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MGTOWs agree: Women are objectively ugly; only male lust makes them seem sorta hot

Area man discovers that women are secretly unattractive and vaginas are weird

Ladies! The jig is up! Men are discovering that even though some of you seem, like, really hot, you’re actually all quite unattractive!

In the Men Going Their Own Way subreddit, a few of the more enlightened souls have uncovered the secret truth about women: they’re basically weird and disgusting and only male sexual desire makes them seem sexy.

EndlessPontification 15 points 1 day ago A lot of mgtow men still have trouble understanding that women are vastly inferior to men in pretty much every way. Women aren't even attractive, it's the male sex-drive, cultural indoctrination, and makeup that makes them appear to be. Strip all of that away and shave her head? Her outside will match her inside, as she'll look like an autistic freak permalinkembedsavereportgive goldreply [–]LemonZeppelin27 5 points 1 day ago I have thought about this. Objectively, the vagina is really weird and boobs just exist. But the male sex drive makes them appear to be attractive. You hear blue pill guys saying "I love women" but I just don't love women. I'm not even sure if I like women. At best, I am ambivalent towards women. permalinkembedsaveparentreportgive goldreply [–]Muginns 3 points 1 day ago They are supposed to be a support to men, and a way to give birth and/or nurture children, but they have to go and fuck it all up.

I don’t want to alarm any of the fellas who might be reading this, but I have heard that most if not all females are also infested with cooties. Best stay away!

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weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

HorrorFan,

Welcome! If your name is accurate and you are a horror fan, please do comment more. I always like discussing horror movies and if you’ve been lurking, than you know we have off topic discussion, often about movies.

Lea
Lea
7 years ago

“Explain this obvious thing to me.”

No.

Chessman
Chessman
7 years ago

calling anyone they disagree with a “troll” has become a cliched leftist cyber bully tactic…it’s become so common and cliched…the only people who don’t see through it… are the self deluded bullies themselves… who actually consider themselves the “victim” of a different opinion and thus justified in their childish verbally abusive behavior toward others…

cornychips
cornychips
7 years ago

@hey chessman!

I’ve been very polite to you lately. Why no response?

IgnoreSandra
7 years ago

@Alan Robertshaw

heoretically they could be taking a break from their busy lifestyles

While that’s true and I agree completely that their misogyny is their entire life, the thing I was trying to imply is that if someone is a bigot, that devalues their work until it’s worth about nil.

Which I realize in retrospect isn’t reasonable.

OT: This reminds me of A Scandal in Bohemia. Sherlock Holmes takes the role of a villain, and is defeated because he underestimates Irene Adler due to his personal sexism. But whereas Sherlock Holmes, deductionist, deductive, and rational human being is able to identify his failing and chooses to address it, these people just pretend they didn’t fail.

@Troll

Nah, and I’m not wasting the words to prove you wrong when you and what you’re clumsily articulating already been disproven with elegance and finality.

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

Chessman,

You are free to leave. Then you won’t have to put up with the horrors of being called a troll anymore and we won’t have to put up with you anymore. It’s a win-win!

Alan Robertshaw
7 years ago

@ chessman

a different opinion

Correct me if I’m wrong, but haven’t your opinions included that the Portland murder victims were the bad guys rather than the murderer?

Do you think disagreeing with that view makes people cyber bullies?

Genuine question. Hope I’ve been polite in the way I asked. Apologies if not.

cornychips
cornychips
7 years ago

Welcome back orange tango whiskey person who is not a troll but uses sock puppets!

I’m so excited it’s you! I’ll be back after I read thru scented fucking hard chairs’ link. Hoo boy! 2015? You’ve been so diligent! We must catch up!

MrsObedMarsh
MrsObedMarsh
7 years ago

@Chessman

All you have to do is give a decent explanation of cyber-bullying and whether or not rape threats count and I will be satisfied. You claim you are interested in rational discussion, but you’re not addressing questions being put to you. Frankly I think that is very rude and thoughtless. Why won’t you answer a simple question?

(Not so fun being sealioned, isn’t it?)

brian
brian
7 years ago

@Chessman

Can you please explain exactly what “gaze-harvesting” is?
I’d love to hear it explained from your side.

Ellesar
Ellesar
7 years ago

harvest more male gaze in public

Personally I prefer to harvest male gays from the queer orchard and then we can all go clubbing.

Apologies for pathetic pun, but Chessman has had all the sensible answers from me I am prepared to give and now I am taking the piss all the way down.

dreemr
dreemr
7 years ago

@SFHC thanks a lot, now I have more WHTM threads to read and can continue to avoid housework! Win/win! 😀

cornychips
cornychips
7 years ago

Hey everybody! chessman is totally orange tango drinker pissy pissy troll boy that seems to usually get topics derailed on to male circumcision. He has been for a couple years now. He’s the worst sea lioning liar liar and just shits all over every thing he touches. There is zero reason to talk to him, he doesn’t even have good meltdowns or flounces. He disappears then goes to another thread and drops a small turd waiting for us to take the bait.

Chessman, you had your chance! But you see, some people (like SFHC) can recognize your predictable boring behavior. You could have had actually had an adult discussion with me, but you see, you’re a piece of shit whiny pissboy.

Does anybody remember other socks he’s used?

Oh yeah! Isn’t socking a bannable offence? Uh ohhhhh!

dreemr
dreemr
7 years ago

@cornychips & @SFHC

beyond all that, he’s just so dang b-o-o-o-o-r-r-r-r-r-i-n-g.

I went back to the old thread and YAWN.

