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Can you tell this scene from a horror movie from a video of Men’s Rights Activists?

Nightmare fuel

By David Futrelle

Let’s just call this Friday Frthrowback. I know I’ve posted both of these videos before, multiple times even, but have I ever posted them together? Possibly?

Anyway, here they are again. One is a scene from a really creepy horror movie involving a bunch of men who are truly going their own way, mostly because no women want to get anywhere near them. The other is a candid video of a Men’s Rights “retreat.” Can you figure out which is which?

Try to avoid reading the titles of the videos which might sort of give the answer away.

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PeeVee the (Perpetually Ignored, Invisible but Noice) Sarcastic
PeeVee the (Perpetually Ignored, Invisible but Noice) Sarcastic
3 years ago

I remain unimpressed.

MrsObedMarsh
MrsObedMarsh
3 years ago

Oh, no! However will Jessica Valenti go on?

Makroth - wild west firecracker window-smashing soap-averse unionized cowboy Jacobin from Hell
Makroth - wild west firecracker window-smashing soap-averse unionized cowboy Jacobin from Hell
3 years ago

I’ve already seen the first one. But now i’m curious to see Calvaire. All i could think of was “WTF”.

Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
3 years ago

Elam’s shindig is a horror cult classic tho. Best watched when about as drunk as he is, with something punchable conveniently placed nearby like you normally would pop-corn. No, that’s not enough to make it bearable.

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

The most MRA horror movie is Doghouse
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1023500/?ref_=nv_sr_1

British Shaun of the Dead ripoff in which a group of guy friends leave town for a weekend getaway to escape their evil harpy significant others. The women aren’t actually unreasonable nags as the men are the ones behaving like assholes, but that’s how they’re presented. They go to a small town in the woods to find that the town has been infected with a virus that turns women into man hating zombies that have killed the town’s men and now have their sights set on the tourists.

Oh, and the town is called Moodley. Get it?

If it was satirizing the way misogynistic men view women, it could have possibly worked, but if it is a satire, it doesn’t come across that way. I’m about 90% sure it’s actual misogyny and not failed satire.

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

OMG. I started reading the reviews for Doghouse and it got a positive review that the user titled MGTOW: The Movie. I should have known the miggy toes would find it and approve.

Ms Vanilla Rose
3 years ago

How can I let those creeps know that I don’t want to suck their ****s without their pretending that they’re the ones who turned me down?

History Nerd
History Nerd
3 years ago

Wow! I wonder how feminists are going to respond to those amazing arguments!

(This post is sarcasm)

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
3 years ago

hbomberguy uploaded a new vid taking apart the arguments of some youtube guy that – among other things – gender expression is a fad and fashion and not a real thing.

Tosca, Chaos made Flesh, Servant of the Purring Jew
Tosca, Chaos made Flesh, Servant of the Purring Jew
3 years ago

I didn’t watch the video, but looking at the start image…

I see a group of men who aren’t ugly, but aren’t that physically impressive either. There are guts. There are receding hairlines and unkempt facial hair. There are scrawny bodies and questionable fashion choices. Not to mention men well past their 20s. But still, I’d give them all a solid 4-6 on the Physical Hotness scale. They look exactly like plenty of men who are in healthy, satisfying relationships with women.

And yet I am willing to bet real money that every single one of them (a) thinks that women won’t fuck him because he’s not hot enough, and (b) owns a “No Fat Chicks” tshirt. Ugh.

History Nerd
History Nerd
3 years ago

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jN0REjUCGlE

I guess I need to make up for that by watching Dave Rubin self-righteously lecture me about freedom of speech and the importance of a speaker’s “intent.”

Z&T
Z&T
3 years ago

Was just thinking of the latest ‘white genocide’ thread, as well as about something my usual drinking buddy was just telling me about…

Why did I not know about this? I watch, if anything, too much news. But it seems that now Chicago now has giant flying black* people**

*might be grey, rather than black. Conversely, might be blacker than black.

**might not be a person. A new creature, from the beyond.

The most common name I’m seeing is – The Mothman.

o_0

If you search “Chicago Mothman” there is plenty of info.

One example:
http://www.hauntedsoul.net/mothman-chicago/

How do I not know about this? Why don’t they have this on the news? (And there’s a Michigan Triangle? ) Why do I not know about this??? To hell with all this political garbage, we need to know about the Mothman!

Enough of (drawing type) pix to be seen, some look like a kind of owl guy too.

If I come upon one – I’m going to try converse. Put yourself in this creature’s position – everyone runs in fear? How would you feel? 🙁
They might just want a friend. Or bum a smoke or something.
We will invite it in to have a beer.

