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Friday Mailbag: Creepy incel explains why men should be glad to be raped

Speedy delivery!

It’s time for another roundup of Comments I Don’t Let Through Moderation! There are some doozies this time. Well, there always are, but these doozies are even doozier than usual.

I’ll start with some of the milder contributions before working up to the “holy shit an actual human being thinks that” ones.

First, a message to all of us who are not as tight as perhaps we should be:

And a low effort comment that might as well have been written by an alt-right comment generator:

you beta males are so funny it stops being annoying lololzz, go live in the friend zone forever cucks

This commenter has an interesting take on the perennial topic of sluts:

Most women and men are sluts. By its very definition it is to have many causal sexual partners. So for all you sluts at heart. please bend over and be at one with receiving a load… because at the end of the day. that is all you are good for!

I’m not quite sure if the banned commenter who calls himself “Beta Male Uprising” is a troll or not. On the one hand, he posts things like the comment below, full of fairly standard MGTOW/Incel rhetoric on what he sees as the inevitable revolution of angry beta males against their lady and lady-friendly oppressors:

Publisher of this website you are a complete fucking pathetic coward. Not allowing me to post my comments because huh duh triggered? Like I said history will remember the crimes of women, and the millions of lives lost. There will come a point where the rage of beta males outgrow their fear and the uprising happens, where normal gender relations are restored and resources distributed equally for men according to each type of what they are. If Trump loses his position, gets impeached because of you marxists the patriots will revolt and make sure he stays. Hate will always be stronger than that pathetic thing you call ‘love’ and we will be victorious. More progress has been achieved by hatred than anything else, a superior and powerful emotion in the psyche of mankind. Hate empowers, hate strengthens.

And then he starts going on about women “harvesting the male gaze” without permission to give themselves little tingles, which he thinks is basically the same as rape. This is an idea so simultaneously reprehensible and silly it’s hard to believe that even a self-professed Man Going His Own Way could possibly take it seriously.

And then there’s this one from a very angry incel — is there any other kind? — that you may want to skip unless you feel your blood pressure is dangerously low. Because this guy thinks that men who are raped should be thrilled to have gotten the attention.

I would like to leave a message for all you lucky mangina men out there that get what you complain as ‘raped’, go fucking kill yourselves if you do not like it. You are miserable wastes of oxygen and I am also talking to those that got the fucks they needed in prison. Go end your miserable useless lives if you don’t like it either. We incels get nothing at all while you get everything yet whine about it, fuck you all.

I think this badger has the right idea:

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PeeVee the (Timber-Rattling Booger Slut, But Noice) Sarcastic
PeeVee the (Timber-Rattling Booger Slut, But Noice) Sarcastic
3 years ago

I like how women masturbating is somehow an affront to Beta Man, now. Because, apparently, I have spent all day collecting male gazes in my Gazeall ™ portable harvester.

I will definitely scold my nether regions for this dastardly crime. With my favorite toy. Which, depending on the time of day I decide to chastise my genitals, may or may not be my husband.

Zatar
Zatar
3 years ago

Hate will always be stronger than that pathetic thing you call “love”

Hate to break it to you beta male uprising but the Sith still aren’t excepting your membership.

IgnoreSandra
IgnoreSandra
3 years ago

Hate to break it to you beta male uprising but the Sith still aren’t excepting your membership.

This is low. In fact, this is lower than the Sith.

“Peace is a lie, there is only passion.
Through passion I gain strength.
Through strength I gain power.
Through power I gain victory.
Through victory my chains are broken.
The Force shall free me.”

Says nothing about hate. Passion – strong emotion. That includes love.

Plus the Sith are all about becoming stronger, becoming truly free to act as they please. What have any of these trolls gained? Exactly nothing.

So in conclusion, the Sith have good reasons for not giving these people the time of day.

TW: Mention of rape

As someone who’s been raped several times, rape is not fun. Period. Incels who haven’t been raped are fortunate.

Weird (Encouraged by the RESISTANCE!!!!) Eddie
Weird (Encouraged by the RESISTANCE!!!!) Eddie
3 years ago

chastise my genitals

I LOVE IT!!!!!

