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Internet Nazis bitterly divided on the Fat Wife Question

Pierce Brosnan: It’s highly unlikely he gives a crap what white supremacists think about his marriage

By David Futrelle

Over on The Daily Stormer, they’re always on the lookout for dire new threats to the white race, and regular DS contributor Michael Byron thinks he’s found one: Pierce Brosnan’s wife.

You see, the 53-year old wife of the 64-year old former James Bond star is, well, fat. And Byron seems to feel this is a terrible injustice not just to Mr. Brosnan but to the white race in general, despite the fact that 1) Mr. Brosnan and his wife seem perfectly happy together and 2) it’s likely that a lot of Daily Stormer readers are themselves fat, given that most white Americans (like most Americans in general) are technically overweight.

As Byron sees it, though, Keely Shaye Smith essentially pulled off a bait-and-switch.

This woman managed to snag a handsome, famous multi-millionaire actor when she was an unknown environmental correspondent for ABC back in the mid-1990s. …

After marrying Brosnan in 2001, there was one thing – one thing – she needed to do to remain attractive and presentable to her husband and the public: not stuff her face with Twinkies every day.

Could she do it?

No; apparently that requires too much self-discipline.

Byron, who seems perplexed that Brosnan hasn’t already divorced “Shamu,” thinks he should have put something in their pre-nup to protect himself against the terrible injustice of his wife gaining weight.

Ideally, Brosnan should have included a clause in his prenuptial agreement stating that if his wife became seven pounds heavier than her ideal weight, the marriage becomes null and void and the woman has no claim to his fortune or their children.

In fact, all White men who want to get married should do this.

It’s essentially a biological version of a stop-loss, and the prospect of getting divorced due to fatness will shame all married women into remaining human-sized.

Naturally, most of the Daily Stormer’s commenters side with Byron on the Fat Wife question, filling the comments with fat jokes and calls for WHITE SHARIA to declare fat white women illegal.

More than a few blamed Brosnan for not forcing his wife to stay slim.

“He shouldn’t have ever let her get that fat,” complained someone calling himself Hierophant14.

It is far easier for a woman to get 15 pounds off than 900 pounds. She benefits from being thin, make sure her stupid ass stays thin. “I love your hot THIN body, babe.” You always use this line while they are thin to keep them this way. It’s not rocket science.

Others questioned Brosnan’s masculinity.

“Her shoulders are wider than his, guess we know who the Alpha in the relationship is,” quipped USMCvet.

But a significant portion of the Daily Stormer commentariat felt that the fat shamers weren’t giving Smith enough credit for being, you know, white. And a producer of white babies.

“She’s white, had white kids,”  noted someone called myself.

Yeah she’s a fat whale now, but if he’s fine with it, i don’t really care. He could be married to a n*gger, a jew, having no children and having a porn star life with drugs and hookers, but that doesn’t seem to be the case. Imo best case scenario is having a good looking white wife and children, second best is having a not so good looking wife and children. Life isn’t perfect so there’s that.

Zaros similarly gave Brosnan points for not divorcing his wife.

Good on him. A n*gger would walk out in his wife and kids. An honourable white man would never. We all go on about fatherless children and the problems this causes, at least he is doing his job as a father and husband. He obviously needs some help with the white sharia aspect of things and she needs to lay off the sausage rolls

FordHenry appealed to white pride:

LOVE brosnan

Man loves his chubby wife and is faithful.

Same deal man goes bald and she sticks by him

This is how WHITE PEOPLE ACT

Someone called Mencken (presumably not the long-dead American gadfly journalist) warned younger white supremacists that they might make a rude discovery once their own hypothetical wives get a little older.

You’ll cowards are in for a big surprise, no pun intended. Because after your [National Socialist] dream girl becomes your wife and churns out your four or five children, she’s going to find her shape redefined, and you’re going to find her pussy will be like the top of a rubber boot.

Reltihlieh was philosophical about it all.

I like the fact that they are happily married. Feminism and Jewish brainwashing have resulted in countless failed marriages and broken families. Some “couples” file for divorce within a month of two of the nuptials. …

That said, yes, women should look after their weight unless there is some medical condition or something which caused them to become so huge after a certain age.

As Reltihlieh sees it, married white dudes have a duty as well — to have sex as often as possible with their wives before they get old and (probably) fat.

