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“When you Fap to porn you’re essentially just cucking yourself,” Red Piller explains

Ha ha what a pathetic cuck!

By David Futrelle

Pickup artist types tend to look on masturbation as a stumbling block in the way of true Red Pill greatness. If you’re not sexually frustrated pretty much all the time, you see, you’ll never have the “discipline” necessary to learn and try to use all the creepy sex-getting tactics taught in places like the Red Pill subreddit.

Naturally, Red Pillers get pretty inventive in coming up with reasons why masturbation is bad. But few have been quite so inventive as a devoted Red Pill Reddit no-Fapper called, ironically, faplordxd.

In a comment on the Red Pill subreddit today, he explains that

when you Fap to porn you’re essentially just cucking yourself because you’re jerking off to another guy fucking “your girl” so it makes you beta

Ingenious!

Happily. though I’m not sure faplordxd fully recognizes it, this logic can be extended to pretty much every situation in which you’re watching or reading about or hearing about someone doing something that you’re not doing.

If you’re watching the Superbowl, you’re Superbowl-Cucking yourself because YOU’RE NOT PLAYING IN THE SUPERBOWL.

When you’re reading about whoever invented the Post-it inventing the Post-it, you’re Post-it-Cucking yourself because YOU COULD BE INVENTING THE POST-IT!

When you notice your cat licking its own butt you are Cat-Butt-Cucking yourself because YOU COULD BE LICKING YOUR CAT’S BUTT!

Ok, that last example wasn’t such a good one.

But the point is simple: unless you want to be a cuck, you should either do EVERYTHING ALL OF THE TIME or maybe just staple your eyes and ears and mouth shut. That’s the ALPHA way.

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kiki
kiki
3 years ago

“Big Brother Will Faceboot all years.”

Faceboot – the social media site for people living in an oligarchal collectivist society.

You can just imagine what the posts would be like – “Out with comrades enjoying a doubleplus good choco ration!”, with a picture of a single, pitiful chunk of stale chocolate on a dusty table.

QuantumInc
QuantumInc
3 years ago

There are some who say that masturbating is shameful because only someone who has no chance with a woman would resort to masturbation. Similar to the quote in the original post, and with similar extreme flaws.

This really seems to miss the point of sex entirely. I’m not sure if these Red Pill guys understand why most people have sex. Many men seem to want sex as a form of validation, if they “get laid” in the right way it is proof that they are a Real Man(TM), and of course the manosphere subscribes to a intense form of this ideology.

Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
3 years ago

Folks, I’m not saying we should do them a favor… but I think they really need it explained to them once and for all that masturbation isn’t shameful.

Less sexual frustration might make them less of a danger. (what, you thought I cared about their own well-being and self-acceptance ?)

@Troubelle

And I thought I was a precocious kid.

Though as a caveat I think only cis males can be cucks, because they’re the only ones with agency and/or a sex drive.

Mish of the Catlady Ascendancy
Mish of the Catlady Ascendancy
3 years ago

@Sinkable John,

They did specify that masturbating to porn (obv hetero porn) made you a cuck. But now I’m wondering: what about when people (sorry, cis-men) masturbate without porn? Say, to a mental fantasy in one’s own mind, or just because?
I need to know the cuck dynamics here!

Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
3 years ago

@Mish

That’s a good question there. Hm… I believe mental visualisations may close the alpha system, thus accelerating cucktropy.

But I’m no physicuckist.

Mish of the Catlady Ascendancy
Mish of the Catlady Ascendancy
3 years ago

@Sinkable John,

Now that I’ve stopped laughing…
We need an equation. If C = cuck, and F = fapping, then CT could = cucktropy (best new word in the universe). Porn would be P. Alpha would be A.
Now to put this all together!

BaronJenks
BaronJenks
3 years ago

Hmm, this seems like the sort of situation were a decent base of empirical data would be really handy. Luckily the field of cuckometery has made great leaps in recent years, so we should be able to easily pick up a pretty decent Optical Cuckograph to use to measure the change in the Cuck Index after exposure to pornography.

