By David Futrelle
Today’s MGTOW of the Day, fresh from the Men Going Their Own Way subreddit, has a rather unique perspective on the relative values of men and women. As he sees it, women are vastly inferior creatures whose only value stems from the fact that they can er, carry seed.
Men, by contrast, are … buses.
I’m not sure MGTOWs have quite mastered the fine art of the metaphor yet.
@ shiya
HEY NOW, thats DETECTIVE Scented Fucking Hard Candle to YOU!
Corny, I don’t think it’s super-mega-meta trolling, this is like the exact shit I tend to see white feminists and white liberals do. . .
@Shiya
You’re probably seeing only your own LinkedIn profile because Google knows who you are so they provide you with relevant search results. When we search, we see a bunch of fake looking LinkedIn profiles and some marketing company, none of which appear to actually have your photo on them. So no one knows your name, no one can find your name from that search, and it’s gone now anyway. If you’re curious what everyone else sees, try reverse image searching your photo from an incognito window in Chrome or InPrivate Browsing in IE. You’ll see what anyone without the specific data Google has mined on you sees.
Actually, now that my gravatar has changed and no one but the assembled can access my real name, I’m feeling much better. 🙂 And though I doubt SFHC INTENDED to post an easy map to my real information, that is what was done.
The definition of “dox”:
“search for and publish private or identifying information about (a particular individual) on the Internet, typically with malicious intent.”
So, she/he did not actually post my name here, but gave easy to follow directions to find it yourself! It is my own fault that those directions were so easy to follow, I agree. But the fact that the “search for” part was simple doesn’t mean it wasn’t done.
But again, SUPER amusing to me that some of you were all, “No one should be uncomfortable!” and are now laughing about my actual IRL info being briefly accessible and me being a smidge perturbed by it. Gee, thanks, guys. 🙂 I guess you’ve sure hoisted me on my own petard! I can only imagine what would’ve happened if Afro had posted an easy to follow map towards one of your LinkedIn accounts. Haha. Well, whatever.
@clever
Oh no. That just makes this whole thread a new level of fuckery. ffs
@kupo: Valid point. But one of the “fake” profiles shows up, though, because it was my profile picture and I’ve since deleted it, causing it to look fake with no profile picture. The marketing company was an actual former company of mine, with me likely listed as an employee or similar. Those are all legit search results, ‘fraid to say!
But regardless, it’s all wiped clean now unless someone who was able to find the info before I changed the gravatar takes out the middle man and straight up posts my name here. ;D
@ Shiya:
^^^ What kupo just wrote.
I have no idea what your real name is. I doubt anyone else here does either. You weren’t doxxed. Your real info wasn’t shared here.
@shiya
STOP CONFIRMING THE DETAILS! The more information you post about yourself and your career, the more likely it is some asshole will figure out your more private info.
I’m not laughing, I’m concerned this might happen somewhere else if you’re not more careful.
@corny: What, because I’m a real person whose real name was actually really easily available (or, SEEMED available to me, anyway!) for a brief period, and I really IRL think that people should try to be kind and understanding to other actual human beings when they seem to be trying to learn? God forbid.
@JS: You say that, but my panic has already confirmed that it’s real and the details I’m mentioning, like the company, were already mentioned in the original post (“stolen from some marketing company’s website”). So I mean yeah, silently deleting my gravatar and not freaking out probably WOULD have been a better approach, but I’m well down this road by now. ?
Welp. Thank you super a lot to the people who ignored our differences over the Afro thing to help reassure me that my information was re-concealed. You’re all awesome, thank you.
I love the rest of you guys too, but I’m not super jazzed about the enjoyment at my potential IRL safety’s expense. Well, who would be, right? 🙂 Have a wonderful day, everyone. With this whole profile picture thing cleared up, I’m actually going to go home!
Not a thing anyone said, but if that’s what you perceived then a lot of things make sense now.
Unfortunately there is no cure for non-comprehension, so.
@shiya
cut the shit. So many of your statements are passive aggressive. And your martyrdom in the name of tone policing is telling. We don’t agree with you. So what? You might not be a troll, but the words you have written make you a troll in my eyes. I’m not going to argue with you why I’ve come to that conclusion; no reason as you will backpedal on a LOT of shit I ignored for the sake of “they’re new”.
get off your fucking cross.
I have now run out of patience, Shiya. You were not doxxed, and you learned some safety measures on how to protect yourself from people that mean you zero harm. We did not victimize you in any way.
ETA: what JS said. You’ve left a trail of breadcrumbs, and that’s not good, either.
Learn from this. Yes, go home.
Have a nice day yourself.
Bit O/T from the general thread but probably appropriate for a site about feminism. The horrible fire here has just highlighted who are the heads of the various emergency services:
Shiya,
I’m relatively new here as well, but I’m not ‘new to life’ and you strike me as someone who’s very young and idealistic.
Tip from me – you’ll not change someone who’s welded to their views.
And the ‘average man’ will not listen to any type of long winded ‘academic’ feminism.
They will never respect you. Don’t waste your time. It isn’t really about respect, anyway – what these hard core traditionalist types want – is a Mommy. I have concluded that this is what it boils down to for most of them.
Only a fearless man will respect a fearless female.
Those who want Mommy? You’ll not talk them out of it. And even if they do nod along with you and concede a few points – they’re still looking for Mommy and will try to turn you into Mommy.
