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Open Thread for Personal Stuff: June 2017 Flexicat Edition

We all feel like this sometimes

An open thread for personal stuff. As always, no trolls, no Trump fans, no MRAs, etc.

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sunnysombrera
sunnysombrera
4 years ago

@EJ

I’m sorry you’re having to look at such upheaval in the face and I hope your seas calm down soon. It’s a tough situation. Good luck and all the best with your future.

I might have a new job soon as well actually! Well it’s more of a year long placement with pocket money and all things covered: board, food, even toiletries. It’s for a retreat/activity centre in Devon and if I get it I’ll probably be working in the kitchen. Staff from all over the world, middle of the countryside, beautiful area. Church of England affiliated/owned and they’re keen on helping people gently develop themselves and their faith so I hope to finally build my confidence while there. I had the interview a couple days ago and I’ll hear if I have it this coming Thursday.

I plan to use my spare time to learn German. Something I’ve wanted to do for a while and to be honest, I’m feeling very drawn towards moving to Germany as well. After this placement is finished I’ll definitely be looking towards heading out that way.

guest
guest
4 years ago

@sunnysombrera To me that sounds like a dream job! I hope you get it, and that it’s perfect.

EJ (the Scheming Liberal Race-Traitor)

@Axe:
Thanks, dude.

@Ooglyboggles:
Thanks.

As for discussing it with my peers: I’ve mentioned it to a few that I trust, but in each case the response I’ve gotten has been “How could you abandon us in our time of need? Don’t you love the science?”

(Just typing that makes me realise that I’ve internalised the same attitudes.)

@Valentine:
Thanks very much for the best wishes. Your mum’s example is what I’m hoping I can find.

@sunnysombrera:
Thanks, and I wish you the best for your own move too. Fingers crossed for your interview.

mildlymagnificent
mildlymagnificent
4 years ago

Can’t remember who on the previous page mentioned photographs, but it’s worth thinking about and not just for funerals and clearing estates.

My sister and I sat down with about 30 photo albums and bags and boxes of framed photos to get some stuff for a DVD and a display board for mum’s funeral tomorrow. Thought it’d be a piece of cake considering the wealth of material.

However, guess who took 90% of the family and social photos in there. Surprise, surprise. It was mum. We could have done dad, grandpa, granny, me, my sister, the kids … five times over. But it was really hard to get a suitable assortment for mum herself. One thing to be grateful for. She’d already started sorting out items to be given to other family members, so we’ve got a handful of envelopes and bags full of their family’s photos for several of the rellies who are coming tomorrow. (Some of them will already have mementos of those occasions but we know, for certain, that a few of them have missed out badly in their own family’s distribution of this kind of stuff.)

Though it was helpful that mum had both noted the photos on the pages they were displayed on and many of them included a cross-referenced typed list of contents of the whole album on the inside covers. She’d been a lifelong private secretary and was a bit of a control freak in other ways so noting, filing and cross-referencing was almost a way of life for her.

Most importantly, whenever you frame a photo, for goodness sake write the relevant names, date and occasion on the back of the photo itself. And please, if you start an album to store the photos from a holiday or a particular occasion, please leave the last half dozen pages blank if you don’t have enough to fill it completely. We very nearly chucked out a couple of albums full of scenery we’d never seen and travel companions we’d never met only to discover several pages of home-family-birthday-Xmas photos at the back.

opposablethumbs
opposablethumbs
4 years ago

@Valentine, there’s a good chance it will be helpful to her just to know she’s got a cool older-but-not-parent-like-age close relative who’s willing to listen to her.

If you can, keep in touch and maybe drop in the occasional funny/weird/interesting thing you’ve seen or heard or done, just to let her know you’re thinking of her (and it shows you consider her a person whose opinions on funny/weird/interesting things are worth having). Sometimes when I’m not sure what to say to someone or how to broach a subject, I use “hey I saw this funny/weird/interesting thing, isn’t it beautiful/amazing/impossible/whatever” as a kind of place-holder to stand in for “I’m thinking of you/worried about you”.

@kupo the hair is brilliant. I love it.

@Misty, I am so sorry you are dealing with so much. I hope you get through and out the other side of at least some of these burdens soon. 🙁

@Alan, kosher and anti-semantic – nicely done, mate (I especially like kosher, which for some reason always sounds like Arthur Daley’s voice to me).

