By David Futrelle
This is appalling, but unfortunately not even slightly surprising: An “involuntarily celibate” Redditor has openly admitted to raping an unconscious woman.
Naturally, he is completely unapologetic about it, declaring that “[r]eproduction is objectively the point of living. You can’t expect someone to let such an opportunity to slide.”
Knajjd11, a regular poster in the Incels subreddit, made the comments in a discussion in r/Drama, a subreddit devoted to, well, Reddit drama. He has since removed the comments in question but not before someone archived them here.
Here’s a screenshot of the relevant portion of the discussion. It starts with Knajjd11 declaring that, contrary to the insinuations of others in the thread, he has in fact “touched a woman.” And then it gets very ugly, very fast:
![knajjd11 -8 points 13 days ago I have touched one, funnily enough. I'm incel because I've never had someone want to have sex with me, but I have stuck my penis into a vagina. permalinkparent [–]knajjd11IsARapist 34 points 13 days ago I have stuck my penis into a vagina I think you mean rape, fuckface. permalinkparent [–]knajjd11 1 point 13 days ago I have already replied to these allegations in a previous comment. "I haven't overpowered anyone and it wasn't rape, either, unless you're the "omg i drank so much by my own volution but it was rape!!!" SJW types. permalinkparent [–]knajjd11IsARapist 37 points 13 days ago Also, there's a huge difference between stupid drunk sex and I-put-my-dick-inside-an-unconscious-broad sex. You are a rapist. An unpunished rapist. permalinkparent [–]knajjd11 1 point 13 days ago Have I forced someone to drink? Have I spiked someone's drink? No. Men are predators by nature and it's, quite frankly, mostly your fault if you get piss drunk and pass out. permalinkparent [–]bigblackkittie 38 points 13 days ago Men are predators by nature and it's, quite frankly, mostly your fault if you get piss drunk and pass out. what the fuck permalinkparent [–]knajjd11 1 point 13 days ago Reproduction is objectively the point of living. You can't expect someone to let such an opportunity to slide.](https://i0.wp.com/www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/knajjd11-comments-on-Catfishing-incel-gets-a-taste-of-his-own-medicine.png?ssl=1)
In a later comment (screenshotted here), he further excused his alleged actions on the grounds that the victim wasn’t a virgin, so it didn’t count.
A look at knajjd11’s user profile on Reddit reveals that he’s replaced most of his past comments with spam urging people to go to the Pizzagate forum on would-be Reddit replacement Voat. But his previous posts (which remain up at the moment) suggest that (if the pictures he’s posted are indeed of him) he’s a young man with a perfectly pleasant face (that he thinks is repulsive) and some thoroughly unpleasant opinions that he thinks are perfectly fine.
In one post he declares that incels “lose” when and if they ever end up having mutually pleasurable sex.
In another equally unpleasant post, he suggests that “having a ‘modern’ daughter” is essentially the equivalent of being cuckolded. In the post, he imagines, in sexually explicit detail, a young woman becoming “a worthless slag being pumped and dumped by Chads.” He ends with a series of questions:
[H]ow can so many of you normies be happy having a “western”, a “modern” daughter after so many years of raising and caring for her selflessly? How can you not get sick seeing her turn into a slut for public use? How can you sit still and say “this is fine” while she’s nothing more than a object for Chads to use and throw away like a ***rag? How can you accept her serial “monogamy”, watching her jump from cock to cock? It makes me sick to my stomach. Answers are welcomed.
While we don’t know for sure that knajjd11’s apparent confession of rape is for real and not just internet braggadocio, it’s not exactly hard to see how someone with beliefs like these — a volatile mix of misogyny, aggrieved sexual entitlement and bitter self-loathing — could rape a woman and think of it merely as his due, an “opportunity” to reproduce that he shouldn’t “let … slide.”
If the last few years have taught us anything about the internet it’s that we cannot separate online behavior from the real world. We can’t dismiss the vile opinions we so often see online as mere trolling, or somehow unimportant or unreal because they are posted online. Trolls more often than not end up believing the nonsense they post. And they often act upon these beliefs in the real world.
