Incels agree: Women who’ve slept with more than one guy should be banned from universities

@Serebrianyi Golub

“A king? You want a king? Boy, nobody wants a king. Ignatius, are you sure you’re OK?”
– Confederacy of Dunces, proof that neoreactionary incels existed before the internet

Reminds me of that famous Aesop in which the frogs petition Jupiter, that famous Olympian deity, to give them a king and he prudently advises them it may be wiser not to have one, from one adaptation I have seen.

Naturally, things end in an not very pleasant manner.

I believe the biblical prophet Samuel also told the Israelites they were about to make a very large mistake with this King business; how their king would send their sons off to war and take their daughters and tax them heavily and etc.

ETA:

Despite being a neopagan, I read the bible for fun, merely because I enjoy reading books of all kinds.

It’s a pretty good story, too.

@Francesca:

Despite being a neopagan, I read the bible for fun, merely because I enjoy reading books of all kinds.

It’s a pretty good story, too.

Yeah, when you view it similarly as you do (say) Ancient Greek or Egyptian mythology, it can be entertaining. I’m particularly fond of how the angels are described as Lovecraftian monsters, which a lot of fictional works – save for stuff like Neon Genesis Evangelion and Bayonetta – don’t do enough of.

It’s just unfortunate, unlike those ancient mythologies, people treat it as literal truth and a lot of its “morals” quite seriously despite being irrelevant or out-of-date.

@Grumpyoldsocialjusticemangina Great letter; Kamala Harris is doing us proud.

‘I worked in the library at the uni I went to and the clever ways students invent to block out the world are impressive. Jackets, stacks of books, umbrellas, art supplies and camera tripods are just a few ingenious ways to make a fort in the library!’

I wish I had some pictures of these (I’ve never seen anything quite that elaborate in the libraries I’ve been in–I’ve never worked in one, and as I’ve been blessed through almost all of my academic life with personal quiet space to work in I’ve only ever gone to the library to get books, and not ever spent a lot of time actually studying in them). When I taught architecture I used to assign my students post-occupancy evaluations, which involved going to a building and seeing how people actually used it. One of my questions was ‘how have the building’s users adapted the space to make it work better for them?’ This would have been a great example. I’ve noticed that libraries have recently put in ‘pod-chairs’, which seem to provide a little quiet and privacy, but I’m guessing not nearly enough as they’re always occupied.

http://www.apresfurniture.co.uk/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/c/e/cell-128-high-back-armchair-01.jpg

Now that I think about it, I don’t see carrells around much any more…people seem to be expected to work at open tables.

@G.O.S.J.M.:

it’s a fascinating account of one of the early stages in the development of Western Civilization. They got a lot of things wrong (like slavery), but they made some real progress. If you read it as part of humanity’s struggles to understand who we are, it’s very useful. As a guide to modern society, it’s not very useful.

As someone raised in Reform Judaism and who still identifies as Jewish, albeit incredibly secular, it always confused me how other Abrahamic faiths like Christianity are so zealous about the material and prone to fighting amongst themselves over differing interpretations that leads to a lot of self-victimization. Whether another sect of Judaism wasn’t the “right one” or some kind of opponent wasn’t really an issue – they were treated simply as different schools of thought.

When it came to the Old Testament, it was treated as a wholly metaphorical text that described the birth of human civilization – which, as many white nationalists are loathe to admit, began in the Middle East (among other things omitted or downplayed) – and its development until (at least what was then) the present. Not perfectly, of course, since it was based on oral tradition – which can lead to a case of “Chinese Telephone” – and then the material, when written, was edited in a selective manner by those who wrote and then later printed copies of the text.

I have a joke (which I don’t really tell people often) that the reason there’s so many Jewish lawyers is that the Old Testament is basically about an elongated litigation between two parties – Yahweh and his “chosen people.” The guidelines are ever-changing and, perhaps, even never-ending because of how unpredictable Yahweh can be as an entity.

@Mish:

yes, what you said. Much pithier 😀

I tend to prefer being blunt…

EJ you are definitely easily distracted.

If you’re so easily distracted by female classmates gossiping about their extracurricular activities, it’s obvious that it’s YOU who don’t belong in higher education. I suggest you go join a monastery instead.

@Bina Interestingly enough I’ve just had an IM from my niece complaining about boys talking loudly about partying in the library while she’s trying to study (she’s just starting exams for her first semester of pre-law, so is very stressed out.)

I’d say hearing other people talk loudly about sex is pretty distracting for most people, but is easily remedied by plugging in your headphones, moving to the silent study area, or if you’re already there, getting a librarian to come shush the perpetrators.

But that kind of thinking is too hard for an incel.

(Niece decided to take a study break and hope they were gone soon.)

@Zephkiel:

What, and not hear them talking about sex?

@Grumpy Oh look, Jason Miller called Kamala Harris hysterical, what a surprise!! “Objective perspective” my ass.

@misophistry

Any US government that instituted this law or any of the other laws I see these people proposing would be a tyranny and would be resisted by armed militias according to the constitution.

Would it? The right-wingers believe that the police force and military force are on their side. And they’re not wrong. BUT there are a lot of rw idiots that would make people’s life hell if they got to power. And people are starting to see that. Look at the Oathkeepers. They keep catering to the rwingers because “the left wants to destroy western civilization” ?
but they keep getting attacked by the alt-right for no reason.

@ bina

I suggest you go join a monastery instead.

You’ve just reminded me of something I meant to post about, so thank you.

I recently watched a documentary about Franciscan monks. Not normally my bag, but it was set in my old hometown. They were essentially urban monks.

It was fascinating to hear their various backstories and how they came to be monks. Some had always had a religious calling. A couple of the guys though had a real sex and drugs and rock and roll history. And ultimately it was a way of leaving what they felt was a hedonistic path to self destruction. So they were quite literally men going their own way.

Now did they spend their time slagging off women? Of course not. They are heavily involved in the local community. They run a kitchen where people can drop in. Whether that’s because they can’t afford food or they just want a bit of company. They had a clothing bank so people could get anything from warm clothing in winter to nice clothes for job interviews. They helped repair things for people. They certainly hadn’t withdrawn from society. They were always out and about, either helping people or tapping up local merchants for food for the kitchen., and as this was Bradford that included lots of Muslim suppliers, whom they had a very friendly and joking relationship with.

And of course a lot of the people they interacted with were women (I’m no statistician, but I’d say about half). They weren’t avoiding them. They had lots of female friends. They laughed, joked, and provided a sympathetic ear and assistance where necessary. They just weren’t trying to shag them (they could be surprisingly flirty though, in a joking way).

But it really highlighted how you can abandon physical relationships with women, without becoming a real knobhead in the process.

Women should lose all rights and become sex slaves for incels?

The Engineer19 has summarized what other incels have been saying, for years now, in a more roundabout way.

The only points left to hammer out are how women get divided among incels and what to do with them once they’ve become unfuckable.

But really, discussion is unnecessary. Incels know that women will need to get divided evenly. And once women turn 25 (that is, once they become unfuckable), they need to die.

Next up on incels’ to-do list: implementation.

Ah, but you see, once this would be implemented, they would find a way to whine about the fact that women won’t come to them of their own free will, and have to be forced by the government, whereas women do flock to Chad naturally…

#foreverangry

Or as someone so beautifully put it: “their ladyhate is what fuels them.”

@Alan
Unlike the MRAs, those monks sound cool.

@ kat

those monks sound cool.

Oh yeah! Especially the ones who demonstrated you can have a beard and a tonsure and still look like you’ve stepped off the cover of GQ Magazine.