Mindi
Mindi
3 years ago

@QuantumInc
True that. I’ve always believed red pill dudes’ biggest problem is not with women per se but with their own low status among other men. “getting laid” by “hot” women would up that status considerably but whoops! women have agency and choice, darn it. If only we’d stop using it red pillers could gain their rightful alfalfa status, the world would be right again.

So really it’s more a hatred of women for being the barrier to the admiration of other men (in their minds).

My theory, anyway.

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

Less sexual frustration might make them less of a danger.

I’m not aware of any causal link between sexual frustration and committing violence. And I know it’s not what you were trying to say, but from this line of thinking, it’s only a hop, skip and a jump to the conclusion that women should feel obligated to have sex with misogynistic men in order to placate them.

dashapants
dashapants
3 years ago

@kiki

Literally the first thing I thought of, but I knew it was a vain hope, since Facebook wouldn’t be so stupid as to allow that domain to remain free.

.org should be possible, but it’s just not the same. 🙁

kupo
kupo
3 years ago

And here we go again with dudes feeling sorry for manospherians. Smh.

To add to the dumpster fire that was yesterday, the Seattle Police Department tweeted a YouTube video where they discussed brutally murdering a pregnant woman in front of her children while playing an FPS game. That woman called them becauseshe thought her home was being burglarized. They murdered her because she was holding a knife.

https://twitter.com/SeattlePD/status/877934421474553856

They also recently sucessfully talked down a knife-weilding white man after negotiating with him for 2 hours and peacefully arrested a white man who, when he called to report a burglary, answered the door covered in blood from stabbing his own mother.

Ray of Rays
Ray of Rays
3 years ago

@ Temascos

Also in Fate Stay Night, the deep voiced priest is the coolest dude

Jouji Nakata’s voice is sex. I would happily voice-cuck myself listening to it for long periods at a time.

Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
3 years ago

@Mish, BaronJenks

The first law of cuckodynamics is : you do not talk about cuckodynamics.

That’d explain the lack of data, I guess ?

(also count me out for that equation, mathematical logic eludes me)

@WWTH

My actual conclusion would be the opposite, more in the lines that asserting masturbation as a shameful thing is probably part of their rationalizations for how they’re entitled to sex, for the sake of their morality or something.

As for sexual frustration itself, I can see a causal link if it motivates them to get out and on Tinder or just try to date in general. I didn’t mean the danger as violence itself (though as far as I’m concerned I’ll just assume any redpiller is out to hurt women, period), just the fact that they’re trying to date and spreading their stink all over.

Better if they stay home jerking it to porn and confining their bullshit to Reddit, yano ?

Nanny Ogg's Bosom (Formerly LostInLindsey)
Nanny Ogg's Bosom (Formerly LostInLindsey)
3 years ago

RedPillers making no sense, as usual.

Bina
3 years ago

I just thought of something…

“Porn”, to these guys, seems to mean just one specific type of porn: interracial cuckold porn. It’s the only thing they fap to, the only thing that gets them off, and it clearly makes them feel hateful and vengeful to see Big Black Men™ “violating” blond Stacies (who seem to be getting off on the “violation”, thus exacerbating the viewer’s mortification). These guys are massively insecure that they’re not hung like a Big Black Porn Star™. They don’t realize that most black men aren’t, either. Because what other kind of black men do they see naked, in their insular little bubble-worlds? What other kind of sex do they know of? Any real-world interactions with women, or people of other colors, are taboo to them. But in their little bubble-heads, they think that any woman they fantasize about is automatically their own property, so they get mad when they see someone else boinking her! All their theories about human minds are built around unreal scenarios generated for the purposes of very banal entertainment.

So it’s little wonder that “fapping to porn” translates to “cucking yourself”. And little wonder that, far from feeling relieved of sexual frustration, their mental frustration is increased.