Zatar
Zatar
3 years ago

*accepting

CleverForAGirl
CleverForAGirl
3 years ago

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Weird (Encouraged by the RESISTANCE!!!!) Eddie
Weird (Encouraged by the RESISTANCE!!!!) Eddie
3 years ago

Omigosh, the incels are revolting!!

(… don’t say it… don’t say it… DONT SAY IT…)

a aarrrrgghhhhh…

“You can say that again!!!”

PeeVee the (Timber-Rattling Booger Slut, But Noice) Sarcastic
PeeVee the (Timber-Rattling Booger Slut, But Noice) Sarcastic
3 years ago

I LOVE IT!!!!!

Thanks! 😄

Ooglyboggles
Ooglyboggles
3 years ago

Another piece of evidence that incels don’t give a damn about the wellbeing of other men.

PeeVee the (Timber-Rattling Booger Slut, But Noice) Sarcastic
PeeVee the (Timber-Rattling Booger Slut, But Noice) Sarcastic
3 years ago

Ooglyboggles, well, Incels are not really MRA’s, are they? I mean, they fall under the “manosphere” umbrella, but they never struck me as being particularly concerned with anything, other than their desire to break their celibate status.

Ellesar
Ellesar
3 years ago

Well I guess the incels win todays’ most disgusting ‘ideology’. but none of them come out of it looking good.

Haise, the husky puppy
Haise, the husky puppy
3 years ago

Hoping that other men who aren’t exactly like him get assaulted and raped? Nothing like a misogynist than a misandrist.

Wasn’t there someone a while ago named mgtowuprising on here? Who spewed the same bs of a future revolt for the self-proclaimed beta males to get everyone here ~riled up~

Interesting (and sad) how they want sex and power but love to them is meaningless. Can’t imagine waking up every day hating yourself and everyone around you because you hate yourself.

dr. ej
dr. ej
3 years ago

I have spent all day collecting male gazes in my Gazeall ™ portable harvester.

go home with orgasms

Yes. After a productive day of gaze harvesting, I exchange my gazes for orgasms at the Feminist Company Store. Then, I take my orgasms home with me and we have a lovely evening together.

Moggie
Moggie
3 years ago

Hate will always be stronger than that pathetic thing you call ‘love’ and we will be victorious. More progress has been achieved by hatred than anything else, a superior and powerful emotion in the psyche of mankind. Hate empowers, hate strengthens.

Dear Wm. Hazlitt,

Thank-you for giving us the opportunity to consider your manuscript. We read it with considerable interest, but regret that we will not be able to make an offer of publication at this time, feeling that it does not fit in with our plans for the coming year.

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

It’s sadly not the first time I’ve seen incels express the opinion that rape victims are lucky because they’ve at least gotten laid.

I don’t think they legitimately envy rape victims though. I also don’t think they really don’t get the difference between having sex and being raped. I think it’s the mental gymnastics they need to do to continue telling themselves that no one suffers like they have suffered. If they acknowledge even for a second that they’re not the most oppressed person in the entire universe, they might have to actually care about someone other than themselves.

Zatar
Zatar
3 years ago

IgnoreSandra:

This is low. In fact, this is lower than the Sith

That’s why I say they aren’t accepting his membership.

Although I will say that hate is a pretty big part of Sith philosophy as we see it in the original Trilogy.

Ashara Payne
Ashara Payne
3 years ago

Some (no idea how many tho) men are never happy. Heck I should change that to ‘some people are never happy’. If you are deprived of something you need or think you need or merely just want (be it food, shelter, or anything else money can buy) you tend to become overly obsessed about getting that thing you’re lacking. But, like feeding the birds in your backyard generally leads to bickering squabbles amongst the birds, sunflowers sprouting beneath the feeders and birdshit everywhere, giving people want they want generally doesn’t make them any happier. Happiness comes from within. People write books on this stuff.

Men who tend to throw pity parties will bitch and whine even when they are getting regular sex. They’ll start bitching that she’s too passive, she won’t do enough bjs or won’t do anal or won’t let him tape said bjs or whatever. Then they’ll bitch about her not making him enough sammitches. They’re just miserable self-pitying immature sad people who cant take responsibility for their own happiness.