Mish of the Catlady Ascendancy
Mish of the Catlady Ascendancy
4 years ago

@opposablethumbs,

@Valentine, there’s a good chance it will be helpful to her just to know she’s got a cool older-but-not-parent-like-age close relative who’s willing to listen to her.

Yes, that’s what I was trying to get at, but you put it better 🙂
One of my nieces has been exactly like that – her relationship with her mum is very intense, and she says that she appreciates having older people to talk to who are related but not parental.

@Valentine,
Re ‘Valya’ – what I meant to ask was: is it appropriate and/or correct to address you that way? Apologies for my lack of knowledge on this!

KatieKitten420
KatieKitten420
4 years ago

@Valentine
Sorry for the assumption about cutting but I’m pretty sure that’s the most common form of physical self harm for teenage girls in the US as far as I know. I think but I’m not sure. Other people maybe can back me up about the US or at least in New York.

Honestly, I live in NYC all my life and I’ve never spent more than two weeks anywhere else so I could be totally wrong but that’s what I’ve read and that’s what all the young teenage girls I happen to know did in cases of self harm. But I know well anecdotes do not equal data. I just wanted to make you aware just in case you didn’t know, that self harm can manifest in many ways, some of which can be hard to notice at first, like eating disorders.

I think as long as you make sure not to judge or seem angry you will do a good job. You seem naturally kind and compassionate. With the knowledge me and everyone else has given you I think you could definitely have a nice constructive conversation with her.

I’m a day-sleeper so goodnight or good morning to you, whichever you prefer and the same to everybody else. I hope everyone has as pleasant a day as they possibly can.

Witch of Endor
Witch of Endor
4 years ago

I’ve been cleaning out my nan’s house so she can move into her retirement village and she had saved in her Important Documents filing cabinet a supermarket coupon that expired in 1998. The coupon is for a chain of supermarkets that does not exist in the UK, and according to some googling no longer exists in New Zealand either. (She’s never been to New Zealand.) I found an advertisement for them on YouTube and it’s honestly surreal:

dr. ej
dr. ej
4 years ago

@Witch of Endor

I can relate to that. We’re helping my grandparents clean out their house. I spent a chunk of yesterday afternoon in their attic and found some interesting things up there, like a sleeping bag that was so stiff it didn’t even unroll when I chucked it down into the garage.

They really do need to get out of that house, especially with my grandfather’s medical issues. So I’ve been dealing with that and trying to organize my own move across the country. I did manage to acquire some furniture from their house, which I feel a bit selfish for taking, even though it was offered to me for free.

The movers are coming to pick up my stuff tomorrow and it will be at least a week before I see it again. It’s a bit unnerving and will make things difficult for the first week or so, but I can not wait to get settled out there and really get down to work at my new job.

Nanny Ogg's Bosom (Formerly LostInLindsey)
Nanny Ogg's Bosom (Formerly LostInLindsey)
4 years ago

I still haven’t found anywhere to live and I have less than a month to move. It’s really stressful and messing with my head.

On the other hand, it was my birthday yesterday and I had a signing event for my new book at the local library. It went fairly well and I sold all of the copies of the book that I’d taken with me. I had a very good day and it’s spilled over in to today. I haven’t felt so good in weeks. I don’t want to hurt myself at all and I am even feeling slightly upbeat.

mildlymagnificent
mildlymagnificent
4 years ago

I realise we don’t normally need brain bleach on these threads, but this chook+knitting item needs more readers – right now.

Chic Chick Couture

Witch of Endor
Witch of Endor
4 years ago

@dr ej: Best of luck in your new job! Where are you moving to?

PeeVee the (Timber-Rattling Booger Slut, But Noice) Sarcastic
PeeVee the (Timber-Rattling Booger Slut, But Noice) Sarcastic
4 years ago

Mildlymagnificent,

Awwwww hooooow cuuuuute!

EJ,

Best of luck to you.

Ooglyboggles
4 years ago

@EJ (the Scheming Liberal Race-Traitor)
If they can’t get that you are doing this not out of malice but of necessity, it might be a while if they ever do. It’s understandable why they might feel that way, they want stability but their responses to you are trivializing your very real needs and actions as some haphazard whim. I’m sorry that your peers are not lending you a sympathetic ear.

ryeash
ryeash
4 years ago

Does anyone know of any good, free ESL programs or curriculums online with printable materials? I was tutoring a friend in English, and he told some other folks about it, so I’m getting requests now. I’ve been making up lessons as I go along, because everything I’ve found online is either really childish or like…offensive. Free would be cool, because I’m poor, but a low one-time free is something I could swing. Anything focusing on reading and writing at a somewhat beginner/intermediate level would be perfect. The people I’m tutoring speak Arabic, if that helps.