Of course, NOT fapping under any circumstances won’t help them there, either. And “mercy sex” is out of the question. These guys are so awful that no one wants them. And the rejections will continue until their attitudes improve.

Weird (Encouraged by the RESISTANCE!!!!) Eddie
Weird (Encouraged by the RESISTANCE!!!!) Eddie
3 years ago

CT=(^P(*A)) >> F(subP)

… is that right???

Jimbtho
Jimbtho
3 years ago

@kupo – re the snark about ‘dudes feeling sorry for manospherians’: what’s wrong with compassion, even for the repulsive? I can see a little of myself in some of them; hell, if the Internet had been around earlier, I might’ve been one. I don’t mean they don’t deserve ridicule, or that they shouldn’t face consequences for their behaviour. Some of them are dangerous people (in fact they all are to some extent, because they propagate horrible ideas). But feeling sorry for them, or at least some of them, isn’t wrong.

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

Sinkable John,

I really fucking doubt men go on dating sites and act like assholes to women because they’re sexually frustrated though. They do it because they’re misogynistic assholes.

Kupo,

They took down the video but left up the tweet and didn’t apologize for it. That’s even worse than the “sorry you were offended” notpology.

Not related to the tweet but something else that’s pissing me off about this; I haven’t seen any outrage about this from the anti-abortion crowd. Apparently terminating your own pregnancy is murder but murdering a pregnant woman if she’s a POC with a mental illness? Just fine.

Jimbtho,

Lots of young women have feelings of inadequacy, loneliness, frustration and sadness too. Yet, we don’t see women set up equivalent sites to MGTOW, redpill, incel etc. They say hateful things about women because they hate women. Not because they’re in pain.

Jimbtho
Jimbtho
3 years ago

@weirwood – I acknowledge they hate women and are unpleasant people, but there’s nothing wrong with having some empathy and thinking ‘there but for the grace of God go I’. Now I’m not saying everyone should be a bleeding heart for Manospherians, and they certainly deserve the hostility they get, but if feeling some pity for them is unacceptable, then I think we’re missing out on something important.

And yes – your point about young women is damn right and it’s a crying shame that most Manospherians have poisoned themselves too much to acknowledge that women go through the same kind of pain and alienation.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
3 years ago

In the absence of an appropriate open thread I how people don’t mind me posting this here.

Darren Osbourne, the guy who drove the van in the Finsbury Park mosque attack, appeared in court today. He’s been charged with ‘terrorist related’ murder and ‘terrorist related’ attempted murder. At this stage he doesn’t enter any pleas and the case just gets transferred to the Old Bailey. There’s a hearing there on 27 June where they’ll do all the preliminary stuff and set a timetable for the trial.

‘Terrorist related’ has a particular meaning in English law. He’ll be tried in the normal way for murder and attempted murder. Then, if he’s convicted, there’s a follow up hearing where the judge decides if the crimes had a terrorist connection. If the answer is yes then the judge must state so in open court and treat that fact as an aggravating feature in relation to sentence. (It also has an effect on how parole is dealt with).

Although we have statutory definition of terrorism here in relation to some offences, for the purposes of this hearing the judge applies what we call “the man on the Clapham omnibus” test; ie, would a non lawyer call it terrorism?

kupo
kupo
3 years ago

@Jimbtho
The problem is when guys come in here, see a bunch of hate spewed out by someone who sees women as less than human, and feels the need to comment on how sad it is for the hateful guy.

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

Jimbtho,

You’re still talking about the misogynistic behavior as if it’s an unfortunate thing that happens to some men, not a choice they make. I can’t tell you what to feel about them. Have empathy if you like. That’s not wrong in and of itself. But expressing it on a site where the majority of the commenters are members of one or more marginalized groups and are the targets of the people in the manosphere and the alt-right looks a hell of a lot like apologia. Especially since you’re choosing to scold those of us who don’t really want to hear it.

