Creepiest “Friend Zone” meme I’ve seen in a long time

your name is going on a list

I know you’re targeting women but can I go on your list too please? It’s the one ‘L’ spelling.

Your ribs will be broken. Your face will be broken.

Well, if you’d be kind enough to actually turn up this time, I’m happy for you to try.

As a gay man, I’ve had gay male friends who I didn’t want to have sex with. Heck, I’ve even had straight male friends I didn’t want to have sex with.

The entire ‘friendzone’ concept seems to be code for ‘i wants to bone, y u no want to?!’ Because a boner denied is a sad boner, and life holds no greater tragedy.

The issue isn’t really that Laci used the T-word, it’s that she used it and then openly expressed her resentment of people who called her out and assumed apologies are for her rather than people she hurt. Feeling bad about something or learning better social skills doesn’t wipe your offenses away. Forgiving someone might help heal the damage someone did to you, but it doesn’t heal the social damage caused by someone’s words or actions.

It seems a lot like Laci was a liberal who didn’t understand how deeply people’s opinions are rooted in maintaining their economic and social dominance. You can’t have a “dialogue” with reactionary people from a neutral and objective point of view because that doesn’t exist. In common parlance, “objective” means a slightly less explicit form of economically privileged white able bodied cishet male dominance.

I want none of it, and I sure as hell ain’t debating it, never mind DATING it.

Ugh… Indeed. I left my last girlfriend around the time of the Zimmerman and Wilson trials – I supported #BLM, she supported the racist murderers, and just thinking about staying with her despite that horrificness made me feel like an asshole. I can’t even imagine backstabbing so many people, throwing millions under the bus to die, for the sake of only one.

@Alan @Weird Eddie, the thing that really bothers me about that article in relation to people like Laci Green and other female alt-rightists is that the behaviors that Aurenheimer says will exempt you from the “purge”, and all the terroristic violence that goes with it, are impossible for modern people of either sex to do. You can’t live under the system of coverture, because the legal mechanisms that supported it have been changed. A woman is considered to be an independent person by the law, and no amount of crying about it (assuming that this crying doesn’t eventually result in the government being overthrown) is going to make her a part of her father’s or husband’s household property. So, essentially, every single woman who aligns herself with Aurenheimer is automatically “on a list”. It’s all there in black and white: to our allies, you must conform to this legal and cultural doctrine that cannot exist under the current system of laws, or we will rape you to death. To our enemies, we will rape you to death. Either way, somebody’s getting raped, and either way, that somebody is going to be you. How can you look at that and say “when they say ‘THIS MEANS YOU’ they don’t really mean me, they mean some other you that is coincidentally extremely similar to me”? What causes that line of thinking? Is it fear? Is it ignorance? Is it greed, or hubris?

@ runsinbackground

What causes that line of thinking?

After reading the full piece I was curious about him. He’s got the mentality of an angry teenager who wanks over Gor books after being ignored by the cheerleaders. But he certainly knows his obscure legal history and, whilst his views are abhorrent, he writes quite well.

One thing I did pick up on reading about his trial experiences, is that he subscribes to the legal fantasy view that over here is the hallmark of what are called ‘Freemen-on-the-land’. They too are prone to grandiose fantasies that their (‘correct’) version of the law will ultimately prevail.

Now whether he actually believes any of it, or he’s just being provocative, I don’t know. But plenty of them do believe.

It seems akin to the apocalyptaphilia so common with that type too.

I think it’s partially activist burnout. A major goal of the alt-right is to make it clear that people on the left are not welcome to openly express their views without being threatened or harassed.

I’ve been physically assaulted by (now former) “friends” for criticizing Trump. There are situations in which I have to lie for my own physical safety.

A few years ago, some radio host did a factual expose on American Sniper and Chris Kyle (how Kyle said he thought Iraqis were savages and we should kill more of them, how the film falsely portrayed him as having PTSD when he clearly had no problem with anything he saw or did, etc.). The radio station was inundated with calls and emails that were graphically threatening and extremely vulgar.

@Weird Eddie

It’s definitely manipulative abuser thinking and behavior. They’re either violent or manipulative depending on what they think will give them more power. I know people who read Howard Zinn and had a literal “He’s on to us!” reaction.

How could 30 million women vote for a man who said that he could rape them and, because he is “a ‘star’ “, he could get away with it??

Ooh ooh ooh, I know this one! 30 million white women decided that their identity as “white” was more relevant to their daily lives than their identity as “women”, so they voted for the guy that said he was going to put white men back in charge because hey, I’m white, right? White people from all walks of life voted for Trump as the representative of White Identity: A white woman voting for a confessed sexual predator isn’t any harder for me to explain than a white plumber of any gender voting for a man notorious for stiffing contractors. What I have trouble with is the descriptions I’ve read of the alt-right as a movement that claim that one of the differences between them and old-school white ultra rightists is that they make an effort to be more welcoming to women and gay men. Reading articles like this, it makes it hard for me to see what that welcome consists of, since men like Aurenheimer make it clear that joining the movement doesn’t exempt you from maltreatment if you are a woman or a gay man.

trump n the ‘publicans blew a hole in the bottom of the “Ship of State”, and then marked all the lifeboats “Rich White cis/het X-ian Only”

The trump-(doesn’t)-care health insurance bill will torpedo about 10-15 million people who voted for him, and I betcha they ALL go down screaming “they won’t do it to US!!!”

The modern conservative is a player in an Olympic-sized demonstration of Synchronized Denial

I agree with the reasoning that led to weev’s conviction being overturned, but I can’t say I’m thrilled that he’s out of prison with a clean record.

The EFF attorneys who represented him even said nobody thinks he’s a good guy, etc.

@Dali

Oooh, oooh, I know about freemen-on-the-land/sovereign citizens! They’re also known for clogging up the legal system with nonsense, having no idea how law or words actually work, and are usually white and prone to violence!