Dan Kasteray
Dan Kasteray
3 years ago

Why exactly do these guys hate men so much?

i may be pearl clutching here, but their outright indifference to the plight of men and the amusement the seem to often take at men’s suffering is mindboggling.

I get that they have a pretty twisted attitude regarding women, but how do you get to be this twisted? Is there a school for it?

Swedish Sexual Bread
Swedish Sexual Bread
3 years ago

Re: the last comment
http://media.tenor.com/images/13cc4fb643aebb13e298d6cab44502ab/tenor.gif

Honestly, if these assholes were force-wielders, they’d be neither Jedi nor Sith. Too weak for the Sith to accept and too self-absorbed and hateful for the Jedi.

Fishy Goat
Fishy Goat
3 years ago

@PeeVee, Moggie. *giggle*

@Weird Eddie “That’s what she said!” 😉

Gussie Jives
Gussie Jives
3 years ago

Ah, incels. The Gordian Knot that keeps on giving. I just find it hilarious that the last guy’s logic is so twisted that the very “lucky” people he’s describing as having “everything” are also described as “manginas”. Limited vocabulary? Freudian slip? Both?

You know, having been in that self-pitying “why can’t I get laaaaid?” headspace myself, a part of me would love to sit one of these guys down and take a proverbial knife to that Gordian Knot and just cut through all the rhetoric and finally get to where these guys admit: “Don’t really care about sex, I just want the social validation I’ve been taught comes with a hot woman on my arm.”

Then I’d say “Thank you”, followed by “And never use the internet again.”

Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
3 years ago

@PeeVee

they never struck me as being particularly concerned with anything, other than their desire to break whine about their celibate status

FTFY

PeeVee the (Timber-Rattling Booger Slut, But Noice) Sarcastic
PeeVee the (Timber-Rattling Booger Slut, But Noice) Sarcastic
3 years ago

dr ej,

I tried to use my harvested male gazes to pay for some groceries, because Chessman assured me they were currency, but the cashier insisted on a valid form of payment. I had to use my debit card.

Thank goodness I read today’s helpful post by Beta Men’s Uprising letting me know I could use them as some sort of S&H Green Stamps program.

Axe: Thank you. That does read much better!

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

Why exactly do these guys hate men so much?

i may be pearl clutching here, but their outright indifference to the plight of men and the amusement the seem to often take at men’s suffering is mindboggling.

I get that they have a pretty twisted attitude regarding women, but how do you get to be this twisted? Is there a school for it?

Could you clarify what you mean here? Because it kind of seems like you’re saying that hating men is somehow worse and more shocking than hating women.

Iseult The Idle
Iseult The Idle
3 years ago

#ImwithBadger

Bina
3 years ago

Again with this “harvesting the male gaze” drivel. I really do think they have an automatic message generator that churns this nonsense out for those lazy fucks, because it all reads like zero thought went into it. Or maybe they have a weekly mad-lib form, or something where they just plug in interchangeable terms for an AutoRant™. Then it’s cut, paste, spam it all over any site that seems even remotely critical of menzers, blather, rinse, repeat. The problem is, it gets boring even the first time it’s tried.

Anyway, I better get back out in the garden with my billhook and boleen. There’s stuff out there that’s ripe for harvesting, and it ain’t no male gaze…although it sure is tempting to cut these Beta Male Uprisings™ as if they were weeds too. Certainly they are nothing but a stinking nuisance.

Makroth - wild west firecracker window-smashing soap-averse unionized cowboy Jacobin from Hell
Makroth - wild west firecracker window-smashing soap-averse unionized cowboy Jacobin from Hell
3 years ago

JS
JS
3 years ago

Victorious Parasol
Victorious Parasol
3 years ago

My male gaze harvesting is done with the same basket in which I keep the seeds for the field in which I grow my fucks given.

msexceptiontotherule
msexceptiontotherule
3 years ago

Good lord can they not just wank? The assumption being that they have at least one functioning hand to type these whiny screeds, maybe take some time off from the whiny screed typing and handle their own junk?

