yes, in theory it’s better to have the hate out in the open where everyone can see it. OTOH, if that hate speech is not followed up by real-life consequences with big sharp teeth, the takeaway for both sides becomes “This is acceptable.” As indeed we are seeing right now in America.