MGTOW Friday continues with this lovely meme, found in the Men Going Their Own Way subreddit.
You’ll be happy to learn that most of the MGTOWs commenting on the meme do in fact believe that women are human, and possibly even deserving of some of the same rights as men.
“Women are human and have certain human rights,” says someone calling himself Whiskeybandit67. “They are assholes, but human.”
Ayy-Mayy-ZoSuperwoah, meanwhile, thinks it’s “twisted” to say that women aren’t human.
Yeah women don’t really contribute much value to humanity, but that doesn’t make them less than human. Whoever wrote this is deranged. Deprive them of the right to vote maybe, and maybe to work some jobs, in other words, strip some circumstantial privileges, but to strip them of human rights? Like what, exactly?
I guess this is what passes for a voice of reason on the MGTOW subreddit, huh?
All my love to the people of London.
@chessshit, how about when you asked what was misogynistic about thinking of women as body parts and nothing else? that was pretty fucking anti-woman.
Someone called for adult food?
https://thehairpin.com/how-to-feel-competent-by-dumping-a-lot-of-stuff-in-a-bowl-f691ced54707
ummm, no… i ASKED how is that misogynist… asking a question isn’t a statement… try again…
even asking the question is misogynist, shitfart.
It takes a misogynist to even consider that a question that needs to be asked. Since the right answer is blatantly obvious.
lol remember when you wrote ‘females’. I do! You just keep running in circles
CW: Transphobia, homophobia, racism
@Sandra
Okay, so, like, I first began to question my gender identity when I was about 13 or so, and began hanging out in transgender communities online then. That was back in 2003, so I have had exposure to a great deal of transpeople before the mainstream media suddenly found out about us in 2015.
The toxic transwomen I encountered are the primary reason I was confused about myself for a while, because of all the nonsensical shit they would say.
You aren’t a reeeeeeeeal lady unless you like traditionally feminine stuff and want to marry a man and knit stuff and cook and clean and make quilts.
You aren’t a reeeeeeeeal lady until you get yourself snipped. No reeeeeal ladies wants to have a dick.
Reeeeeeal ladies pass all the time, 100%.
There’s the white transwomen who say shit like, “I don’t fuck n-words. They’re all smelly subhumans.”
And so on. I went through this for about the better part of ten or twelve years until more recently the divides in the community began to appear, and we all found out that you were allowed to like nonfeminine stuff and keep your dick and not erase your entire identity to conform to their ideals, and, therefore, I realized that I was, actually transgender.
It’s funny, really, because when Caitlyn Jenner hit the scene and revealed to the world that (white) transwomen can be completely shitty, I was laughing and thinking “I knew soooooooo many transwomen like her from back in the day; they’re the primary reason I had so many goddamn stupid misconceptions about being trans.”
Chesswoman, I know of a person who posts exactly like you, on another site; he has taken on the persona of being transracialgenderfluid, to fuck with everybody. You sound *exactly* like him.
He came in, sealioned the FUCK out of everyone, read the comments to find out how people identified, and then made up a whole bio, exactly like you did, and then used this bio to portray a victim, all after he pissed everyone off so much that they had not one fuck to give for his “plight.”
So spare me your bullshit. You’ve not been honest with your intent from the fucking get-go.
And explain how a transgender woman join MGTOW, anyhow??? What the fuck.
Do you think we’ve all forgotten your male gaze harvesting bullshit??
Fuck OFF.
Now I’m going to find another insult generator; I’ve used up all of the Luther insults because you fucking won’t go your own way.
Well this topic has exploded! Haven’t caught up yet but you’ll be glad to know that I’ve banned Chessman. (Well, Chessman won’t be glad but too bad.) Thanks to those who sent me notes!
@PeeVee
I think we could call Blair White an example of an MGTOW transwoman.
@Lord David of the Mammoth
May I ask a quick question?
Have you considered getting us a Discord channel so we can reach you quickly for this sort of thing?
ETA:
Oh, geeeeeeeeeeez, you guys.
I just remembered something.
You want misogynistic transwomen?
Let me just introduce you to these transladies who say shit like, “I will fuck your man so much harder that he’ll leave your female cisgendered ass, sweaty. :)”
‘Cause I know them from back in the day.
@Francesca
Ugh. Fucking white supremacist racist jackasses.
I don’t really know how else to respond to that, except that you’re strong and stuff for getting through it okay.
Citation needed.
Because I know a lot of cis women who I or others have taken for men at one point or another. Also, see: Women who disguise themselves as men to go to war.
RE: Fucking your man so hard he’ll leave your cisgendered female ass
HOLY FUCK THAT IS MISOGYNY. Yeah. It makes sense in retrospect. Changing your gender wouldn’t magically fix your personal bigotry. Ugh.
Thanks, David. Have fun catching up, for certain definitions of “fun”.
http://gph.is/2pz6zdO
Ugh, London.
I’ll be zero percent surprised if we learn that one of the people shot by police was innocent, too, given prior history.
@Sandra
Thank you. Honestly, the toxic transwomen who were all like, “you can’t be trans unless you do x, y, and z, oh, and by the way, I don’t fuck black people” are probably 20% of the reason why I am clinically depressed now.