And with that said, men who get married should endeavor to get the maximum sexual mileage out of their wives’ young bodies so that when she does in fact become fat (for whatever reason), he can reminisce and derive quiet satisfaction from having got the most sexual mileage out of her body when it was in its prime!

So on one side, we’ve got a group of mostly-older white supremacists who combine their virulent racism with a certain old-fashioned paternalism towards women of their own race; on the other, a younger group, who came of age on 4chan and in GamerGate rather than Stormfront, who seem to hate white women nearly as much as they hate those of other races and religions.

In whatever battle ultimately ensues between these two groups, I can only hope that everyone loses.

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Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
3 years ago

@Ellesar

Hah! Nazi’s – who the hell are they going to marry and have kids with?

Someone they capture.

Valentine
Valentine
3 years ago

, “At least I don’t plaster on the makeup like a trollop, you cunt.” McCain’s excuse was that it had been a long day.

No person with honour would ever say this to their wife even if that day felt like 1000 years. And anyway, so he is the senetor? Long fucking day? No campaign trail as long as the days which everyone else is living and they still manage to love their families…you think men in syrii calling their wife ‘c*nt’ after drone strike? Or you think they hold eachother close and thank that they simply alive?

Gijoel
Gijoel
3 years ago

@Kat There’s a story I heard about Ethel Merman and Ernst Borgnine. Don’t know if it’s true or not but it makes a great tale. Ethel had spent the day filming and came back bragging about the director’s praises.

“He said I had perfect poise.” Merman said, “All he could do was talk about how perfect I was.”

“Did he talk about your old c**t?” Borgnine said.

“No, you didn’t come up at all.”

Hope this doesn’t offend.

Mish of the Catlady Ascendancy
Mish of the Catlady Ascendancy
3 years ago

This is pretty much OT, but the admins on my Discworld FB group just booted someone for being transphobic, and posted this (below). It has filled me with warm inner glows. This is an international group of over 12,000 people, btw.

Just to make this very clear – we are not only tolerant of but very protective of LGBTQ rights. We support ALL of our members equally. In here, you can be who you want to be.
If you have a discriminatory opinion which you hold strongly, you are entitled to express it on your own page. NOT HERE.
Much as you have the right to an opinion and may wish to fiddle with it in public somewhat like dandruff, other people have the same right not to hear your opinion if it is against our core values.
When we ask you several times not to express an opinion which is clearly denigrating trans people, this is NOT bullying. It is asking you to put the wellbeing of the group members above your desire to express your opinion.

Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
3 years ago

I reread the post and noticed one insignificant detail that nonetheless depressed me to no end. One of these guys posts under the name “Zaros” and I’m pretty sure I know exactly what it references. I’m actually playing the game in question right now – I have, on and off, for the last 12 years or so, and got back to it after another long hiatus just two weeks ago. It was a huge part of my teenage years and one of the main reasons I learned English (it compensated very well for those awful language classes in school that taught me almost literally nothing).

I shouldn’t be surprised, and to be fair I’m not. But I kinda hate the daily reminders that nowhere is safe.

Pie
Pie
3 years ago

Man loves his chubby wife and is faithful.

Same deal man goes bald and she sticks by him

This is how WHITE PEOPLE ACT

That’s… kinda sad. Dude’s literally in the middle of a discussion between white people very much not acting that way, because they’re a bunch of fucking nazi assholes. That’s some serious cognitive dissonance going on right there.

“Her shoulders are wider than his, guess we know who the Alpha in the relationship is,”

…aaaaand that’s all that’s required to be alpha, folks. Broader shoulders than the person next to you. Nothing else. I’m not quite sure why it is such a big deal, given that fact.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
3 years ago

@ pie

that’s all that’s required to be alpha, folks. Broader shoulders than the person next to you

So Kenny Everett is sorted then.

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Pie
Pie
3 years ago

@kupo

Huh. I had heard there were studies into possible links between gut flora and autism, but weight now, too?

Gut flora is being blamed/praised for all sorts right now. Its the new hotness.

The link between it and weight is interesting… there’s a medical procedure that occasionally gets called a ‘poop transplant’, which basically involved giving person A some of person B’s gut flora, in order to fix various things (wikipedia link). There’s now a policy in various places to only take poop samples from non-obese donors, after some studies have shown that mice given poop transplants from obese donors gain weight, and there’s been at least one human case that suggests the same thing (linky).