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
4 years ago

@EJ

The job security in academia always sucks, and the pay is usually not great, and so I think a self-defeating martyrdom culture grows so that people can justify a career that requires a shit ton of education for not very much remuneration. You’re encouraged to find your own reward in other aspects of the job, so that your employers can continue to pay you crap and you have no job security so you have to take it. Most people do manage to find other parts rewarding (making a difference in the lives of young people, for instance, or advancing the cause of human knowledge) but these things don’t actually pay bills. I’m sure Wal Mart would use the same business model if they could convince cashiers to find their own reward in the job outside of the paycheck. It’s a pretty good hustle.

You’re not a traitor to the science if you move to the private sector. You’re taking care of yourself in the only way open to you. Businesses don’t look out for their employees, and academia is more like a business today than it has ever been in the past. You’re doing the right thing for you, and you shouldn’t be ashamed of it.

Fabe
Fabe
4 years ago

Not really personal but I figure I post it here rather then in one of the other threads. Whos all still interested in playing in my minecraft realm if I reopen it? If there is still interested I’ll reopen it at the end of the month.

Valentine
Valentine
4 years ago

@katie

You are sleeping now i think. I also a day sleeper little bit – today Sunday so i get to long sleep until 11 👍 forgive me if i sound like i argue with what you said – thats not what i want. Of course i have no ideas what statistics are in for ukraine or for uk or us or anywhere. I know nothing – thats why i ask here. So anything you say is helping. ))) i just wanted to make clear that she not cutting because i thought it can be important. But truly what is important is that i know better what to say to her now )

Mish, Valya can be normal and fine for you to use. ))

@opposablethumbs

This i can easily do! She already knows i am weird and strange 😁 so it will be good for me to say something like this. I better at talking with her when i really there – we can play football or go for shopping and i easy to make her feel happy. But in internet or when i talking on phone i just cant think of anything to say and i can hear that she also thinks this 🙈 but if i tell some thing cool that i know she will also like to do then maybe that will help.

Paradoxical Intention - Leader of the Deathclaw Damsels

So my roommates are out of town for a week (they’ll be back either Tuesday night or Wednesday morning), and I’m taking care of their cat, who has become very attached to me since I’m the only hooman in the apartment (and even then I’m gone 12 hours a day for work/traveling to and from work). I don’t even mind that she tracked kitty litter into my bed last night.

However, I really haven’t eaten healthy since they left, and I miss human contact since I was allowed to get huggy/snuggly with them when needed.

It’s also very quiet here and while I like having the apartment to myself, it’s starting to get boring.

Also, my ear infection appears to be on the downswing, so that’s great.

kupo
kupo
4 years ago

@Fabe
I might be interested. I tend to play MC in spurts though and I need to spend most of my leisure time prepping for interviews right now, so I might not be on a lot.

EJ (the Scheming Liberal Race-Traitor)

Still interested, Fabe. Just haven’t had many spoons recently.

Hambeast, disorderly she-tornado and breaker of windows
Hambeast, disorderly she-tornado and breaker of windows
4 years ago

Wow, there’s a lot going on! I got to sleep in since Husbeast is off today and could keep Catbeast happy. It’s taken me two hours to catch up here.

I had to talk to my one remaining aunt (mom’s sister) last night on the phone. 2 1/2 hours of her medical woes, the deaths of her daughter’s MIL and her pastor’s wife, her doctor retiring and the bad doctor that replaced them, a bit about her kids and grandkids, pondering a move to North Carolina, trying to close her antique shop, people who try to sell her worthless/stolen/broken items for said shop.

It was tiring. The ‘reason’ for her call was my birthday; she didn’t ask a single thing about me, though, which is not all bad since I don’t have to dance around the fact that I’m atheist now, and she doesn’t try to discuss politics with me anymore so I guess this is the price I pay.

She wasn’t always like this, but she’s become a right-wing true believer and has graduated from Rush Limbaugh to Alex Jones. She used to be a lot of fun.