DrHoveiny
DrHoveiny
3 years ago

I bet these guys’ cuck radar exploded if they watched Get Out, which is not likely to happen but I am amused thinking about nonetheless.

Gussie Jives
Gussie Jives
3 years ago

No, no, they’re right. Stewing the toxic sludge of misogyny is much better use of one’s time. wouldn’t want to go out and actually get a hobby or anything, would we?

Ellesar
Ellesar
3 years ago

That is the problem when you take a word, cut it in half, and attribute a bunch of meanings to it, combined of course with being a complete and utter idiot who hates men as much as he hates women.

Well traditioned female
Well traditioned female
3 years ago

@Mindi

True that. I’ve always believed red pill dudes’ biggest problem is not with women per se but with their own low status among other men. “getting laid” by “hot” women would up that status considerably but whoops! women have agency and choice, darn it. If only we’d stop using it red pillers could gain their rightful alfalfa status, the world would be right again.

So really it’s more a hatred of women for being the barrier to the admiration of other men (in their minds).

My theory, anyway.

QFT

Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
3 years ago

@Hoveiny
But he’s… And she… Except they… Then that means… Does not compute! *boom, hisss*

MAJOR FUCKIN SPOILERS:

seriously tho, an interracial relationship in which the white woman plays serial monogamist and predator, wants him literally for his brain instead of his junk, and uses her conniving skills for the benefit of white men probably is too much for them to handle. How will they know who to be insecure at?

Robert Walker-Smith
Robert Walker-Smith
3 years ago

“Fap is natural, fap is good/
Not everybody does it
But everybody should.”
(lavish apologies to George Michael).

WWTH, I agree that the problem isn’t actually sexual frustration, but a generally crapsack worldview. They don’t like who and what they are, refuse to change or grow, and blame women (and some men) for their unhappiness.

Telling them to relax and enjoy masturbation as part of a wholesome, natural approach to sexual activity would be useless; it’s equivalent to reshingling the roof of a house when the foundation is rotting away. I think we’d all be better off if they unlearned the toxic mythology that they believe; the erotic constipation is a symptom, not the cause.

Gr8Dane
Gr8Dane
3 years ago

Okay so I know that this is waaay off topic but I am really angry about this. In Vancouver British Columbia we have these free mini newspapers called the metro and 24 hr news (basically can be read in 10 minutes on the train) that people distribute outside every train station. In one of them I read that

Cosby is about to embark on a new career, is poised to launch Cosby 2.0 as a motivational speaker. His target audience will be men “wrongly accused” of assault. “Cosby wants to warn young athletes and married men about the dangers of sex crime charges. Mr. Cosby wants to get back to work and is planning town halls, and we will be coming to Birmingham sometime in July, to talk to young people because this is bigger than Bill Cosby” says Andrew Wyatt, Cosby’s spokesperson. “This issue can affect any young man esp young athletes of today, they need to know what they’re facing when they’re hanging out out partying and, when they’re doing things that they should not be doing. It also affects married men.” Wyatt said

Huh so what does POS Wyatt mean when he says “that they’re hanging out partying and DOING THINGS THAT THEY SHOULD NOT BE DOING.” like maybe drugging women and raping them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Was that a fucking guilty slip o his part.

I am soo fucking mad. There are so many hysterical men (MRA’s mgtows and others) out there going on and on and on about false accusations and this is just perpetuating this bull shit. I’m sorry I can’t I just can’t. I am so mad that I want to cry.

Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
3 years ago

@wwth

I really fucking doubt men go on dating sites and act like assholes to women because they’re sexually frustrated though. They do it because they’re misogynistic assholes.

I think frustration does play some role (not in the misogyny itself, but in whatever makes them seek out people they hate – and as David points out it’s a great tool in selling them that whole toxic rhetoric), but yeah I agree that’s not the whole thing. It’s just the one that’s easily fixable (because it benefits them in a way they understand, and that’s a condition for them to care about anything).

