By David Futrelle
This is appalling, but unfortunately not even slightly surprising: An “involuntarily celibate” Redditor has openly admitted to raping an unconscious woman.
Naturally, he is completely unapologetic about it, declaring that “[r]eproduction is objectively the point of living. You can’t expect someone to let such an opportunity to slide.”
Knajjd11, a regular poster in the Incels subreddit, made the comments in a discussion in r/Drama, a subreddit devoted to, well, Reddit drama. He has since removed the comments in question but not before someone archived them here.
Here’s a screenshot of the relevant portion of the discussion. It starts with Knajjd11 declaring that, contrary to the insinuations of others in the thread, he has in fact “touched a woman.” And then it gets very ugly, very fast:
![knajjd11 -8 points 13 days ago I have touched one, funnily enough. I'm incel because I've never had someone want to have sex with me, but I have stuck my penis into a vagina. permalinkparent [–]knajjd11IsARapist 34 points 13 days ago I have stuck my penis into a vagina I think you mean rape, fuckface. permalinkparent [–]knajjd11 1 point 13 days ago I have already replied to these allegations in a previous comment. "I haven't overpowered anyone and it wasn't rape, either, unless you're the "omg i drank so much by my own volution but it was rape!!!" SJW types. permalinkparent [–]knajjd11IsARapist 37 points 13 days ago Also, there's a huge difference between stupid drunk sex and I-put-my-dick-inside-an-unconscious-broad sex. You are a rapist. An unpunished rapist. permalinkparent [–]knajjd11 1 point 13 days ago Have I forced someone to drink? Have I spiked someone's drink? No. Men are predators by nature and it's, quite frankly, mostly your fault if you get piss drunk and pass out. permalinkparent [–]bigblackkittie 38 points 13 days ago Men are predators by nature and it's, quite frankly, mostly your fault if you get piss drunk and pass out. what the fuck permalinkparent [–]knajjd11 1 point 13 days ago Reproduction is objectively the point of living. You can't expect someone to let such an opportunity to slide.](https://i0.wp.com/www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/knajjd11-comments-on-Catfishing-incel-gets-a-taste-of-his-own-medicine.png?ssl=1)
In a later comment (screenshotted here), he further excused his alleged actions on the grounds that the victim wasn’t a virgin, so it didn’t count.
A look at knajjd11’s user profile on Reddit reveals that he’s replaced most of his past comments with spam urging people to go to the Pizzagate forum on would-be Reddit replacement Voat. But his previous posts (which remain up at the moment) suggest that (if the pictures he’s posted are indeed of him) he’s a young man with a perfectly pleasant face (that he thinks is repulsive) and some thoroughly unpleasant opinions that he thinks are perfectly fine.
In one post he declares that incels “lose” when and if they ever end up having mutually pleasurable sex.
In another equally unpleasant post, he suggests that “having a ‘modern’ daughter” is essentially the equivalent of being cuckolded. In the post, he imagines, in sexually explicit detail, a young woman becoming “a worthless slag being pumped and dumped by Chads.” He ends with a series of questions:
[H]ow can so many of you normies be happy having a “western”, a “modern” daughter after so many years of raising and caring for her selflessly? How can you not get sick seeing her turn into a slut for public use? How can you sit still and say “this is fine” while she’s nothing more than a object for Chads to use and throw away like a ***rag? How can you accept her serial “monogamy”, watching her jump from cock to cock? It makes me sick to my stomach. Answers are welcomed.
While we don’t know for sure that knajjd11’s apparent confession of rape is for real and not just internet braggadocio, it’s not exactly hard to see how someone with beliefs like these — a volatile mix of misogyny, aggrieved sexual entitlement and bitter self-loathing — could rape a woman and think of it merely as his due, an “opportunity” to reproduce that he shouldn’t “let … slide.”
If the last few years have taught us anything about the internet it’s that we cannot separate online behavior from the real world. We can’t dismiss the vile opinions we so often see online as mere trolling, or somehow unimportant or unreal because they are posted online. Trolls more often than not end up believing the nonsense they post. And they often act upon these beliefs in the real world.
Incel ideology is horrendous enough to read online; it’s even more sickening to realize that some men are acting out these beliefs in real life. If Knajjd11’s confession is true, his incel beliefs have provided him with what he sees as a legitimate justification for real-world rape.
EDIT: Added an additional comment from Knajjd11 justifying his alleged rape.
H/T – Thanks to tracertong322 on Reddit who brought this to my attention as well as to sys34 on Reddit, who posted the screenshot that enabled me to find Knajjd11’s comments.
http://prntscr.com/fojou5
Wow.
Kid looks like he’s twelve.
Remember the discussion we had a couple of weeks ago about whether or not merely participating in an incel community is misogynistic, even if one hasn’t personally expressed hatred for women?
This here. This is why it’s misogynistic. Letting the entitled and misogynistic attitudes slide by has resulted in an actual rape. Everyone who posts there can so fuck a cactus. As should everyone at reddit who has the power to shut down incel subreddits and chooses not to.
Number of people surprised by the swastika in his username: Zero.
I’m not sure this guy is really involuntarily celibate. It doesn’t sounds like sex is the thing he’s after at all.