Anyway, best wishes, hugs and shoulders to any and all who need them.

Dalillama: Irate Social Engineer

I really wish the Pride parade was going a different route. I do not need this under my window right now, I only got home from work at 6:30 this morning. I want to go back to sleep…

Francesca Torpedo, Femoid Special Forces Major
Francesca Torpedo, Femoid Special Forces Major
4 years ago

@EJ

All the best to you with your new job search.

I think it’s a crime that academics aren’t better paid, I mean, seriously: people like you are the reason why we aren’t all crouching around a fire eating small animals and insects with our hands, and dying at age 16 because there are no antibiotics. Without academics I wouldn’t be able to write this message to you.

Academics are the bulwark that protects civilization from bestial, animal-like chaos and disorder. I think that a fundamental lack of respect for academia is part of the reason why modern society is decaying so badly; people ignore the institutions that have enabled us to flourish and advance as a species.

It’s nothing short of a tragedy that you have to leave your field, and it sounds like you’re distressed by your circumstance, but you must absolutely save yourself if your situation has become dire. I don’t blame you at all.

It is for similar reasons that I ran away from going to college; I don’t enjoy being an uneducated homo erectus-like ape-thing, nor do I think that education is useless; I simply refuse to encumber myself with financial debt, since the U.S. is still stuck in the 1920’s and hasn’t made college free yet, save for a few states. I am lucky to be in one of the states that tried to make college free for all, but I imagine there’s going to be a stampede to enroll now; I’ll have to jockey for position with all the others poors like myself to get a place.

“Oh, you’ll earn it back with the money from your new job that you’ll get with your academic credentials!”

Except that’s not always the case. Doing that is basically a gamble, no different from the roulette wheel. All the highly qualified professionals wandering around in debt up to their eyeballs, staring down the barrels of nasty collection agencies, employed in jobs with little prestige or salary, would seem to indicate otherwise.

Orion
Orion
4 years ago

PoM sounds wise. I would listen to PoM.

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

University is unfortunately become a means to an end for most people. It’s like an expensive job training program. You need a degree to get a half decent job so everyone from a middle or upper class background is expected to get one. There’s very little learning for the sake of learning and learning to become a better and more well rounded person. It’s a shame but not a surprise that academia is becoming more and more devalued.

I hope that didn’t come off as too snotty. I don’t think someone is a bad person if they’re not academically inclined. I don’t blame people who aren’t into studying for going to college simply to have a better chance at a decent job. I also don’t people for not wanting to do academia as a career because it isn’t worth the trouble. You’ve gotta do what you gotta do. It’s just one of those sad shitty consequences of capitalism. Knowledge itself isn’t worth anything unless it leads to money.

Valentine
Valentine
4 years ago

Hi again )) so I finish already my message for my relative and I sent. Now I will just waiting for her reply. I just make like you all said I should – some small stuff about what I doing and some weird story about Panama canal. Then I ask if she is okay and what is school like. And I invite her to stay with me and my girlfriend when I come home again, so I hope this will mean she has something to be exicted for.

Thank you for your help everyone <3

Francesca Torpedo, Femoid Special Forces Major
Francesca Torpedo, Femoid Special Forces Major
4 years ago

@WWTH

I agree entirely, which is why I think we should all be like Iceland and make University free for people.

Knowledge itself isn’t worth anything unless it leads to money.

It’s ridiculous to put a price on knowledge and learning.

I think that by monetizing something that is truly beyond value, we have doomed ourselves by trivializing education as a mere fancy frill, a frippery to be bought and sold like a new pair of boots or a dining set.

Valentine
Valentine
4 years ago

“It’s ridiculous to put a price on knowledge and learning.”

True. But a price is not for knowledge or learning, but for teachers and their time they use for educating. They deserve money for their effort. I believe what is wrong is like you say – for everything you need some kind of university degree. If things must be as such, then of course, government must subsidise for university education. Otherwise, jobs should not demand university degrees or have more way to enter. For exampe, whithout degree, then there can be apprentice option. Electrician can have elecrtical engineering degree or study like apprentice without degree with experienced mentor. And government can give subsidy to this company, like they do for shiping companies that have cadet program.