Moggie
Moggie
3 years ago

What if you have broad shoulders but low wrist circumference?

Ellesar
Ellesar
3 years ago

Hah! Nazi’s – who the hell are they going to marry and have kids with?

Someone they capture.

Certainly their enthusiasm for violence against women would suggest that that would be acceptable. Once I was on the ROK site (before I realised the toll it can take on one’s mental health) and I left the comment:

‘Next on ROK, how to abduct a 14 year old and keep her chained to a radiator for breeding purposes’.

I can assure you that this response was in no way hyperbolic!

EJ (Scheming Liberal Race-Traitor)
EJ (Scheming Liberal Race-Traitor)
3 years ago

Ideally, Brosnan should have included a clause in his prenuptial agreement stating that if his wife became seven pounds heavier than her ideal weight, the marriage becomes null and void and the woman has no claim to his fortune or their children.

In fact, all White men who want to get married should do this.

This is a good idea, but goesn’t go far enough. He should also have included a clause stating that if she ages past 25, the marriage becomes null and void. As it stands, he’s just begging to be age-cucked.

Remember: if you stay married to a woman who ages past the wall, then you’re cucking yourself.

(/s, naturally.)

Ellesar
Ellesar
3 years ago

a ‘poop transplant’, which basically involved giving person A some of person B’s gut flora, in order to fix various things

This has been shown to be very effective against C Diff, which is a HORRIBLE condition that is pretty common and I was v worried about it when I was having chemo.

Drinking kefir is considered one of the best ways to increase gut bacteria – I started brewing it 3 months ago. haven’t lost any weight though!

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
3 years ago

@ ellesar

We had quite the discussion about this a while back. Funnily enough that also featured Nazis.

https://wehuntedthemammoth.com/2016/09/03/just-some-mgtows-dreaming-of-the-apocalypse-and-how-itll-make-ladies-less-stuck-up/

kupo
kupo
3 years ago

@Alan
I remember that discussion!

Lea
Lea
3 years ago

Does it seem to anyone else that none of the men sharing all their vast knowledge of wives and children actually have wives or children?

Just like puas never seem to be the guys who have women lining up to hop in their beds, these guys don’t sound like they’re speaking from experience, but from fantasy, rumour and conjecture.

Lukas Xavier
Lukas Xavier
3 years ago

There’ a lot of interesting work being done on the gut flora and its possible effects. However, it’s a big, complicated data set with tonnes of factors and it’s not at all clear what’s meaningful and what’s noise. It’s going to be a while before we get a definite handle on this.

Troubelle: Moonbeam Malcontent + Bard of the New Movement
Troubelle: Moonbeam Malcontent + Bard of the New Movement
3 years ago

@Axe

*curtsies*

@Ellesar

C. diff

Aaaaaand that’s what happened to me AFTER I took the antibiotics as a kid! I was two and don’t remember what happened, but mom and grandma said that I just sort of stared at my second birthday present (a toy piano) and cried. I was fucking miserable, according to ’em.

Also, I had some kefir a few months back while I had an ear infection and was taking antibiotics for THAT. It was store-bought, though…

Dormousing_it
Dormousing_it
3 years ago

RE: McCain. I’ve read that, as a young man, some of his peers referred to him as “McNasty”. Sounds like that’s a fitting nickname. His POW experiences in Vietnam probably didn’t improve his disposition any. Cindy should’ve commandeered that bread basket, stuffed her face until she became sick, then tossed her cookies into his lap!

Seriously, I don’t understand how someone who suffered as he did as a POW, can be so hawkish. Remember “Bomb, bomb Iran!” to the tune of the Beach Boys song, “Barbara Ann”?

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
3 years ago

I’m sorry for anyone who has had C. diff or any other similar upset in gut flora. Today there is a natural strain of yeast called Saccharomyces boulardii (S. boulardii) that can be bought as a probiotic that helps your innards to recover from antibiotic shock. It won’t restore a “skinny” flora balance if you’ve lost it, but it helps stave off C. diff and other similar destructive species. I took it when I was scheduled for surgery recently because I needed strong antibiotics both before and after. I took it both prior to taking the antibiotics and for about a month after. It was the first time I’d taken antibiotics that I didn’t have a massive revolt in my belly. It may help if you’ve got a bad gut in general. The research I saw was inconclusive on this part, but if you’re trying probiotics anyway you might want to give it a look.