Incel ideology is horrendous enough to read online; it’s even more sickening to realize that some men are acting out these beliefs in real life. If Knajjd11’s confession is true, his incel beliefs have provided him with what he sees as a legitimate justification for real-world rape.
EDIT: Added an additional comment from Knajjd11 justifying his alleged rape.
H/T – Thanks to tracertong322 on Reddit who brought this to my attention as well as to sys34 on Reddit, who posted the screenshot that enabled me to find Knajjd11’s comments.
Moggie: I want a buddy cop movie starring those two chickens.
I like Billina the chicken from the Oz books. She defeated the gnome king with her eggs! Misandry!
Recent local TV news reports remind us we should not keep chickens as household pets, because they tend to be covered in salmonella.
The fact that we needed a news report to remind us of this is somewhat hilarious. Welcome to Central Texas.
Also, yay! The “Tax breaks for the rich” bill vote will be delayed beyond the July 4 recess. Keep calling, and hopefully it can be “removed and replaced” with an actual consensus “fix obamacare” bill.
@history nerd: why do I get the feeling that services for set aside for any other group wouldn’t be treated as sacred like those are. I’d hate to be any of those staff members though, being made to sit around all day
If there are any aliens listening, I volunteer to be abducted if you promise not to put me back on Earth.
RE: rapist chickens, Temple Grandin wrote that normally, roosters do a little dance before trying to mate with a hen; after the dance, the hen either accepts the rooster or chases him off. Selective breeding has not taken temperament into consideration, so the mating dance instinct has been bred out of them.
I love the turkey police, how he puffs up like, “Yeah, now who’s bad?” Wonder if the black rooster is the reason the turkey lacks tail feathers.
Voat’s servers were originally in Germany so US court orders supposedly wouldn’t be enforceable. But extremist content is illegal in Germany, so they moved to the US. They had to delete the /v/jailbait subverse because PayPal won’t process payments for jailbait sites.
Apparently they’re surviving on donations because advertisers don’t want to be associated with them. They’ll eventually be pressured to introduce more restrictions.
I second @AsAboveSoBelow and also recommend reading Temple Grandin’s book “Animals in Translation”, which is where I know she talks about the rooster behavior. Temple Grandin is an awesome person.
@Valentine
re: Critiquing presidents. I think you’re right about how critiquing Obama in particular was hard, because of the racism involved and the idea a critique of his policy equaled validation of racist @$$hats.
But I also think this is a major flaw in the two party system we currently have in the United States. I know we’ve had other major parties in the past, but probably not since the whigs in the 1850/1860s. Also, our democracy is set up to be competitive rather than cooperative. It sets up an “Us verses Them” mentality where party matters more than policy or individuals and critiquing your party becomes difficult. This was an issue during Hilary’s campaign too, people were told to shut up and support her, and many were later blamed for her losing (by some not all party members), never mind people who didn’t vote or were Dems voting for Trump.
Foreign Policy is almost another matter completely, and almost unifying for both parties. Many times a president having hard times with policy at home will focus on foreign policy. And the positive outpouring from the mainstream media here when Trump bombed Syria was ridiculous, almost all praise. And then limited praise again when Trump dropped that huge bomb in Afghanistan. We should have been weeping as a nation for all the lives lost in the second bombing.
So I agree with you, we are kinda horrible critiquing presidential actions of our own party at home, and presidents abroad period.
As usual, I love reading everyone’s comments, and avoid commenting myself, ’cause I’m horrible at responding to messages in thread due to work and no internet at home. But I’d been thinking about Valentine’s comments for like five hours so I commented eventually. Thanks!
On Topic Finally
Also, yes, prosecute that jerk rapist poster, toot suite. OMG so many reddit threads are literal brain poison. Reading it must be like stabbing a needle right through your eye to directly poison your brain. Aaagh.
“I have not done anything wrong because it was not a virgin, the person definitely doesn’t know about it and it was like 3 thrusts. No harm done whatsoever.”
So…the food is horrible.