Checkmate
Checkmate
3 years ago

I’m not even sure what they mean by “harvesting the male gaze.” When I read that, I imagine a field of eyeballs, but that’s just me.

Sheila Crosby
3 years ago

Women never have to risk or dirty their hands in order to get what they need to survive.

True dat. Women never change diapers/nappies. Women never, ever have to clean anything or risk sex work. I never took the risk of emigrating alone. No siree.

Ashara Payne
Ashara Payne
3 years ago

@WWTH not wishing to excuse misogyny at all, but maybe the idea is that these folks are well known misogynists but actually they’re not merely misogynists but they hate men too, in fact they even hate themselves? They are actually miserable misanthropes who’d rather bitch and whine online than do anything to improve themselves or their lives or anyone else’s lives or do anything productive with their time.

It definitely could have been worded better if the intent wasn’t as you describe.

Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
3 years ago

@PeeVee

Thank you. That does read much better!

Right!? I imagine, these assholes would be more angry at any woman who actually deigned to fuck em than at those who rejected em. Cos then they’d get fewer upvotes from the other swirling voids of self pity that constitute that subreddit

Incels are kinda fascinating in that they seem to derive a perverse form of value from their lack of any valuable traits. ‘Of course I can’t get a girlfriend, I’m a disaster of a human being… But it’s totes all those [slurs] fault!’ Muffugas will invent reasons to self deprecate. Fuckin tiny wrists? *raises hand, carpals collapse due to lack of support* Being from south Asia? That way, their ‘celibacy’ is due to women being discriminatory strumpets. And that makes them feel superior

@msexception

The assumption being that they have at least one functioning hand to type these whiny screeds, maybe take some time off from the whiny screed typing and handle their own junk?

The screed writing is their phallic self gratification…

HeinzDoof
HeinzDoof
3 years ago

You can just feel the smug coming off of Beta Uprising.

‘I have let the hate flow through me. Now I am powerful. Now the women will want me. I have become onto the universe like a god, a vengeful deity who will claim what is his…’

‘Billy, will you keep it down? You’re disturbing the neighbours. And for God’s sake will you mow the lawn already.’

‘Confounded woman, confusing me with some cuck…’

‘What did you say to me, William?’

‘Nothing mom.’

Imaginary Petal
Imaginary Petal
3 years ago

Umm. Is that guy’s email address something with n***af***ot?

Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
3 years ago

@Petal
Fuckin thank you! Thought I was imagining the worst possible answer for no reason. So you definitely see it?

Hey, @Futrelle, maybe do a better job erasing these things, huh? I dunno if it still counts as a dox if we hafta stare at it for a while, but come on…

PeeVee the (Timber-Rattling Booger Slut, But Noice) Sarcastic
PeeVee the (Timber-Rattling Booger Slut, But Noice) Sarcastic
3 years ago

Axe, that is why I enjoyed JS’s vid so much. It pretty much nails them down to a “T”.

IP: looks like it.

And I highly doubt that’s a real email addy.

A. Noyd
A. Noyd
3 years ago

msexceptiontotherule says:

Good lord can they not just wank?

Well, no. Because it’s not about having an orgasm. It’s not even about having sex. It’s about them degrading women with their genitals in order to boost their status among men—and the more attractive and “pure” the woman, the more status gained. To them, women are merely rungs on a ladder; the more they step on, the higher they climb. These guys are bitter because they can’t even get off the ground.

JS
JS
3 years ago

BTW the original Badger badger badger video was done entirely in Flash animation. It eventually lost sync, leading to music slowly not matching the animation. It was funnier that way.

It is one of the few Flash cartoons to have it’s own Wikipedia entry, and was originally released in 2003 (probably).

mcbender
3 years ago

Oh. My. Fucking. God. That last one. Bloody hell.

I know I don’t comment here often but I have to say something about that one. Never mind I’m at work and typing this on my phone, I think it’s necessary.

I am a man who has been sexually assaulted by a woman (and it happened when I was a virgin, too, for bonus points) and no goddamn it I was not fucking grateful and it took me years to come to terms with what happened.

