By David Futrelle
The Men Going Their Own Way subreddit is such a good place for men to get solid life advice from their peers. Today, our MGTOW of the Day has some advice for a guy who seems to be having a little trouble moving on from a failed relationship.
What better way to go through life than obsessing endlessly about how your ex is a bitch and all women are subhuman monsters who deserve to suffer? Clearly the healthy and adult way to handle a breakup.
Gr8Dane and Laserqueen, omg, I’m so sorry!
@Gr8Dane
What a POS that person is, and to a lesser extant to the other guy who did nothing to help you.
@Laserqueen
Good riddance to him!
@Gr8Dane
Well that just sucks. What is it with cast-iron assholes – they search for vulnerable people like a turkey vulture? Yeah, I guess they do. What is it with guys who just walk around you while some other asshole is taking out his rage? Who knows. Here, pull up a comfy chair. Can I get you a refreshing beverage?
@ gr8dane
That really sucks. Must confess though I’m almost as annoyed with the guy who walked past as the original perp. I know there’s all the caveats about risk to themselves etc. But it’s that thing about “the stuff we walk past is the stuff you tolerate”. He could at least have said something.
@peevee, oogly and lysistrata
Thank you for your kindness
@laserqueen
I second that good riddance to him
@ gr8dane
I’m so sorry he dumped his craptastic energy all over you. It’s good you spoke up, bad that he used it as an opportunity to dump on you again. Do what you need to do for yourself to get his icky energy out of your good stuff.
As Mr. Parasol might say, life’s too short to go around being mean.
Don’t these guys realize that obsessing over someone will just keep them from moving on? I mean, letting go is hard, but there’s ‘I’m hung up on my ex’ and then there’s ‘I will stalk my ex and rant about my ex and revel in their pain because I really just want a reason to pity myself and make them out to be a villanous fiend’.
That kind of reaction just tells me there was a good reason why these dudes got broken up with. Hint: It’s not because you were oh so supportive.
@Ring Blade
Welcome!
@Gr8dane
People are jerks. 🙁
@Alan
exactly, the original guy was upsetting enough but the second guy could have made the difference, it was disheartening to say the least.
@Kupo there are definitely a lot of jerks but the people here (I’ve said this before but it bears repeating) restore my faith.
@Ring Blade Hello and welcome
@Katz I read a comment congratulating you on your book. I must have missed your comment regarding your book. What is the title? What is the subject matter?
I wouldn’t consider myself mgtow, alt right, or liberally progressive, Im just a single guy that lives in a camper. I dated a girl about 7 years ago, and we got engaged about 4 years ago. She was killed by a drunk driver. So it’s just kind of emotionally difficult to want to be in a relationship.
It’s just bizarre to me seeing these MGTOW people completely generalize all women. I can only imagine that these guys have never had good relationships with women, whether it be their moms, or women they’ve dated/ been friends with. I wouldn’t really pay much attention to these angry and negative people
@Freemage
I think the situation with MGTOW’s is usually that they got better at social skills at one point and used those social skills to manipulate a woman into a relationship. Ultimately, she realized that the whole relationship was based on lies and manipulation, so she quit the relationship before anything got really bad. Then, the guy projects all of his faults onto her and women in general.
Gr8Dane, Laserqueen, ugh, I can never get over how awful people can be for just no reason at all.
What bitcoin has done for coal… increased it use in China to power bitcoin farms?
@PeeVee
I’m thinking the same. I enjoy David’s work and I hope he keeps informing us on what’s going on in those dark MRA circles but I also wish for something new.
Something regarding the real world integrated to the content about online communities.
For example a while ago a guy on CNN called Kamala Harris hysterical for trying to question Jeff Sessions. Jezebel wrote a nice article on that, but I wish we had a nice post here too, after all we discuss misogyny and misconceptions about women.
Also a while ago the alt-right questioned women’s political integrity because a former Le Pen supporter changed into a communist after getting a communist boyfriend or something like that.
I’d like to see these matters discussed here, of course in a more serious tone since they’re more political.
What do you guys think? ?
You sound like someone who doesn’t have to worry about violence directed against you by angry and negative misogynists. Women and people who are perceived as women are not so lucky and cannot afford to just “ignore them.”
“Basically” a nice guy, huh?
@Gr8Dane ….I’m so sorry. ? I know saying this doesn’t help but you have all of my support. ?
@Laserqueen ugh, I have no words. To me this is one more case of shitty partners that debunk MRAs’ favourite myth that divorce is bad for society and civilization. I hope you find someone worthy of your love one day (if you want it of course). ?
Can I recommend you girls/guys a nice video? I like to watch it when I need some cat action.
https://youtu.be/y24v9Xyoz0A
I wrote about it here! It’s about Russian women who flew airplanes during WWII. I’m really proud of it. (I was trying to stay in the open thread because I don’t want to turn everything into the Katz And Her Book Show.)
MIGTOWs are boring me now. Can they try to be original? Probably not, they don’t have the creativity. If he ever actually had any sort of relationship with the woman he’s torn between consoling and hating, I suspect it’ll either have been abusive and it took her that long to realise and plan and implement an escape, or he was a ‘friend’ who hung around hoping for sex to be dispensed for being a ‘Nice Guy’, and got mardy because she got into a romantic relationship that eventually dissolved and she’s upset by it.
@Gr8Dane, I’m so sorry that happened to you. I hope you get good news on the biopsy though.
@Laserqueen, you definitely seem to be well rid of that ex. I hope you and the children have recovered from living with such abuse.
@Caleb v, my condolences for your loss. However, I second the sentiment that if you can afford to ignore angry and negative people, you don’t face the threat of angry and negative people, because those of us who do can’t afford to ignore them. Ignoring the threat can result in injury or death.
When I read these all I can imagine is the stunning desperation of a yelling Johnny Turbo.
“I’m bringing out the truth about women! Admit it!”
http://sardoose.rustedlogic.net/reviews/jturbo/jt1-4.jpg
“My god! They’re not even human!“
“I almost felt a genuine human emotion for a member of the female sex.”
“You squash that emotion right now, dammit! Dehumanize her at once and revel in her pain like a Bond villain!”
@Katz *claps hands with glee about night witches book* 🙂
OT, but I need to get this off my chest:
Yesterday my dad tells me sexism isn’t really much of a handicap in today’s society. Today, I’m crossing streets to avoid men staring at me because I’m worried I’ll get cat-called again. I’ve been dealing with this kind of bullshit over half my life. I’m so tired of it. That’s not just a turn of phrase – just thinking about this makes me feel like I’m just dragging my way through life. And I’m comparatively lucky – I’ve been harassed a bunch of times, but never assaulted. But I don’t even know how to talk to him about my experiences. He’d probably be sympathetic if I just talked to him but my feelings are so raw that it’s hard to come out and actually say it.
It’s ironic that Dad is so worried about Muslim refugees coming here and sexually harassing/assaulting women when maybe one or two of the ~couple dozen dudes who’ve harassed me over the years might have been Muslim.
Perhaps he should learn to government his own use of the English language, before trying to government things to which others should, or should not, have rights.