And…such small portions…
Yeah. A jury could hypothetically convict him based solely on the statements. But the DA likely won’t file charges without a time and place window and corroboration.
Surely his own admission is enough to open an investigation. Find him, find his victim, build a case.
@Dr. Thang
I realize you might be doing it in response to knajjd11 calling his victim “it”, but I don’t think we should be dehumanizing anyone, even if they’re terrible people.
Five minutes ago : “Oh hey, I wonder what hilarious stuff David has dug up today.”
Now : “Yeah I’m just gonna do drugs instead.”
Tough to find his victim if the victim has almost no idea it happened. He surely wouldn’t say “it was that woman over there”.
There is no way of knowing what details are true or not – so his victim might be aware of something. When drugged rape victims come round they are often aware that there was something, but yes, for witness testimony it would be highly unreliable.
Still worth trying. Put him in a room with cops breathing down his neck – people have confessed to all sorts for less.
Voat is close to being insolvent: http://gizmodo.com/goodbye-and-good-riddance-to-voat-reddits-gross-clone-1795337099
They cut costs by using reduced fee programs for hosting and software licensing designed for start-ups. They haven’t been able to make the company profitable in the start-up period, and now it’s too expensive to run the site.
Apparently 4chan is also barely able to keep running. Christopher Poole kept it running on his own server, but the current administrators are running low on their budget to keep 4chan online. They’re also not so hot about far right stuff (during the early Gamergate stuff, the admins installed a script that replaced the substring “free” with “hot pockets” on every page).
Small correction, David. /r/Drama is run by GamerGate fanatics and KiwiFarms admins. It’s not about reddit drama, it’s just a pretense for harassing queer people, disabled people, people of color, and leftists in general on reddit.
Isn’t that true of every subreddit?
Actually /r/exredpill is well worth a read.
As is /r/relationships (soooo much gooold)
@History Nerd
Do you have anything on 4chan’s financial position of late? The latest articles I found are from October 2016. Seeing as we’re into late June 2017, the old news is kind of outdated.
@SFHC
It depends. A number of leftist subreddits banned transphobia, ableism, and criticism of identity politics. You can argue that oppression is rooted in economic issues, but you can’t attack identity-based progressive social movements even if they’re not as left-wing or anti-capitalist as you’d like.
“It’s not rape if she became unconscious of her own volition by drinking too much”
Failure to understand consciousness… It’s not a conscious choice in the case of alcohol or drugs. Your brain just switches off, whether or not you wanted it to. Ever tried to beat the general anesthetic they start before surgery? Good luck winning. I’ve tried a few times. 100, 99, 98… blank, wake up in recovery room 97…
@Ooglyboggles
4chan is probably running on Bitcoin donations and probably has a cap on bandwidth usage. Nishimura said in October that he might need to shut it down without notice at some point if he can’t meet operating costs.
History Nerd:
That will be a day to celebrate.
Okay. Human babies are very difficult to raise, needing support from helpers–aunties, uncles, siblings, cousins, grandparents, friends of all ages and genders, and yes, even fathers–to get the child from newborn to fully functioning adult member of society. So a drive-by conception (yes, that’s an awful phrase, but it’s what comes to mind at the moment) with no further input (dang, my mind is dark this afternoon) is less than ideal in terms of producing the grandchildren that “reproduction is the objective point of living” implies. Further, no woman, raped while unconscious and impregnated, is going to be very happy about it. Hormonal stress during pregnancy, poor bonding with the child, all sorts of things ultimately detrimental to the health of the child (via the mother) can be expected. No, men are not “predators by nature”. However violence-prone men may be, they are connected to a community that they contribute to, and even if they don’t directly help wiht the child they do help the matrix (am I permitted that word?) within which the child matures.
Apart from all the horrors that I haven’t stated, but that others are getting to.
@History Nerd @Gipsz Jakab
Hmm not really. I checked 4chan on SimilarWeb and the website has 100+ million monthly views. That’s a lot. If the website shuts down one day the people using it will just move to another one. The problem with 4chan isn’t the website itself but the toxic people using it. They won’t dissolve into nothingness.