” ‘it’ wasn’t a virgin”. Love? the use of the word “it” to refer to a human being. I have a sinking feeling this isn’t bragging; this guy really did rape someone. He speaks about in in too much detail, and spends too much time justifying it, for it to be a made-up boast.
@Dormousing_it
There’s also the disgusting fact that instead of moderators and site staff lambasting this person, they just let him be to sweep his history under the mat.
Oh sorry, was he thinking of getting her pregnant? I’m a bit lost here. ?
Oh, my God. I am so revolted right now.
Is this what the internet has become? Is this how being “connected” to other people is supposed to be? This is what innovation has brought us?
I’m seriously considering going Luddite again. Every day brings worse and worse scum floating to the top of the pond.
I can’t. I can’t. Jesus wept.
The comment about how having a daughter = being cuckolded reminds me of this recent loveliness:
https://www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/2017/05/04/b-ponders-the-ultimate-creepy-question-is-having-daughters-the-ultimate-cuckoldry/
Are we witnessing the birth of a new meme of “common knowledge” in the manosphere?
I’m not sure I’d call that guy “pleasant-looking”…he reminds me of something: http://411mania.com/movies/from-under-a-rock-village-of-the-damned/
@Ooglyboggles
That’s true, too. Also, it’s probably par for the course for that site, so this person felt that he could post that sort of thing with impunity.
Something else I wanted to add – penetrating an unconscious person, doesn’t sound enjoyable to me. Necrophilia is what comes to my mind, frankly. I don’t think I can say what I want to say without running afoul of the comments policy. I also know enjoyment isn’t the point for a lot of these incel types.
@dormousing
That’s the scary part. A Nazi Incel raping an unconscious girl and bragging about it online while defending his actions. There’s something very fucked up about it and it’s not just the rape act. I’m feeling sick.
… as well as calling them “it”
“I only browse r/incels”
“I sometimes post to vent”
“It helps me vent my frustrations; I don’t actually believe what others type”
Fucking. Bullshit. WWTH is on it. I’m beyond tired of the excuses ignoring red flags that result in further violence against women. Incels don’t care about who they hurt. All women are not human to them. Period. And now? Now, it’s bringing their violence they fantasize some much about to real people and causing harm.
Absolute fucking disgusting.
@RosieLa
Also yes. And let’s add the fact that he’s 14 years old. A 14 y.o raping a girl. A 14 y.o being part of an “Incel” group. A 14 y.o bragging about and excusing a rape online.
That is the poison that is r/Incels – it is pure rape culture distillate.
@Aulma:
Wait, what? Most boys haven’t had sex by that age. And he’s already a confessed rapist?
@MrsObedMarsh
I’m not sure if I’m right, I’m interpreting the number 14 in his banner as his age. If 5’2″ is his height then 14 must be his age. He looks pretty young in that picture so I think it’s safe to assume that’s how old he is.
But yeah, however you put it, what he did is horrible. A 14 y.o shouldn’t even consider himself an incel, let alone rape someone.
wait, he’s four-fucking-TEEN?
that is some serious context. that is some horrendous vile mind-poison he managed to get into at a real young age to end up here.
jeezus.
I was going to post some rote ridicule about how on one hand he writes “females” off as *things* and birth worth caring about, and then on the other hand criticizes fathers for raising them in a way that, in his mind, turns them into things. but now I’m just sad.
Aw, and there’s our friend* failednormie telling him he did the right thing. So sweet.**
*Not really
**Really not really
You know, I’m really tired of this argument (or rather, this assertion, with the emphasis on ass). Predators stalk, kill, and eat prey. They do this because if they did not, they would die of starvation. It’s not about fun or pleasure or entitlement; it’s purely a matter of survival. Predators do not rape their prey, and no one has ever died of a lack of sex.
I am, by nature and nurture, an exceptionally violent person. I have been thus for as long as I can remember. I’ve also had a very high libido, again, for as long as I can remember- I was sex-obsessed before I even had the faintest idea what it was (something to do with knees, right?). But, you know what? I HAVE NEVER ONCE BELIEVED IT WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE TO STICK MY DICK IN SOMEONE WITHOUT THEIR PERMISSION.
This isn’t a difficult concept. If something as depraved, cruel, and downright vicious as me can see that doing so would be rape, and that rape is always ALWAYS wrong, then I have absolutely no patience for anyone like this rapist-redditor. I’ve been around drunk men and women, even passed out men and women, and it never once popped into my head to rape them. And even if it had, I wouldn’t do it. Why? Because IT’S FUCKING WRONG.
Sorry for shouting, but these “incel” asshats really piss me off. Hell, I’m 32 years old, male, by most societal standards a virgin, and it’s never crossed my mind that anyone owed me sex. It’s such a ridiculous concept on its face that I can’t believe anyone actually believes it. Yet there they are. Then again, he’s apparently a Nazi, so I guess I shouldn’t be surprised. Someone stupid enough to believe in that garbage is capable of absolutely anything.
My first thought was, Elliot Rodgers. Someone needs to get this kid to therapy, fast. And it may already be too late.
I’m not sure if no animals ever rape their prey– I know I’ve seen some (turkeys and some type of frog) that will practice necrophilia at least. I tend to caution people against the idea that non-human animals won’t do something horrible, because there’s always a brutal/disgusting new corner of the animal world to find out about.
I don’t want to be *that* person, but roosters will gang rape a hen to death. I’m so sorry.