LOOK HERE! Manospherians! The Mothman is doing better than you are!

Bina
3 years ago

Dear Paulie & Co.:

Women invented beer, and agriculture too (in order to have enough grains to brew with). Please enjoy responsibly.

And by “responsibly”, we mean don’t project any of your gross fantasies about violating feminists when you’ve had a whiff of the bartender’s apron.

Sincerely,

Women.

Venice
Venice
3 years ago

i’ll admit i read the titles but
there’s no way a room full of the biggest loudmouths on the internet would be that quiet

Horrorfan510
Horrorfan510
3 years ago

Oh god, Doghouse! I watched it with a bud who was really excited because he thought it was supposed to be a joke. If it was, i didn’t get it, it wasn’t funny, or both. Still had a better view of women than Las Vegas Bloodbath, sadly.

Gipsz Jakab
Gipsz Jakab
3 years ago

Re: Friday Frthrowback

“Do you know any other words that start with F?”

“Fsteak.”

“Excellent.”

Helix_luco
Helix_luco
3 years ago

I wonder how much of these guys’ worldview descends from them considering fat women and ugly women to be invisible? Like, to the point that they seem to forget that women who aren’t stunning exist? Then they get turned down by a few potential fashion models and assume they were rejected by every last woman on Earth.

I mean, I’m assuming they act like fat women are invisible, as I’ve heard women describe experiences like that.

DES
DES
3 years ago

I would pay good money to see the people from the first video reenact the second unironically.

Ellesar
Ellesar
3 years ago

most MRA horror movie is Doghouse

AND has Danny Dyer in it – London’s most mockable Cockney. I watch LOADS of horror, and like to see British films as much as possible, so the fact this has passed me by completely (I have never even heard of it) is testament to its failings.

Ellesar
Ellesar
3 years ago

I am willing to bet real money that every single one of them (a) thinks that women won’t fuck him because he’s not hot enough

I briefly went on sluthate ages ago to see what the menz were moaning about, and one thing they do when not savaging girls/ women is rate each other. And some of them ARE men, not boys! There was a photo of a man – short and bald, not fat, not attractive, but perfectly average. He called himself ‘genetic trash’! He seemed completely sincere. I see men like him with women every single bloody day. Maybe to him only 20yo tall thin pretty white women count.

And it is obvious to everyone that Eliot Rodger was physically attractive, AND young and rich. And yet they keep on going on about how it is the way they look that is key to the hot babes.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
3 years ago

@ ellesar

London’s most mockable Cockney.

You spelled ‘punchable’ wrong.

Actually he’s grown on me a bit. He’s in a film called ‘The Business’. Seemingly typical gangster flick but with a fantastic soundtrack. But then a mate told me:”You do realise that film is a gay love story.”

“Eh? What you on about?”

*Rewatches*

“Ohhhhh.”

Carnation
Carnation
3 years ago

A still of the Elam & Co video looks eerily like a shot from One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest.

And not in a good way.

epitome of incomprehensibility

Hmm… the second video has an element of humour, and the first one has NONE. Except for the Douglas Adams reference*, and that was just funny because of how weird and misplaced it was.

*In The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy, dolphins, who are smarter than humans, mysteriously leave Earth before aliens blow the planet up. The dolphins leave a message before going, which translates to “So long and thanks for all the fish”.

PeeVee the (Perpetually Ignored, Invisible but Noice) Sarcastic
PeeVee the (Perpetually Ignored, Invisible but Noice) Sarcastic
3 years ago

I have seen similar groups of guys in Elam’s video at just about every campground I’ve ever camped at (without the nonsense that the group was spouting.)

dslucia
dslucia
3 years ago

@Gipsz Jakab

Chie is best girl.

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

Ellesar,

Do you have any British horror recommendations?

Besides, of course the obvious. I’m already a big Neil Marshall fan and I’ve also obviously seen Shaun of the Dead.

Out of the English speaking countries, you guys seem to lag behind a bit in quality horror output. I’ve seen other things, just never anything I’ve been impressed with. So if there’s any good movies I’ve been missing, I’d love to hear about them!

If anyone wants a good American horror rec, I just streamed Savageland last night and was very pleasantly surprised by it. It’s a mock crime documentary. A whole town on the Arizona-Mexico is brutally slaughtered and the one survivor, an undocumented immigrant is easily convicted. Then a roll of film he had shot comes into the hands of a journalist and it turns out to have been a zombie infestation. I never, ever thought a zombie movie could scare me, but only seeing them in blurry and dark still photos made them about 1000 times scarier than they are in standard zombie movies. There’s also political allegory in it. It’s as much about racism and xenophobia as it is a horror movie.