I was super skinny before I took antibiotics one time for a lingering cough. I was one of those people who could eat anything and be thin. Then I took those antibiotics and I became one of those people who gets fat just breathing in air. It didn’t make sense to me until I read about the gut flora thing, and now everything makes perfect sense.

Victorious Parasol
Victorious Parasol
3 years ago

Sounds like some idjits are jealous because other people have happy marriages.

I’ve lost over 50 pounds since being in the ICU last year, but not through any great effort on my part. (Not a brag – I find it rather boggling, tbh.) I’d like to exercise as much as I did before the ICU stay, but the stupid post-stroke fatigue gets in the way.

Ah, well. I’m going to make some lovely curry chicken for lunch in a bit, served with naan, and the internet nazis are NOT allowed to have any at all.

epitome of incomprehensibility

They make me so angry – both the people in the OP and John McCain. What business is it of theirs what other people weigh, or how much bread they eat?

But this gave me a chuckle:

After marrying Brosnan in 2001, there was one thing – one thing – she needed to do to remain attractive and presentable to her husband and the public: not stuff her face with Twinkies every day.

First, the writer’s not using the “one thing” meme logically AT ALL, second, I DOUBT he believes that a woman needs to do only one thing to be attractive, and third, I doubt Smith was eating Twinkies, specifically Twinkies, every day. Why Twinkies? Why the specificity?? Why can’t she be eating KFC, or McDonalds, or [insert choice of stereotypically unhealthy food brand or item here]???

@kupo – ugh, yes, stomach/abdominal pain is annoying. It’s become a problem for me, off and on, since I was 24. Usually not so bad, but now and then I get awful cramps for seemingly no reason.

…and today I should go to the clinic to follow up with the doctor I saw before. She won’t be there again for two more weeks. But it’s a holiday, Fête nationale. (Grumble, grumble. Why am I grumbling? At least I’m not the one working today. And the doctor deserves a vacation – working at a clinic seems much more hectic than having a private practice.)

sunnysombrera
sunnysombrera
3 years ago

One of the healthiest periods of my life was when I was taking some strong probiotic tablets. I’ve bought some more and am trying to take them regularly but I sometimes forget. Only a few days in so far so too early to give feedback. I might go back on some ginger tablets as well since that’s what I was doing last time.

Digestive system is not my body’s biggest strength but it could be worse. Given how prevailant heart disease is, I’m grateful that mine is healthy.

sunnysombrera
sunnysombrera
3 years ago

On the topic at hand: seven pounds? Seriously? And they consider being seven pounds overweight “not a human shape”? It’s SO easy to gain half a stone. I did just that via stress eating last year (because of motherfucking 2016, need I say more). Babies, menopause, stress alone can put that kind of weight on any woman no matter how “self controlled” she is. Oh and of course, they have nothing to say about any potential weight THEY might gain as they age. They could develop a pot belly that’s half of their general body mass but would still expect their wives and all the 18 year olds they gawk at to find them irresistible.

Double standards. Yeesh.

kupo
kupo
3 years ago

@Policy of Madness
That’s the strain I’m trying out right now, after having done some research. Fermented foods don’t seem to make much of a difference and the probiotics you buy at the grocery store don’t do a damn thing (I’ve read this is because anything sold at room temp is probably not a live culture). I’ve been bad about remembering it, but took some this morning and actually feel a bit better despite last night’s wine. 🙂

My gut issues are likely related to my Hashimoto’s but could also be because I took a lot of antibiotics as a kid due to frequent ear infections. That has improved at least, as I have only had one ear infection as an adult and can’t remember the last time I took any amoxicillin.

Edit: Oh, and I just learned the best new word: broflake.

JS
JS
3 years ago

Seven pounds = slightly less than a gallon of water, so anyone can gain that much in about 30 minutes (more or less depending on stomach capacity and drinking speed).

Welcome to MWHUE (Men Who Have Unreasonable Expectations).