Or it would be, if they actually could listen. They aren’t exactly known for their ability to shed their own prejudice, even when it’s directed against themselves.

@kupo

And here we go again with dudes feeling sorry for manospherians. Smh.

I’m not sure whether or not that was meant to include me, but if so and just in case I’ma take exception first off because “dude”, and also because I do not under any circumstance “feel sorry” for them. That was a random musing about how to take away one part of their rhetoric that I think may (or may not, granted it’s not like their ideology was meant to be consistent) support a good chunk of the rest – that it also benefits them is just beside the point and to be really honest I think they deserve any toxicity they inflict on themselves anyway.

As for empathy, it’s fine to have some, but one should bear in mind that it’s wasted on them.

Hambeast, disorderly she-tornado and breaker of windows
Hambeast, disorderly she-tornado and breaker of windows
3 years ago

kupo – I heard about that on Rachel Maddow last night, complete with the history of ADAPT. Those folks are American heroes and have been since 1978.

Z&T said

I heard someone (a Mexican) refer to this once as “Mexican Tupperware”.

Husbeast and I went to see the Blue Collar Comedy Tour movie (in the theater for some reason) back in 03. At the end, the “You might be a redneck” guy said: “If you have a set of matching salad bowls that say ‘Cool Whip’ on them, you might be a redneck!'” I found this uproariously funny because I knew that, at that very moment, my dear old dad* had at least several dozen Cool Whip containers sitting on his kitchen counter!

*who wasn’t actually a redneck and used his Cool Whip containers for soup bowls

Gussie Jives
Gussie Jives
3 years ago

@Gr8Dane

Yeah, we got those in Toronto as well. Oh man… I will never forgive the TTC for not stacking the Metro in stations anymore. As part of my commute (of about 45 minutes), I try to do all the crosswords and Sudoku puzzles before I get to work, but since I take a bus to get to the train station, I don’t get a chance to pick up a Metro because they aren’t inside the station itself (usually there’s somebody to hand them out just outside).

One thing to note about the Metro and 24HRS (at least the Toronto publications), is that the Metro farms most of its stories from the Torstar News Service, while 24HRS is a Postmedia brand. Torstar Publishing is the publishing arm of the Toronto Star, currently the highest circulating daily in Canada and is typically progressive in its editorial slant. Postmedia is run by the odious Paul Godfrey and has ties to the Brian Mulroney-operated Quebecor, so as a result, the 24HRS contains drivel from the likes of Anthony Furey and Sue-Ann Levy.

Just last month, 24HRS ran a front-page story on Jordan F-ing Peterson! Yes, that Jordan B. Peterson, the asshole “free speech” defender who recently appeared on outspoken white nationalist Tara McCarthy’s web program. Front page spread with a two page “interview” inside about how tough it is being a dick to trans people.

And this freakin’ paper is distributed free inside TTC stations. I worry about the media landscape in my country… I really do… especially if Postmedia keeps buying up properties.

History Nerd
History Nerd
3 years ago

@QuantumInc

The issue with these guys is not sexual frustration, it’s validation from other men. Certain rapists are called “power-reassurance” rapists because they rape not because they want to dominate women in itself so much but because they want to validate their masculinity.

It’s really insidious that Red Pillers are promoting that way of thinking.

Jimbtho
Jimbtho
3 years ago

@weirwood – I made reference to ‘snark’ but I wasn’t intending to ‘scold’ anyone. I appreciate a lot of people here are targets of the Manosphere. But if we limit what we say to ‘aren’t these guys awful’, we’re missing a potentially important part of the conversation.

Gr8Dane
Gr8Dane
3 years ago

@Gussie

Interesting backstory on those papers. Good to know. While on the train I would read the same story covered by both of them but the angle was completely different in 24 hrs vs the Metro. I always wondered about that.