Watch your step.
You should also be careful of those who agree with you 100%. They might be bullshitting you and running a hidden agenda.
@Alan
I was expecting that to be an MRA rant about how incompetent women are because it’s their fault somehow. Glad I was wrong.
@zt
I shuddered. Spot on.
@Shiya
Uhm… you told people to look at your picture, you told them your avi here is your face. You provided the map, not SFHC
THAT SAID! I’ve not said anything for over a year now, but it’s been grating on me almost since I got here. Can we please stop tryna find out who people really are? What’s even the point? I literally don’t understand the purpose. Y’all ken me, I’m not at all above some troll chewing. But why are we reverse image searching someone’s face? Yeah, there’s a chance it’s a stolen image (not sure why SFHC or anyone else cares that much if it is), but there’s a chance it isn’t. Am I the only one (other than Shiya herself) who’s a little creeped by that? It’s not a dox, but it don’t hafta be for me not to like it. Y’all wanna try to sleuth out whether a rando troll is actually MRAL or Mark or NWO (blah blah, same person) I’m gonna be annoyed but silently. This is weird tho. Rant over, ignore as warranted…
Yes, I’m in a mood, why do you ask?
@Axe
You aren’t and I agree with you entirely. It was, in fact, a little unnerving, but I wasn’t going to say anything, because I have silently accepted cybersleuthing as common practice on the Modern Day Interweb.
See, back in my day, we used to keep our personal info off the Internet, which prevented this sort of thing, and one was actually encouraged not to use one’s real name or picture online, but I come from a magical era when we used a telephone jack to go online, and computers had 40mhz CPU power and we thought this was simply the fastest ever.
King Arthur was real back then, and Tintagel Castle existed, and King Pellinore was still looking for his Beast.
@axe
You raise an interesting point! You’ve given me something to think about tonight, thank you!
@Z&T
http://i.imgur.com/supdg1N.gif
Jeepers. Like Afro, I find it hard to walk away when called out! I admitted that earlier. So here I still am. 🙂
@Policy: Cornychips, for example, laughed at the situation several times, both before and after I said it was my real name. For example, after I said I was actually doxxed by SFHC:
I mean sure, they didn’t say “lol” but that was clearly a joke at my expense. Perhaps they didn’t realize I was actually worried about my actual info at the time, though.
@corny: I never intended to be passive aggressive, I was trying to be forthright and authentic in my words. It’s super unfortunate that this uh… situation? has caused the attention to be directed away from what I view as an important topic, but I still mean what I said and wasn’t trying to be passive aggressive anywhere. I mean, maybe a bit after I was doxxed. 🙂 Sorry about that.
But, I don’t tend to backpedal often. If called out for something that is wrong (like my earlier use of “crazy”) I try my best to apologize and improve rather than move goalposts, but please let me know if you see a specific instance.
@PeeVee: Okay. I WAS actually doxxed. The information given, I have confirmed, COULD have lead to my actual information. I mean, I’m kinda doing a worse “bread crumb” job here, but that’s a fact. Thankfully my actual name was not posted, but the bread crumbs that have been placed were placed by more than just me, and the fact that they ARE about my actual career is just a confirmation that I WAS DOXXED. Like, how does anyone even know that my picture is on the website of a marketing firm? That’s the result of being doxxed! And so now I’m in a damned if I do, damned if I don’t situation of having to convince everyone that yeah, I actually DID have my private information made easily accessible so people take that issue seriously, while also not leaving “bread crumbs”. So yes, I was victimized. It was unintentional I’m sure, and mostly due to my own ignorance of using that gravatar and making it super easy to do, and I don’t take it personally, but it doesn’t change the facts that someone searched out my personal info and posted their method of doing so for other people to follow. So please. Just trust me that, though I’ve cleaned it up a bit now, what had been available from a reverse image search WOULD identify actual IRL me, thus my earlier panic.
@Z&T: I’m an idealist, and I accept that. And I’ve had people take advantage of me a few times for trying to see the good in people, and I accept that, too. But hardening my heart doesn’t help anyone except for maybe me, and even that’s debatable. But thank you for the thoughts, and know that I don’t really disagree, haha. 🙂
@Axe: Yeah, I made the fatal error of forgetting both about Google Reverse Image Search, AND about the fact that I had used the profile picture elsewhere. In a way, I should thank him for pointing out my error BEFORE someone malicious decided to do that search. So, thanks SFHC! However, it doesn’t change the fact that SFHC pointed out how to find me when no one had thought to do so until that point.
I definitely agree, I am the dumb here for that picture being there in the first place, and I evidently have more to learn about internet safety than I realized! But thank you for your thoughts. I’m also just going to go ahead and delete that pic off imgur, just to be safe, even though it’s not elsewhere available. 🙂
I do it because of this.
@Shiya
Not my point, but as I said before, there is no cure for lack of comprehension. Maybe spend less time typing out massive walls of text and more time reading? Let me try to guess how you will misinterpret this post …
@SFHC: As I mentioned, actually thanks for pointing out my ignorant action before someone ACTUALLY malicious did what you did, instead. But do you accept that sometimes, the profile picture might ACTUALLY be that person? I mean. ‘Cause I hope I’ve sufficiently proven that yeah, THAT WAS ACTUALLY ME. 🙂
Shiya, no, you were not.
No. You. Were. Not.