There was just something so disturbing and unsettling about it, maybe because it felt so much like a real documentary and maybe because it left so much to the imagination. I actually couldn’t get to sleep afterwards. That’s rare for me. I usually devour horror movies but only a handful had that kind of effect.

Victorious Parasol
Victorious Parasol
3 years ago

Fan of the original The Wicker Man, here. Christopher Lee FTW. Though arguably it’s a British suspense rather than an out-and-out horror.

ETA – Speaking of horrors, guess who volunteered to help bring over a dozen hospitals back after notPetya attacked?

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
3 years ago

@ vicky p

Though arguably it’s a British suspense rather than an out-and-out horror.

You can make a pretty strong case that it’s a musical. 🙂

AngryWarthogBreath
AngryWarthogBreath
3 years ago

Fsteak of course became canon in the Golden remake!

Apparently the comic became too popular and hiimdaisy became deluged with the kind of fan that’s constantly demanding and now she can’t look at it any more. Which is a shame, because it’s possibly one of the greatest things that came out of Persona 4, with the possible exception of Persona 4 (which was amazing).

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

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Hope that first one isn’t too NSFW, but since you can’t really see anything, I felt okay about it personally

Victorious Parasol
Victorious Parasol
3 years ago

@ Alan

You can indeed. I always figured that was why Lee liked it – he got to sing as well as work with an interesting script.

Hippodameia
Hippodameia
3 years ago

I love the Wicker Man. “Next year it will be you! Next year only the King of the Summer Islands will do!”

The film was set in May but shot in October and November, so the dancers were not only cold but running around in a grove of artificial trees.

Victorious Parasol
Victorious Parasol
3 years ago

When Edward Woodward was in the burning wicker man, he said the worst part was the animals piddling on him.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
3 years ago

@ vicky p & hippodameia

If one day I ever get to write a film set in 1974 I’ll definitely have someone eating a Summerisle apple and commenting about how it’s been a bumper crop that year.

But I do love that film. It’s not just my favourite movie, it’s one of my favourite things ever. I am a bit of a heretic though in that, unlike Christopher Lee, I actually prefer the ‘one day’ version. But it is a shame that means we miss his best song.

Speaking of British horror, there’s a film called ‘Kill List’. That’s the nearest I’ve ever seen anyone come to capturing the spirit of the Wicker Man. No songs in it though.

Ellesar
Ellesar
3 years ago

Do you have any British horror recommendations?

Dog Soldiers and 28 Days Later are 2 of my favourites along with Shaun, but I cannot think of any other recent good ones. Wake Wood is Irish, The Babadook is Australian, Let the Right One In (Swedish version). I watch a lot of horror, but a lot of it is quite crappy – I wouldn’t recommend! There is a WWI film – name escapes me – with Jamie Bell.

PS I grew up where Shaun was filmed – the next street to his house. When he goes to the shop I used to go to the sweetshop opposite!

Otrame
Otrame
3 years ago

@Policy of Madness

I used to be subscribed to the Armoured Skeptic back when he spent his time tearing Creationists and “10 Proofs that God is real”-vids apart with glee. He was fun, made some reasonable arguments.

Then he started making nasty remarks about SJWs, which was enough of a hint that I unsubbed. I wasn’t the only one. Then he started in on some really nasty misogamist crap. He has a whole new audience now. A lot of his original subs are gone.

And a youtuber who used to be a friend is now gleefully tearing his vids apart.

Ellesar
Ellesar
3 years ago

You spelled ‘punchable’ wrong

At first Dyer had promise. He was in a few films there were reasonable, and he was good in them. But he seemed to go on a downward trajectory quite quickly. He has at least 6 0%s on RT!

He better stick with EastEnders from now on til he dies.

Horrorfan510
Horrorfan510
3 years ago

WWTH: For British horror, you can’t go wrong with a lot of the Hammer Dracula movies with Christopher Lee and Peter Cushing. If you want something campy, I can suggest Lair of the White Worm staring a very young Hugh Grant.

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

Wake Wood was a good movie. Another Irish movie I liked a lot was Citadel.

Besides The Babadook, my favorite Aussie horror movie is Lake Mungo. You could argue that it’s not a horror, but I’ve seen it several times and I always feel unsettled every time I see it. So it counts for me.

EJ (the Scheming Liberal Race-Traitor)

@WWTH:
Based on your description of Savageland, I now totally want to see it.

History Nerd
History Nerd
3 years ago

@Otrame

He’s right about C16 and Jordan Peterson’s ridiculous extrapolations. University lawyers tend to be overly broad in terms of what they think “might be illegal.” The Ontario Human Rights Commission explicitly says it’s unsettled whether someone can be made to use (in education, employment, or public accommodations) uncommon gender neutral or non-binary pronouns like ze/zer/zem.