Troubelle: Moonbeam Malcontent + Bard of the New Movement
Troubelle: Moonbeam Malcontent + Bard of the New Movement
3 years ago

@kupo

I’ve had plenty of ear infections, alongside antibiotics for them.

Man. This might explain a lot. Too bad Mom probably won’t believe me…

Buttercup Q. Skullpants
Buttercup Q. Skullpants
3 years ago

Ideally, Brosnan should have included a clause in his prenuptial agreement stating that if his wife became seven pounds heavier than her ideal weight, the marriage becomes null and void and the woman has no claim to his fortune or their children.

In fact, all White men who want to get married should do this.

Oh hey, that’s a super idea! And how about an additional clause stating that if the husband suffers any loss of income, career stagnation, or reduction in alpha status (including but not limited to being cucked while viewing porn), the marriage is likewise voided and he has no claim to the children, the house, or any marital assets. After all, that’s the transaction they want, right? Their “alpha” assets and protection in exchange for fertile arm candy?

Better hold up your end of the bargain, Nazi fellas. While she’s jogging and eating lettuce, you’d better be getting promoted every 6-12 months.

This is how WHITE PEOPLE ACT

No, no, see, there aren’t supposed to be behavior standards for the “master race”. That’s one of the perks of being the “master race”. You get to exempt yourself from the game, make up the rules for everyone else, and declare yourself the winner, because…because… just BECAUSE, okay?

@Alan

I’ll see your Kenny Everett and raise you one Carol Burnett:
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Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
3 years ago

@kupo

The first time I took some it was because of some IBS-like symptoms and it was about 2 weeks before I felt really better. I had to set an alarm on my computer to remind me every day at the same time.

Then I discontinued after a couple of months and the symptoms have not come back. Coincidence or miracle? We report, you decide.

Then I took it again for the antibiotics and didn’t have any problems from it at all. I hope it works as well for you as it did for me.

Aulma Frendzar Dèdd
Aulma Frendzar Dèdd
3 years ago

@Valentine

Even just generating in my brain how it would be for women living with this men…fuck ((( i know there also could be some women who not confident who could become controlled by this men so it not simply lonely men complaining. Some of this people really can be married and doing this already…

Idk about the Nazis BUT in the Rok comment section I’ve seen plenty of men bragging about how they treat their wives like shit.
“Ugh, so yeah dude I pretend to care about what my wife has to say but I truly do not care”
“My wife wouldn’t put down the weight post pregnancy quickly enough so I shamed her into losing weight and cheated on her behind her back”
“I fought with my wife, beat her up and left for 3 days then when I came back she had already forgot about it so I fucked her”.

@Victorious Parasol

Ah, well. I’m going to make some lovely curry chicken for lunch in a bit, served with naan, and the internet nazis are NOT allowed to have any at all.

Yumm! Do you happen to have good curry chicken and naan bread recipes to recommend? I’d love to cook some for a change. Kinda tired of eating pasta.

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

JS,

Back in my ED days, I would weigh myself constantly and so I knew very well the water weight difference before and after my period. It’s between 5-10 extra pounds of bloat I carry during PMS times. So yeah, seven pounds is nothing.

Feral Crone
Feral Crone
3 years ago

LOL.
The best part is how they assume they are all godz gift to the world.
No one wants your sperm, guys.

Valentine
Valentine
3 years ago

Aluma,

Yes i also read some of this before- now they updated RoK and i cant load it any more because my internet too slow. But before, if i read these comments…i dont know. Sometimes i hope they just lying. But really i know some must be married. And that just so horrible Some of those quotes you written i think i read before actually. Because many of articles there are about how someone is controlling their wife and then how great they are because their whole family afraid them.

But also, this what i mean – cant only be nazis, it is many, many ‘ordinary’ men that doing this. They working together to keep abusing and share stories so they believe that it is normal.

Victorious Parasol
Victorious Parasol
3 years ago

@Aulma Frendzar Dèdd

Sadly I cannot recommend any particular naan recipes, but I can indeed recommend some curry recipes:

http://www.diabetes.org/mfa-recipes/recipes/2017-01-curry-spiced-chicken-breasts.html – I made a smaller version of this for my lunch today. It’s tasty and simple to make.

http://www.diabetes.org/mfa-recipes/recipes/2012-10-tilapia-in-coconut-curry.html – I’m planning on trying this next week.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/food/recipes/simple_chicken_curry_95336 – I’m going to be making this tonight.