Trollman, can’t you come up with anything more interesting? I mean this is 0/10 trollery, son.

Chessman
Chessman
7 years ago

“@Chessman

All you have to do is give a decent explanation of cyber-bullying and whether or not rape threats count and I will be satisfied. ”

bullying on the internet of course threatening is bullying are you satisfied

“Correct me if I’m wrong, but haven’t your opinions included that the Portland murder victims were the bad guys rather than the murderer?”

no – i think they all 4 were acting (irresponsibly) macho and it got one of them in the hospital 2 or them killed and one of them in jail… due to gynocratically programmed toxic male gender roles

Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
7 years ago

gynocratically programmed toxic male gender roles

I’m gonna need SO MUCH MORE pot.

MrsObedMarsh
MrsObedMarsh
7 years ago

bullying on the internet of course threatening is bullying are you satisfied

It’s incomplete. What exactly is bullying? Do rape threats count as bullying?

Chessman
Chessman
7 years ago

“Thou hast offended m’lady and now my gynocentric code of chivalry mandates that i must have a macho meltdown”

they were victims of their own gynocentrism and internalized misandry … basically men are treated as throwaway disposible objects put there for women’s use and they internalize that view of themselves… and in this case it got a couple guys hurt and killed… hence the “toxic” part of it

MrsMarsh:
I don’t know what is so particular about rape… any type of threat of violence is bullying…not necessarily just rape… but ok if you want to talk about rape yes its violent and bullying to threaten people with rape (wtf? seriously? it would be something along the lines of harassment or a terrorist threat even if it is credible)

IgnoreSandra
7 years ago

Still insisting the same crap from a couple days ago even though it’s been disproved absolutely? It’s almost like you don’t value being right at all, and insist solely on being very, very, wrong.

AsAboveSoBelow
AsAboveSoBelow
7 years ago

Protecting kids from belligerent drunks is toxic?
http://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/31118291/beavis-and-butthead-uhhh-okay.jpg

Alan Robertshaw
7 years ago

@ chessman

i think they all 4 were acting (irresponsibly) macho

I’m afraid I have to disagree with you there. The guys put themselves in harm’s way, but I don’t think that’s irresponsible. On the contrary I find it very admirable.

Let’s rewind a bit. Someone was abusing some young girls. Now no disrespect to our many talented young people on this site, but they’re just kids. And what he actually said was that all Muslims should be killed. One of the girls is a Muslim. Can you imagine how terrifying that must have been?

So some decent guys decided, correctly in my opinion, that this was unacceptable and attempted to assist in preventing any further harm to the girls. As we discussed before, sometimes a woman intervening can de-escalate a situation. But the perp in this case was demonstrating that he was happy to threaten women/girls. He displayed all the signs of snivelling cowardice so it was perhaps correct to believe he might back down in the face of some other guys.

That tragically wasn’t the case.

But I’ve not seen anyone, and especially any women, suggest that there’s a duty on men, and only men, to always risk themselves to assist women and only women

So I think your thesis isn’t backed up by evidence. But I’m more than happy to consider any specific challenges you may have to my analysis. So feel free to correct me if, and where, you can show I’m incorrect.

Kootiepatra
7 years ago

Catcalling is harassment because the catcaller is imposing unwanted contact on the victim. The only person who has power to make the interaction stop is the catcaller (or an outside authority literally hauling the harasser away). The victim cannot shut their ears off or force the catcaller to go away. To avoid getting catcalled, women’s only option is to basically never set foot in public again.

Catcalling is also an unambiguous action–one person shouts at another. It’s something that *happens*, that one person concretely does to another. There’s no inference of motive necessary.

“Gaze harvesting” is not harassment because a) it’s not a real thing, and b) if it *were* a real thing, the so-called “victim” 100% has the power to stop his gaze from being harvested. He just has to not stare. That’s it. He can go anywhere in public he likes with any number of staggeringly beautiful women present, and his own self-control is the only thing he needs to be perfectly safe.

“Gaze harvesting” is not an unambiguous action; a woman is simply existing and visible. She does not *do* anything to the man, nor does she force him to do anything. The very concept of “gaze harvesting” is 100% based on making a guess at the woman’s motive, regardless of anything she actually says or does.

And to the more recent post: Those girls (kids, minors, non-adults), did not “use” the men who stood up for them. One man took his own initiative to scream at a couple of teenagers who were minding their own business, and other men took their own initiative to try and get him to knock it off. It is baseless and unfair to say that either of those actions are in any way a result of being “used”. Adult men made their own choices and it was in no way the fault of underaged girls.

None of this is hard, dude.

PeeVee the (Timber-Rattling Booger Slut, But Noice) Sarcastic
PeeVee the (Timber-Rattling Booger Slut, But Noice) Sarcastic
7 years ago

Hey, Chessman? Victim blaming is really fucking reprehensible, and you have proven to be a cowardly asshole.

You need to leave. Go ejaculate your disgusting, polluted worldview elsewhere.

Horrorfan510
Horrorfan510
7 years ago

WWTH: Thanks for the welcome, and yes, I do love horror (even got myself a Suspiria t-shirt to go without DVD). I’ll keep an eye out for an appropriate open thread to do a more formal intro.

I’ve just been getting real tired of chessmans disingenuous shit.

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

It always cracks me up that misogynists can never decide whether feminists are trying to force men to be all macho and chivalrous and go to war for us or whether we’re trying to feminism men with our evil government assistance programs and feelings talk and disapproval of rape culture (male sexuality is rapey according to them).