Guys! Stop ‘bating because it will make your hands soft and ladylike, Return of Kings warns

Francesca’s previous mention of onesies reminded me of this possible new fashion statement for a man going their own way. Of course I doubt any MGTOW would ever be caught wearing such not-totally-masculine clothing.

I think they’re quite cute. But a little pricey (unless they’re more substantial than they look).

@Alan and greek drama readers

Google is our friend. Theophrastus is the man who came up with stock characters:

The study of the Character, as it is now known, was conceived by Aristotle’s student Theophrastus…. 30 character types. Each type is said to be an illustration of an individual who represents a group, characterized by his most prominent trait. The Theophrastan types are as follows:

The Insincere Man
The Flatterer
The Garrulous Man
The Boor
The Complacent Man
The Man without Moral Feeling
The Talkative Man
The Fabricator
The Shamelessly Greedy Man
The Pennypincher
The Offensive Man
The Hapless Man
The Officious Man
The Absent-Minded Man
The Unsociable Man
The Superstitious Man
The Faultfinder
The Suspicious Man
The Repulsive Man
The Unpleasant Man
The Man of Petty Ambition
The Stingy Man
The Show-Off
The Arrogant Man
The Coward
The Oligarchical Man
The Late Learner
The Slanderer
The Lover of Bad Company
The Basely Covetous Man

So either the list got added to later, or one of those started out as Misogynist and lost something in translation. Take your pick, they all have terrific misogynist capacity.

@ Alan and Greek drama readers

More from the web:

New Comedy was the first theatrical form to have access to Theophrastus’ Characters. Menander was said to be a student of Theophrastus, and has been remembered for his prototypical cooks, merchants, farmers and slave characters. Although we have few extant works of the New Comedy, the titles of Menander’s plays alone have a “Theophrastan ring”: The Fisherman, The Farmer, The Superstitious Man, The Peevish Man, The Promiser, The Heiress, The Priestess, The False Accuser, The Misogynist, The Hated Man, The Shipmaster, The Slave, The Concubine, The Soldiers, The Widow, and The Noise-Shy Man.

from

self-proclaimed “licensed personal trainer, martial artist, musician, writer, and (barely) a video reviewer and cartoonist”

I have a rule where, if someone gives themselves such self-proclaimed labels, it’s likely they’re lying about it. For example: it’s not uncommon for people to claim they’re progressive even though they voice reactionary attitudes more often than not.

It’s difficult to believe that he’s any of those things except maybe the “(barely) a video reviewer” – the rest you’d expect to hear from someone like Napoleon Dynamite. It wouldn’t even be surprising if he added “wrestles bears” and “greatest marksman in the world” on that list to further inflate his ego.

The Melian Dialogues are one of the best ‘bad guy’ speeches in all of history. The Athenian parts are the sort of thing you can imagine a supervillain saying.”For the strong do what they can, and the weak suffer what they must.”
Depressingly, there’s a Return Of Kings article by that very title. It purports to show how morality is useless, which is strange because the survivors of Melos are actually restored to the island after the war. (It also, bafflingly, asserts that Sparta was utterly destroyed by the Thebans. That’s not even close to true; Sparta’s hegemony is ended by Thebes, but they city survives and a Spartan-Athenian alliance eventually drags down Thebes’ hegemony.)

The moral decline of Athens during the Peloponnesian war is rather sad. At the beginning of the war the Athenians were not willing to do such things like the destruction of Melos, but they become desperate as the war drags on (the Spartan decision to destroy Athenian-allied Plataea doesn’t help matters.)

I actually appreciated 300, because it was the story as the Greeks would have told it, down to Spartan troops wearing almost nothing (Greeks wore lots of armor, but thought nudity was heroic) and fighting in single combat (Greeks almost always fought in the Phalanx, but they liked to depict themselves in a heroic melee.) It’s inaccurate in most places, but it’s inaccurate in the way the Greeks would have liked it to be.

@ EJ if you see this

Speaking of documentaries, next time you’re around remind me “Ants/Voyager”. Picked up something you might find interesting.

“In his experience?”
ROFLMAO!

Re: fruits that take off finger prints, there’s an enzyme in dark orange squashes like pumpkin and butternut that will sometimes but not always cause the entire surface of my hands to peel away. I typically don’t notice until it’s already all over my hands, and then they start to feel tight. They turn orange, and then the skin comes off. It’s just the outer dead layer so it’s nice and soft and clean after, but it scares the crap out of me every time because it takes a while to come off and I’m always wondering if it’s just going to keep eating through my skin this time.

@Alan

Spartan women carried special knives so that if their husbands abused them they could scar them in a particular way. That way all the other Spartans would know why she kicked him out.

New Deli Spermer article:
“The cucking of Spartans: how women destroyed the Spartan civilization”.

The only reason we know Sparta existed was because some beta cuck Athenian mentioned them. Other than that, its all made up.
Now. Let’s do calendar math. Assume the ‘golden Age of Athens’ and it’s unadulterated influence ended around 100BC.
Jesus is born 100 years later.
Council of Carthage 397CE (AD)
Jerome writes the Vulgare Latin translation used throughout medieval Europe. 400CE
The prophet Mohammad is born 537CE.
The first Crusade 1100CE.

Not a Spartan in sight. Nope. No Amazons, either.

It wouldn’t be until the Renaissance that Europe decided thatGreece, rather than Europe, was the foundation of European culture.
Europeans appropriated Greek culture as their own. We get our Liberal Arts from them.
But Amazon’s are much more likely than Spartans.

@dreemr: Ah, I had missed the stuff about bromelain. I remembered papain because when I used to wear contact lenses the solution used to clean protein deposits off them contained papain.

And maybe this is a little off topic but I get annoyed at Greece taking all the credit as the start of civilization. Before the Greeks you had Mesopotamia, Egypt, Babylon, Persia, each with highly advanced art, architecture, mathematics, religion, philosophy etc. And this only covers the so-called West, ignoring civilizations elsewhere around the globe. Greek city states were latecomers that borrowed much from earlier societies and, frankly, were trailer parks compared the vast capitals of Memphis, Thebes, Persepolis, and on and on.