Robert Walker-Smith
Robert Walker-Smith
3 years ago

I know from experience that having a spouse die and then finding love again is a life changing experience. My husband is heavier than he was when we married twenty plus years ago, and it hasn’t changed how I look at him – he’s alive and still loves me, which is all I need.

Good for Brosnan that he has someone he looks at that way. As for the pissant Nazis, may they have that feeling where you’re about to sneeze and then can’t, while they’re walking on Legos barefoot.

varalys the dark
3 years ago

Twenty five years ago I was given a course of antibiotics and a couple of days after the course finished I started vomiting every bit of food I tried to eat right back up again. I could just about keep down plain white rice and yoghurt and only small amounts. I still retched and vomited everyday for over a month. Looking back I wonder if the antibiotics killed off all my gut flora and I had to tough it out until it grew back. Anyway, on the upside I lost four stone in weight, and because I never wanted to risk vomiting ever again quit alcohol completely and have neither drank nor spewed ever since.

Aulma Frendzar Dèdd
Aulma Frendzar Dèdd
3 years ago

@Valentine

But really i know some must be married. And that just so horrible Some of those quotes you written i think i read before actually. Because many of articles there are about how someone is controlling their wife and then how great they are because their whole family afraid them.

But also, this what i mean – cant only be nazis, it is many, many ‘ordinary’ men that doing this. They working together to keep abusing and share stories so they believe that it is normal.

Yes, some of them are definitely married.
And I agree it’s not just the nazi or alt-righters, It can be anyone. They spend time on RP websites/blogs sharing their tactics and get praised for it.

@Victorious Parasol those recipes look good! I’ll definitely try them as soon as buy some more chicken. As for the naan bread don’t worry, I looked for a recipe, it seems easy to make. http://rasamalaysia.com/naan-recipe/2/

Thank you 💖

@Robert

As for the pissant Nazis, may they have that feeling where you’re about to sneeze and then can’t, while they’re walking on Legos barefoot

Wow, you’re brutal! 😀 In a good way ofc.

kupo
kupo
3 years ago

@Alan
Off-topic legal discussion for you:

This bill has passed in the NH House and Senate but has not yet been signed by the governor. It appears that it makes it so that a pregnant woman, or a person acting on her behalf, cannot be charged with 2nd degree murder, at all. See section V.(a). For reference, here’s a link to 630:1-b.

Aulma Frendzar Dèdd
Aulma Frendzar Dèdd
3 years ago

Speaking about bills…North Carolina’s at it again.

Men Legally Allowed to Finish Sex Even If Woman Revokes Consent, NC Law States

https://broadly.vice.com/en_us/article/43y99g/men-legally-allowed-to-finish-sex-even-if-woman-revokes-consent-nc-law-states

😐

Sailor LeadDragonite
Sailor LeadDragonite
3 years ago

I’m not good with non-pasta recipes (although I do have some available from my cooking class), but I have a massive bible of pasta recipes that I refer back to quite often; I’m willing to share if anyone wants!

kupo
kupo
3 years ago

@Aulma
I read some FB comments on that one and holy crap people are horrible.

Katie's Elderly Minion
Katie's Elderly Minion
3 years ago

@Mish of the Catlady Ascendency — I’m a member of that Facebook group, too! 🙂 So happy about how the mods handled that!

I had to have gut surgery more than a year ago. I’d had extensive antibiotics from the time I was a newborn until I was a teenager; was always bigger than my siblings, who were all slender. I am certain the gut surgery changed my gut biome (there was a massive die off of bacteria for a good two months afterwards). I don’t like the foods I used to like (they don’t even taste the same). And I have become slender like my siblings, after a lifetime of being different. It is weird, but I am getting used to it.

Still Fiqah
Still Fiqah
3 years ago

I think I’m doing this right.

@Ray of Rays: Yup. McCain’s a bonafide turd. The bread story wasn’t why I didn’t vote for him, buuuuut…didn’t help.

@MrsObedMarsh: Ya know, I’ve said for years that, at least with regard to hetero pairings, a LOT of resistance to IR relationships often boils down to men regarding women and children of their race as their collective racial property. It’s not even JUST White dudes. Patriarchy is so gross.