Francesca Torpedo, Femoid Special Forces Major
Francesca Torpedo, Femoid Special Forces Major
4 years ago

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Francesca Torpedo, Femoid Special Forces Major
Francesca Torpedo, Femoid Special Forces Major
4 years ago

@Admiral Valentine

True. But a price is not for knowledge or learning, but for teachers and their time they use for educating. They deserve money for their effort.

I don’t disagree. I realize my statement is a bit open-ended, and will now explain:

If the Government could give even the most micro-sized shit about their people, they would financially compensate teachers and professors for their work, just like how they pay people to run around with guns and bombs, pilot aircraft, navigate warships, and convene in decision-making rooms, pushing markers about on a map.

The onus should not be on us, the general public, to pay for our education, not when the Federal Government can spend billions on warfare but seemingly nothing on education.

Katz
4 years ago

Hey guys! It’s good to catch up on how everyone else is doing. Sounds like hugs all around are in order.

As for me, Among the Red Stars is now a real, physical book! It’s pretty awesome.

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It’s on Amazon and everything and so far people have had really nice things to say about it! Its actual release day is October 3, so I’m very busy working on publicity. It has certainly been an exciting year!

https://www.amazon.com/Among-Red-Stars-Gwen-Katz-ebook/dp/B01N4M6QTT/

opposablethumbs
opposablethumbs
4 years ago

@Francesca, you put that beautifully. If we don’t have a society in which it’s possible and admirable for people to love knowledge and love learning for its own sake …

@Valentine, that sounds pretty good! At the very least that says I’m-thinking-of-you and I-think-you’re-a-cool-person, which is a really great thing to hear from an exciting older cousin when you’re a kid and having a tough time with stuff. I hope she likes the message. Also long-distance-internet-stranger hugs to you.

guest
guest
4 years ago

‘I think it’s a crime that academics aren’t better paid, I mean, seriously: people like you are the reason why we aren’t all crouching around a fire eating small animals and insects with our hands, and dying at age 16 because there are no antibiotics. Without academics I wouldn’t be able to write this message to you.’

You’re not the first person, nor will you be the last, to conflate science and technology. Because the two are so closely connected now, it’s sometimes difficult to remember that that’s a very recent historical development–I used to tell my students since the commercialisation of the electromagnetic spectrum, but one of them suggested the invention of chemical dyes–they both happened around the same time, so either is a reasonable milestone. Technologies before this milestone were developed entirely outside the scientific or academic spheres.

Francesca Torpedo, Femoid Special Forces Major
Francesca Torpedo, Femoid Special Forces Major
4 years ago

@OpposableThumbs

Thank you. Really, I mean it; as someone who writes fiction and just generally writes as a hobby I appreciate recognition of my work.

I don’t mean to pat myself on the back, but I’m sure you think I am the sort of person who would actually benefit from university, as opposed to the person who goes there just to get a credential to enter a fast-paced, high-paying job and doesn’t really care about bettering themselves.

dr. ej
dr. ej
4 years ago

@Witch of Endor
I’d rather not say exactly where I am going to be. I know there are trolls that lurk here and I’m going to be teaching at a university, so I’d like to stay somewhat anonymous here. I’m currently in the midwestern US, but I’m moving out west, where there are mountains. I’m really excited about having mountains nearby. It’s absolutely beautiful out there and I can’t wait to start hiking again. There is even trail access out behind my apartment complex.

@Katz
That’s awesome! Congratulations!

@Everyone else
I totally agree about the compensation for teachers. I’m just starting out in academia with this new job. I’m actually getting paid pretty well in this position, but I also spent the last three years living overseas to get my PhD, so I’ve got some student loan debt to take care of. It was a risk to go get the degree and I was lucky to get a position that will allow me to take care of that debt in a reasonable amount of time.

My mom taught elementary school for many years and was not paid enough for the amount of work she did. She was at school on the weekends and during the summer and ALWAYS brought home a stack of papers to grade. When I got my first job, I told her what my salary was and she said I was making almost as much as her. I was a recent graduate with a MS and she had 20 years of experience (all at the same school). She definitely wasn’t paid enough for everything that she did for those kid.

jobs should not demand university degrees or have more way to enter. For exampe, whithout degree, then there can be apprentice option.

I completely agree with this. There is far too much pressure on kids to go to university. Not every job needs a college degree and not everyone is cut out for academia. There need to be other options, especially considering how expensive it has become to get a degree.