I lived in TO for a little while.There were a lot of things that I loved about it. The one thing I did not like was the subway. I feel for you guys in Toronto, esp riding the subway in the summer when it’s so humid. When I moved back to Vancouver it made me appreciate the train. For people reading my comment, Vancouver is home to the skytrain. It’s pretty awesome. SkyTrain has the world’s longest cable-supported transit-only bridge, known as SkyBridge, to cross the Fraser River. It is the longest rapid transit system in Canada, and the longest fully automated driverless system in the world. The fresh air and the views are pretty stellar.
I have to admit though I am terrified of heights so crossing the skybridge 2x every day is a little daunting. It’s like exposure therapy every day for me. I just hope I’m not on the skybridge when the earthquake hits.

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

I made reference to ‘snark’ but I wasn’t intending to ‘scold’ anyone.

That’s sure how it came off. Especially since it wasn’t even snark. I read it more as “here we go again, some guy wants to discuss the poor hurt feelings of misogynists.” I can’t speak for Kupo, but I’m guessing it was genuine frustration that so many men are so eager to empathize with members of a movement that literally wants women enslaved.

The pain of those poor, poor misogynists is already discussed at length. Nobody’s feelings are discussed more and empathized with more than white men’s in our culture. Not that all manospherians are white men but lets face it, most of them are. It’s rare that a space doesn’t center the pain of misogynistic men at the expense of the women they target. What exactly are we missing by not discussing it here?

But if we limit what we say to ‘aren’t these guys awful’

And this? Super condescending. We have way more in depth conversations about misogyny and other types of bigotry around here than just calling misogynists awful. We discuss history, culture, our own experiences, all sorts of things. We don’t need some guy to leap in with a brave proclamation about how he feels empathy for misogynists to have a meaningful discussion.

DrHoveiny
DrHoveiny
3 years ago

@Axecalibur

Lol

I would totally expect that this has been discussed already, but I was too tired from sinus issues to dig for it, ha!

Weird (Encouraged by the RESISTANCE!!!!) Eddie
Weird (Encouraged by the RESISTANCE!!!!) Eddie
3 years ago

We don’t need some guy to leap in with a brave proclamation about how he feels empathy for misogynists to have a meaningful discussion.

I was gonna jump in on this topic, beginning with an apology because I’d be talking for and possibly talking over my friends who have suffered real damage from misogyny (I haven’t)… but I think I’ll not… and just say

THIS!!!

JS
JS
3 years ago

It’s possible to feel empathy for someone, and still despise their ideas so much that actually showing empathy would be giving them more power than they deserve.

I do feel a bit sorry for those men who can’t understand that misogyny is not good for anyone, but that’s no reason to be all “Kumbaya over here at this campfire which David runs to make fun of misogyny, let’s be nice to the misogynists”.

JS
JS
3 years ago

@Jimbtho The conversations here aren’t limited to “aren’t these guys awful”. Any more strawmen?

Valentine
Valentine
3 years ago

“And here we go again with dudes feeling sorry for manospherians. Smh.”

So i dont 100% know what you meaning when you said this is ‘snarky’ but i just thought i would say what I thought recently. I agree with kupo – we dont need give these men sympathy. This site for mocking them.

Honestly, on one previous article about that man on tinder, i felt nothing but angry to him and afraid for women who this man is around. I never would feel sympathy for him. I dont care if he suffer – we all suffer and we not becoming like him. I suffer even when one girl rip out my earing when i 17. But i hate all women because of this one woman? Of course i not! There plenty more people we deserve to give our sympathy to before this horrible men.

I think kupo right to be annoyed by this and i agree. You run to give sympathy to this men? They have enough already. This place for moking them – if you want ‘important conversation’ with them then that is okay, but go to them and do, not here.

Also i just like to say, everyone here was very welcoming to me and helpful when i share my problems. There is plenty sympathy here and i very thankful about it )))

Valentine
Valentine
3 years ago

Oh fuck. That is backwards 🙈🙈🙈🙈

Weird (Encouraged by the RESISTANCE!!!!) Eddie
Weird (Encouraged by the RESISTANCE!!!!) Eddie
3 years ago

@ Valentine

Better than “Oh, back, that is fuckwards….”