@Valentine: good on you for not participating in this awful form of misogyny! Controlling women’s behavior really is bad news for everybody.

@Ambassador Kat: WTF. McCain’s officially a bottomless pit of terrible. Also PLEASE tell me this dinner story ends with your ex wearing a plate of spaghetti.

Semi-related: I’ve been leery of the low-carb takeover since 1997. I’m all for eating well and being healthy and whatnot, but I’m Southern. That means I’m immediately suspicious of ANY narrative that casts my beloved rice as a villain. I refuse to be angrier at carbs than I am at Republicans, dammeht.

Aulma Frendzar Dèdd
Aulma Frendzar Dèdd
3 years ago

@kupo

I read some FB comments on that one and holy crap people are horrible.

Why? What did they say? I’m willing to go to sleep angry tonight.

rick
rick
3 years ago

Breaking news! White supremacists are fuckin stupid. End of story.

kupo
kupo
3 years ago

@Aulma
There was a woman who said she was a rape survivor who insisted that if you consent to sex it’s not rape to withdraw consent, and at that point it becomes “regret rape.” There were a couple of MRA types talking about Hooters and how women will just claim they withdrew consent to be awful to men, as per the usual, but this woman, who seemed genuine, went on for hundreds of messages (seriously) back and forth mostly with another woman who was also a rape survivor and no matter how this other woman tried to frame it (what if he beats you? what if it’s painful? etc. etc.) she refused to believe that it’s ever rape if you’ve consented to having sex. And then the one who was arguing that any sex without consent is rape then responded to a question about stealthing how that isn’t rape, which made me sad because she was my hope for humanity. The whole conversation was exhausting and the MRA-types interjecting in the middle constantly was infuriating. And the “it’s not really rape” woman kept saying that if someone tells their partner to stop and the partner keeps going, then it’s grounds to defend yourself but still not rape, and refused to acknowledge that the law won’t recognize self-defense in this case because what the partner ignoring the withdrawal of consent is doing is not illegal.

Ellesar
Ellesar
3 years ago

Men Legally Allowed to Finish Sex Even If Woman Revokes Consent, NC Law States

That actually makes me feel quite sick. Presumably ‘finished’ means his orgasm, so what this law tells us is that NC considers men’s orgasms to be more important than a woman not being treated as a fuckbag. Sex being pleasurable for all parties, what an absurd idea!

Francesca Torpedo, Femoid Special Forces Major
Francesca Torpedo, Femoid Special Forces Major
3 years ago

@Rick

But I thought Superior Aryan White People all have 150+ IQs. That’s what that Bell Curve book says.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
3 years ago

@ kupo

It appears that it makes it so that a pregnant woman, or a person acting on her behalf, cannot be charged with 2nd degree murder, at all.

Ha, yeah. I had to go through it a few times but I think you’re right.

It’s obvious what the bill is meant to do; but that is some sloppy drafting.

I’ll send it to my law tutor friends. It’s a nice example to illustrate the difference between ‘the mischief rule’ approach and ‘strict constructionism’ in judicial interpretation.

This happens more often than it perhaps should when bills are subject to line by line amendments in legislatures. That’s why over here any relatively non controversial bi partisan legislation is booted up to the House of Lords. They tend to be better at avoiding this sort of unintended consequence.

There was an amusing one in Ireland when they introduced gay marriage. Due to a bit of careless wording they actually outlawed heterosexual marriage for a bit.

Angry Since 11/09/16
Angry Since 11/09/16
3 years ago

It is clear these men think women are only on this planet for their proclivities. They can’t even imagine a bond between Smith and Brosnan so deep that he would love her without their shallow conditions.

Aulma Frendzar Dèdd
Aulma Frendzar Dèdd
3 years ago

@kupo …..welp. Faith in humanity lost again I guess. Women defending this type of behaviour piss me off the most. Nowadays with the RP suggesting toxic sex practices, girls should be more careful than ever yet some of them defend this type of garbage. Is it ok to treat a girl like a fuckbag? Yes, apparently. Is it ok to violate her consent?
Also yes. By opening the “no consent needed” Pandora Box the lawmakers are pretty much putting women in a very dark situation.
I don’t expect anything good to come out of this decision.