Valentine
Valentine
4 years ago

Valentine, that sounds pretty good! At the very least that says I’m-thinking-of-you and I-think-you’re-a-cool-person, which is a really great thing to hear from an exciting older cousin when you’re a kid and having a tough time with stuff. I hope she likes the message. Also long-distance-internet-stranger hugs to you.

Thank you. I am little bit nervous now but i hope she will reply soon. Now at home it 00:43 so she will not see until morning tomorrow before school. So i hope it is okay for her.

Paradoxical Intention - Leader of the Deathclaw Damsels

Fabe | June 18, 2017 at 11:17 am
Not really personal but I figure I post it here rather then in one of the other threads. Whos all still interested in playing in my minecraft realm if I reopen it? If there is still interested I’ll reopen it at the end of the month.

I’d be interested in it if it has mods. Unfortunately, mods have spoiled me and I can’t go back to playing vanilla. Not enough witchcraft.

Valentine
Valentine
4 years ago

@Fran

Okay seems maybe i misunderstand what you meant before. The usa i know is spending too much on millitary. I think the highest? Maybe russia is higher but i dont know.

Lysistrata
Lysistrata
4 years ago

@Katz- all right! Massive congratulations! I will now buy…

Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
4 years ago

I’ve only tried Minecraft once, but I couldn’t figure out how it works… She says while abusing every glitch in FO4’s settlement builder to make a bedroom for her pet Deathclaw.

(I don’t understand myself sometimes.)

atropos_of_nothing
atropos_of_nothing
4 years ago

*trigger warning*

I just told my mom about how I was drugged and gang-raped at a professional convention two months back, about the abortion I had to have as a result.
She told me about her own brutal rape when she was a sixty-two-year-old widow.
So now, I don’t know a single woman who hasn’t been sexually assaulted in some way.
I want to drop the bomb. We are irrevocably fucked as a species.

Z&T
Z&T
4 years ago

@Fishy Goat –

I am liking that whimsy! 🙂

It reminds me of Morocco, I watched a travel program about it yesterday and it made me wish to go back there for a holiday. It’s one of my fave places.

But, it’s hot here right now so there’s no point in going somewhere else hot.

And I have plenty of ‘issues’ to deal with too. None has reached the shit hit the fan stage yet, and I’m juggling to keep it so, we’re all familiar with the low grade crap I’m sure.

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
4 years ago

The usa i know is spending too much on millitary. I think the highest? Maybe russia is higher but i dont know.

The US spends far higher on its military than any other country. In fact, depending on the year at which you are looking, you might find that the US has more than 50% of the military spending in the entire world, outranking all other countries combined.

Hambeast, disorderly she-tornado and breaker of windows
Hambeast, disorderly she-tornado and breaker of windows
4 years ago

atropos – hugs, if wanted.

wwth & Fran – Totally agree! Although, I came at it from a different angle. In the 80s, I was in the USAF and I worked in Base Education. I had to interact with most of the officers on the bases I worked at. Officers, by definition have some sort of accredited college/uni degree. And a lot of them were… not smart. I had to wonder how a person could go to school for four years after high school and turn out so… not smart.

I came to the conclusion that pretty much anyone with the time, resources, and inclination could buy a degree. It made me skeptical of higher education for a long time.

I finally decided to go to university in my late 30s and it was a revelation! I loved it SO MUCH and being free to just learn things was simply amazing! It was an experience I wouldn’t trade for anything.

Which brings me back to: Why do we force people to pay lots of money and spend lots of time to do something that doesn’t really benefit them* except for gaining some artificially enhanced earning potential?

*Of course, they (specifically the AF officers) got their commissions, but a bunch of them didn’t get a real education out of it, as far as I could see.

kupo
kupo
4 years ago

@atropos_of_nothing
I’m sorry that happened to you. People can be awful.

PeeVee the (Timber-Rattling Booger Slut, But Noice) Sarcastic
PeeVee the (Timber-Rattling Booger Slut, But Noice) Sarcastic
4 years ago

@atropos_of_nothing

I am so sorry for what you and your mom went through.

Healing thoughts being sent to both of you.

Ooglyboggles
4 years ago

@atropos_of_nothing
I am sorry for you and those you know who went through such a terrible thing.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
4 years ago

@ atropos of nothing

Oh god that’s awful. Whatever I say just feels like a platitude; but I really feel for you.