They inadvertently caused me a lot of harm with their ideology of how you aren’t a real lady unless you do it up like them.
So, like, you really haven’t spent a lot of time with other transladies prior to now?
You are really lucky to have encountered nice ladies like myself and Dali. I want to hug you and protect you from being attacked by toxic transwomen. I’m frightened for you now, but, perhaps, at least now that I’ve warned you, you will be capable of defending yourself from them.
Fran,
Yeah, forgot about her, and you just posted a vid with her. But is she MGTOW, or does she lean more towards MRA/Anti-feminist/Anti-SJW?
I don’t care to find out, actually. All of this shit nauseates the fuck out of me.
(I don’t mean transfolk. I mean the bigotry against them. I want everybody to be free just to BE!)
Wow. By that extremely narrow view, a good 30-50% of us regular ol’ cis-het women aren’t reeeeeeeal ladeeees either.
A (cis-het woman) friend and I were playing around many years ago with cross-dressing(? not sure of the correct term) (in private) due to purchasing some fake mustaches in a costume shop, and just because we did dumb things and had time on our hands and wondered about it. The toughest part for us was figuring out how to walk as men. Even without a lot “up top”, you become very aware of just how much you jiggle when you’re trying not to.
I have to confess, though, I’ve known far more trans men IRL than trans women, and they always seemed to “pass” to my eyes, but I’m probably not the best judge.
*sigh* And here I was thinking Chessy would have improved her logic and rhetoric by now. Nope, nope, nope, nope.
I had actually written up a rebuttal to the 4 links she posted, but… decided it wasn’t worth it when I realized one was opinion piece from Fox News correspondent, and another was a marketing website from a private company helping sign up for government “Woman owned business” status.
This Citation is better “proof” than those links
http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Incredibly-Rusty-Chevrolet-Citation-Picture-courtesy-of-Murilee-Martin-610×458.jpg
@PeeVee
Racist, transphobic, misogynistic transfolk make ME nauseous, personally, partially because they ruin it for nice transladies like me.
I don’t want to keep my dick because I intend to steal all the mans of all the cis ladies. I just like it. It’s very nice.
I would like be to a hot, sexy girl with a big cock. I’m not here to compete against cisladies and attack them and take their mans with my superior translady body.
Also, these transladies harm other transladies with their ridiculous “BUT ARE YOU A REAL WOMAN, SWEATY? :)” gatekeeping nonsense.
CN: Transphobia, mention of sexual assault
@Francesca
The first trans person I met was a trans man. In my real life, I have yet to meet any other trans women that I’m aware of. I also haven’t sought out any communities of trans people on the internet or advice from trans people on the internet, which is probably the source of some of my problems.
I mostly read dry medical stuff discussing the different surgeries and options and hormones and giving me hints at the prices, and then I made a set of decisions about how far I wanted to go versus how far I could afford to go or see myself managing to afford in the future. I’d clean forgotten to settle on a new name, but I found the perfect one in greek mythology: The woman who is always right but no one ever listens to.
I did, however, look up articles by trans women on the “trans panic” thing, and that, combined with the rapes I’d survived when people assumed I was a cis man, convinced me to completely swear off men forever.
There’ve been a set of people in my real life who treat me with disrespect over this, and I’ve won every confrontation with them.
I have a set of nonbinary friends who have been amazing at talking me through things. They’ve given me good advice for when I have to present myself as not me. And generally helped make this easier.
I’m currently gearing up for a job. It’s industrial type work, pay is decent but not great. I applied for it under my dead name, and I intend to work it under my dead name. I don’t intend to deal with transphobic harassment on a facility floor where 2-ton forklifts roam.
Don’t worry about me too much <3
My mind is a sea of shifting fragments I'm working on putting back together. Pressure from the outside keeps rearranging the fragments or shattering some of them, but I'm me. I've held on for more than a decade at this point. Anything that comes from my head, I'll survive.
Including the damned dysphoria, ugh.
@Dreemr
Oh, I’m sure the contingent of misogynist transladies would say that. They would actually do that. I guarantee you 100% they would say it, and then say that THIS is why Transwomen are better than ugly cisfemales, and how they could suck a man’s dick so fucking hard he would come in ten seconds, and that this is why they get all the men from cisfemales.
@Francesca
RE: Sucking dick
My impression from experience is that cumming in ten seconds is not really a good experience. So…I wonder if any of those transwomen have actually sucked a dick in a way their partner approves of?
Hmm. Whatever. In any event, there’s nothing wrong with being a girl with a dick.
Fran,
I have never understood the intense interest in what people pack in the pants, and the judgements lodged against them, depending on what lies below.
I mean, I really don’t care.
I don’t care is a man has a gigantic cock.
I don’t care if a woman has a gigantic cock. (I don’t care if they have medium or small ones, either.)
I don’t care if a man has a vagina.
I don’t care if a woman has a vagina.
This real man and real woman bullshit is why there is such turmoil going on with the gender roles…it’s utterly absurd.
I just would like people to treat everyone with the dignity and respect they, themselves would like. The Golden Rule, as it were.
Sigh. So exhausting.
All this talk of huge cocks.
http://img.stomp.com.sg/s3fs-public/images/2016/12/trump_0.jpg