Valentine
Valentine
3 years ago

@ eddie )))) I think i will say this one now instead. It is fully fuckwards now

Imaginary Petal
Imaginary Petal
3 years ago

When you are having sex with a woman you’re basically setting yourself up to be cucked since very soon you will be not having sex with the woman hence you’ve been cucked by present you who will by then be past you and the woman will have a cigarette in her mouth and the cigarette is not your penis congratulations future you will have been cucked by marlboro.

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

Off topic, but I just Googled “how to tell the difference between a moth and a butterfly” and once I got to the word “difference” the first result to pop up was “how to tell the difference between Asians.”

Wtf? Anyone else grossed out by this? Like Asian people watching is a hobby akin to bird watching or spotting butterflies. “Ooh, I saw a Cambodian one today! They can be rare!”

Gussie Jives
Gussie Jives
3 years ago

@Gr8Dane

The new trains they’ve rolled out are much more comfortable. But thanks to a certain late hard-drinking crack mayor how shall remain nameless, the overall transit debate in this city is a mess pretty much beyond repair.

I’ve always been of the opinion that in many ways Toronto serves as an excellent cautionary tale for Democrats down south. After all, we had the prototype Donald Trump for four years. Here’s just one article about how that debate unfolded: http://torontoist.com/2012/03/subways-or-nothing-angry-scarborough-residents-insist/

This is the kind of nonsense a demagogic right-winger unleashes. Transit planning as an moral issue. “We deserve a subway.” Not “the city planners have come to the conclusion that growth merits a subway” but it’s a matter of “deserving” (sound familiar?). You can’t debate these kind of emotional appeals with facts. http://torontoist.com/2017/05/arrogance-scarborough-transit-planning-leaves-thousands-behind/

Heed the lessons of Toronto, my friends. We’ve probably made your mistakes before you did.

Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
3 years ago

@Hoveiny

I would totally expect that this has been discussed already, but I was too tired from sinus issues to dig for it, ha!

Has it been discussed before? Doubt we were the first ones, but I sorta want us to be the first ones. Never thought of Get Out from a cuckoldry angle before 😀

@Petal
http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/228/324/4a4.gif

@WWTH

Anyone else grossed out by this?

One builds a tolerance. I do wonder why Asians (east and southeast) in particular are subject to taxonomy. First Nations folks too, but that seems more as a courtesy these days. With Asians, it’s just racist ‘curiosity’

Jenora Feuer
Jenora Feuer
3 years ago

@GussieJives, Gr8Dane:
Yeah, I’m not happy about 24Hrs having got the default position inside the subway stations either, with them having presumably paid for ‘exclusive access’ specifically to shut Metro out.

I used to live in B.C. (Saanichton, specifically) and remember when they first installed the SkyTrain in Vancouver for Expo ’86. The Scarborough RT in Toronto is actually the prototype for what became the SkyTrain, and the TTC used to buy and refurbish a number of the old SkyTrain cars. The reason for this being that the later-built cars were longer to carry more people… and the Scarborough RT has a curve that is too tight for the longer cars to follow. So when Vancouver upgraded its system to use the bigger cars, Toronto bought the old ones so they’d have spares that could actually work on its track.

Admittedly, I think the Montreal subway system is better than Toronto’s, but that’s at least in part because Montreal is a much more dense city than Toronto due to the restrictions of geography, and subways require a certain level of density to really be useful. Toronto’s got too much sprawl.

Imaginary Petal
Imaginary Petal
3 years ago

@WWTH

Yeah. I’ve seen gross meme pics with a number of Asian women models, and text identifying the women as Japanese, Chinese, Korean, Vietnamese, Thai, etc. Chansplaining the difference between women from various Asian countries to the other channers.