In Canada, people only end up prosecuted for criminal harassment or promoting hatred against an identifiable group in the most extreme cases. R. v. Keegstra involved a high school teacher and mayor of the town who taught students Nazi propaganda. Other cases (I believe) involved stuff like stalking, someone making defamatory harassing statements that (s)he knows are false, or revenge porn.

Otrame
Otrame
3 years ago

@History Nerd

You need to watch the video I linked. Logicked goes over the entire situation, in detail. And yes, there is some concern, but that concern is being overblown by people who, when it comes down to it, don’t want to call people what the people in question want to be called. Mostly out of a desire to bully.

Got a nickname you HATE? Ever asked someone not to call you that, only to have said person insist on calling you that? Annoying? What about if someone insisted on calling you she if you consider yourself a boy. Or he if you consider yourself a girl. Not funny. More than annoying. It is a complete rejection of who you say you are.

But where to draw the line between free speech (and I am an advocate of the American version thereof) and harassment? Good question, not easily worked out.

Robert Walker-Smith
Robert Walker-Smith
3 years ago

Alan Robertshaw – my favorite memory of the real “Wicker Man” is this. I saw it in a theater in the early ’80s with a college friend. At the end, as the islanders are singing the Cuccu song, I started singing along under my breath.
College friend heard, was unfamiliar with the song. He told me later, “I thought, how does he know this song? Wait – his family is *from* Scotland. Ohmygod, it’s *true*.” And for just a second he was utterly terrified.

While I have your attention, in your opinion is it disrespectful of me to refer to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II as ‘the hardest working woman in show business’?

History Nerd
History Nerd
3 years ago

I agree it’s bad to be an inconsiderate asshole and deliberately misgender people. Peterson blows the issue WAY out of proportion, so I’m guessing his point is to prove that the Trudeau government is run by evil fascists or something while showing everyone he’s a total dick. It’s unlikely accidentally failing to use something like ze/zer/zem would cost him a tenured position and even less likely he’d be prosecuted for criminal harassment.

There’s a concern in the highly unlikely worst case scenario that someone is jailed for accidentally not using something like “ze” when ze is totally unaware of “ze.”

I tend to prefer American-style free speech also. It’s better if the speech is available so that it can be exposed and mocked. Lots of people think the First Amendment is compatible with stalking and harassment laws. but it’s thorny.

Laugher at Bigots, Low-T Inbetweener Weener

Re the Logicked video:

I used to like Armoured Skeptic too. His was the first atheist channel I watched, soon after becoming atheist. Then he made that video about Steve Shives. Thenceforth I steered clear of his videos on social justice, but still watched his other videos. Then he revealed his support for the Twitterer-in-Chief, and I was done with him.

As for Logicked, I watched his series on creationists (Kent Hovind, John Morris Pendleton, Carl Baugh), and enjoyed them too. Now he’s too anti-feminist for my taste. I also disagree with him on hate-speech laws (I think the U.S. would do well to pass one). Also, I’m curious why he and people like him are eager to preserve their “freedom to misgender”. Finally, I can’t help but think that their ranting about things like “ze” are strawmen.

History Nerd
History Nerd
3 years ago

It is a strawman. The hypothetical “ze” case Peterson describes is highly unlikely.

It’s funny how Armoured Skeptic beeps out his swears, like so he can get more views from LifeSiteNews readers.

dslucia
dslucia
3 years ago

I’m just getting around to watching Hbomb’s video, and I think the most relevant quote for how Armored “Skeptic” makes me feel is from the man himself: “He made me angry. He made me very, very angry.”

I really shouldn’t be surprised by anything from the alt-right anymore, but somehow their intense arrogance, ignorance, and pretentiousness always manages to eclipse that of the last person I heard/read.

Sister Bat'leth of Rational Discussion
Sister Bat'leth of Rational Discussion
3 years ago

@ Victorious Parasol: I’ve never actually seen The Wicker Man, but someone once gave me a bootleg CD of the soundtrack, which included large chunks of the dialogue. Based on that, my impression is that the movie depended heavily on “most of the people watching this know absolutely nothing about paganism” for its scare factor.

I do, however, have a “Summerisle May Day Festival 1974” T-shirt. 🙂

@ History Nerd: When you start looking at free speech vs. hate speech, you get into the tension between your argument on the one side and the Overton Window on the other. Yes, in theory it’s better to have the hate out in the open where everyone can see it. OTOH, if that hate speech is not followed up by real-life consequences with big sharp teeth, the takeaway for both sides becomes “This is acceptable.” As indeed we are seeing right now in America.