It also didn’t help the entire thing took place in public, in a crowded bar where most of the patrons were egging her on and laughing at me for not being into it. Rape culture hurts men too, and I have no patience for this assumption that sex is a thing women ‘give’ men and which they should be grateful to obtain regardless of context. That’s not how this shit works.

I HAVE BEEN IN THE STUPID SCENARIO THESE ‘INCEL’ FUCKERS FANTASISE ABOUT AND IT IS NOT REMOTELY PLEASANT, THANKS EVER SO MUCH. If only there were the remotest chance they’d listen to me.

Never mind that I’m also depressive and struggled with suicidal ideation most of my life, so that comment triggers me on that level too. Nice chap.

Thanks for doing what you do, David.

Lea
Lea
3 years ago

I’m sorry those horrible people put you through that, mcbender.

PeeVee the (Timber-Rattling Booger Slut, But Noice) Sarcastic
PeeVee the (Timber-Rattling Booger Slut, But Noice) Sarcastic
3 years ago

I am so sorry that happened to you, mcbender.

Paradoxical Intention - Leader of the Deathclaw Damsels

@Lovely: Sure, I’m a slut and I have “taken” loads (back to the TMI with my previous kinks conversation), but I’m much more useful than just a fuck toy (though solely being a fuck toy is also one of my kinks under the right conditions, bow chika wow wow). I can make sammiches, I can clean, I can entertain people by playing video games (badly). I’m also a very cunning linguist at times. I have lots of other things about me that people find charming. The awesome sex is just a bonus.

But, here’s the deal schnookums: Not only will you never get to experience any of my services, I’m not going to take your load. Ever.

Because, at the end of the day, even a slut like me has standards.

(Also, did he just suggest that all man-sluts also bend over and take a load? I mean, not all man sluts are into being bottoms, fer fuck’s sake! [pun intended. ;)])

Bina
3 years ago

Women never have to risk or dirty their hands in order to get what they need to survive.

Says a guy who probably never dirtied any part of himself to grow a single plant for food.

Meanwhile, I just finished digging AND planting over half my garden today. And my arms were dirty up past the elbows when I came in for supper a few minutes ago. My face and neck are still smeared with dirt from where I swatted at flies and mosquitoes, too.

Fuck this snowflake dude and all his snowflake ilk. May they Go Their Own Way in silence and darkness, and may not even their own mothers give a shit.

mcbender
3 years ago

Thank you for the sympathy. I appreciate it.

What happened to me was in all honesty relatively mild and could have been much worse, especially compared to things I know other members of this commentariat have been through, so I do want to keep it in perspective. But even that incident affected me for a long time; I honestly think the mockery for daring not to enjoy it and trying to escape hurt me more than the actual nonconsensual touching, which may be one reason these ‘incel’ douchebags make me so angry.

(I should also probably state for the record that, while I identify as hetero-romantic demisexual, I am attracted to women, so they don’t get to discount my experience by attributing it to incompatible orientation. The involuntary bodily response only made things worse.)

GrumpyOld SocialJusticeMangina
GrumpyOld SocialJusticeMangina
3 years ago

“Women never have to risk or dirty their hands in order to get what they need to survive.”

Apparently he has never met a nurse or a nurse’s aid, a few dozen of whom have dirtied their hands helping to keep this old codger alive.

GrumpyOld SocialJusticeMangina
GrumpyOld SocialJusticeMangina
3 years ago

double post, sorry

Tosca, Chaos made Flesh
Tosca, Chaos made Flesh
3 years ago

…he starts going on about women “harvesting the male gaze” without permission to give themselves little tingles, which he thinks is basically the same as rape.

If he doesn’t want women to “harvest his gaze”, he could…you know…not ogle women. Problem solved.

Robert Walker-Smith
Robert Walker-Smith
3 years ago

msexceptiontotherule, my guess is that they regard masturbation as a sign of weakness. It would fit with the rest of their dysphoric approach to life.

They’re really dedicated to the idea that their suffering is uniquely terrible. They are to self-pity what Gaston is to self-regard.